Yea, no thanks.

[dasmb]

However, let's be honest. How many people want to wear this thing on their head instead of watching their 65" OLED TV (or bigger for the price of this thing)? Who wants to take this on a trip instead of a trusty MacBook Pro that has 16 hours of battery life? Who wants to use this thing to write forum posts? Who wants to use this thing to do much of anything? Not me.

I agree, the showcased entertainment and communications use cases are somewhat uncompelling at present. Daring Fireball has me convinced that the sports use case could be incredible for superfans (who are already spending money on their teams -- Yankees season tickets start around $3500 for nosebleed seats).

The use case for Reality OS, however, is totally compelling to me. My job is a constant pull and tug between the need for more screen real estate and the need for portability. Effectively infinite screen real estate in a portable form factor is something I cannot buy for any amount of money.

And that's who's going to buy this thing: people who need a balance of portability, large workspaces with deep focus, and enthusiasts with money who are convinced they need it too. It'll be a similar market size to full frame DSLRs ten years ago, and similarly this will drive the technology to trickle down to whatever we use for phones in 2030.

 

[Ryan1524]

I wonder how many of the negative opinions are due to generational gap. I'm very much looking forward to trying this and using it.

If you look across multiple gens, there are many things that makes no sense between them. And I can see how an older generation would not want something like this.

 

[ouruniverse06131986]

I wouldn’t get it if was 1K.
Not become I think it’s bad but because I just wouldn’t use it enough to justify even 1K.

New iPhones always get my attention because I use it everyday all day long.

I’m definitely intrigued by the technology of the AVP. Every time I see AVP I think Alien Versus Predator.

RIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGHHTT.

 

[gorkt]

I think there will be a generation gap in that older adults tend to be more susceptible to motion sickness.

 

[AsarTheGod]

Can’t wait to see people on the road driving with these 😆

 

[jent]

This post will be looked back at in five-plus years as a funny look at how people were skeptics after the announcement, much like how people point to critiques of the original iPod and iPhone after their announcement but before their release. I thought a lot of Apple products were overhyped but in general they become cultural icons. Companies have tried out VR/AR headsets and I wouldn't be surprised if Apple is the first one to get it right.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

I wonder how many of the negative opinions are due to generational gap. I'm very much looking forward to trying this and using it.

If you look across multiple gens, there are many things that makes no sense between them. And I can see how an older generation would not want something like this.

Nah. I am older generation and absolutely see the value in this. Lack of vision crosses all generations...

 

[dasmb]

This post will be looked back at in five-plus years as a funny look at how people were skeptics after the announcement, much like how people point to critiques of the original iPod and iPhone after their announcement but before their release. I thought a lot of Apple products were overhyped but in general they become cultural icons. Companies have tried out VR/AR headsets and I wouldn't be surprised if Apple is the first one to get it right.

Or they'll be 100% right, and the Vision Pro will have flopped. Like the Hi-fi flopped, like the Newton flopped.

Not every great idea succeeds, but gosh, if anything in XR is likely to succeed it's this. This is the first product in the space that doesn't look like a glorified science fair project.

(And IMO, only just barely)

 

[roland.g]

The biggest fail I see here is that they applied the same Apple formula that they use on the phone and the iPad and the Mac. This is designed to be a single user item. It doesn't appear to be something you get and your significant other can also use it. The fit is personal, it uses your retina to unlock it. Maybe it has the capacity for more than one user, but that is not the Apple way. And $3,500 per person is just ridiculous. I will say that the 2025 or 2026 Apple Vision at $1,999 will be a bit more interesting. Will they keep all the features and just change the quality of build/materials, or will the VP2 come out and like the iPhone model, they will put the gen1 hardware into the non-Pro release.

 

[Lioness~]

It will definitely be a cash-cow for Apple. Enough many will bite on these.
No interest myself though.

As far as I read briefly, it have 1 user account, and a guest account that you seem to need to set up new every time, if I got it right from below article. But none knows exactly how this will work yet, as they are not out yet. But considering Apple's intention to make stockholders happy, I doubt that they are made for 2 people to use together at different times.

Apple Vision Pro has a two user-account limit: Yours and a guest

It sort of supports multiple users—but they'll need to bring their own lenses.

www.macworld.com

People can't even hug properly if waring these together in the sofa watching a movie.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

This post will be looked back at in five-plus years as a funny look at how people were skeptics after the announcement, much like how people point to critiques of the original iPod and iPhone after their announcement but before their release. I thought a lot of Apple products were overhyped but in general they become cultural icons. Companies have tried out VR/AR headsets and I wouldn't be surprised if Apple is the first one to get it right.

The skeptics shouldn’t feel embarrassed if they’ve got it all wrong though. Life is too short to be regretful over stuff like that. I was sceptical the AirPods Max would dominate the headphone market and so far I was proven right despite being told otherwise 2 years ago.

 

[matrix07]

How many hours do you spend on a plane each year?I'd rather wait till I get home and use that 55" screen.

55” is too small. My home has 80+” and i still like to have this goggle because the screen size inside it will be unlimited.
if it’s around $1,000-1,300 I’ll buy it in a heartbeat.

 

[Golf7-R]

55” is too small. My home has 80+” and i still like to have this goggle because the screen size inside it will be unlimited.
if it’s around $1,000-1,300 I’ll buy it in a heartbeat.

I just upgraded to a 77 inch OLED TV. Looks awesome but it is most certainly the last TV I have bought in my life! The Vision Pro (its successors) will kill most displays in the future.

 

[neuropsychguy]

"How many people want to wear this thing on their head instead of watching their 65" OLED TV (or bigger for the price of this thing)?"

If it's comfortable to wear for a few hours, I would. I don't have an OLED TV in any case.

"Who wants to take this on a trip instead of a trusty MacBook Pro that has 16 hours of battery life?"

I might. I don't go on many work trips. When I do, I'm mostly using my computer for random little things. Many of those I can do on my phone or iPad. This could replace my iPad.

"Who wants to use this thing to write forum posts?"

What's wrong with that? It looks like you can do speech to text (which generally works well for me) or use a virtual or real keyboard.

"Who wants to use this thing to do much of anything?"

If I had one, I'd use it. I'd only get one if I could wear it for hours comfortably though.

I'm not going to buy one but the more I've read about it from various people who were able to try it out, the more interested I am in it.

 

[neuropsychguy]

like the Newton flopped.

True, the Newton "flopped" but it became the iPhone and iPad so it was eventually successful.

 

[neuropsychguy]

The biggest fail I see here is that they applied the same Apple formula that they use on the phone and the iPad and the Mac. This is designed to be a single user item. It doesn't appear to be something you get and your significant other can also use it. The fit is personal, it uses your retina to unlock it. Maybe it has the capacity for more than one user, but that is not the Apple way. And $3,500 per person is just ridiculous. I will say that the 2025 or 2026 Apple Vision at $1,999 will be a bit more interesting. Will they keep all the features and just change the quality of build/materials, or will the VP2 come out and like the iPhone model, they will put the gen1 hardware into the non-Pro release.

Since when is the Mac single user? iPhones and iPads are but Macs do multiple users extremely well.

 

[huge_apple_fangirl]

True, the Newton "flopped" but it became the iPhone and iPad so it was eventually successful.

So maybe this will flop but in 10 years the AR glasses will be a big hit?

 

[neuropsychguy]

So maybe this will flop but in 10 years the AR glasses will be a big hit?

That’s a strong possibility. This is a really nice tech demo product setting the stage for what will come. I think this is one of the most important new tech products since the iPhone. I could be wrong but I wouldn’t be against Apple with this and the subsequent products.

 

[dasmb]

True, the Newton "flopped" but it became the iPhone and iPad so it was eventually successful.

The Newton did not "become the iPhone." Aside from the 9 year separation between the cancellation of Newton and introduction of the iPhone, I've used a Newton. These devices share no software, hardware or design similarities at all beyond the rough size of the screen.

 

[profcutter]

The Newton did not "become the iPhone." Aside from the 9 year separation between the cancellation of Newton and introduction of the iPhone, I've used a Newton. These devices share no software, hardware or design similarities at all beyond the rough size of the screen.

And hey hey, let’s not forget the Motorola Rokr! Awesome usb 1 speeds, proprietary interface. Buggy as all get out.

 

[E.Lizardo]

Okay, listen, I respect the work that went into this. I can also respect this is a kind of beta hardware for something that might be practical one day in the future. Apple can totally afford to play around with ideas. So, I'm not knocking them for working on this.

However, let's be honest. How many people want to wear this thing on their head instead of watching their 65" OLED TV (or bigger for the price of this thing)? Who wants to take this on a trip instead of a trusty MacBook Pro that has 16 hours of battery life? Who wants to use this thing to write forum posts? Who wants to use this thing to do much of anything? Not me.

In fact there is only one thing I can see this being useful for given the battery life, but they aren't going to market it for that.

Wow you did an awesome job wiping out those straw men! Congratulations!

 

[E.Lizardo]

Who wants to watch tv on a plane. I just pop some pain killers and pass out.

I'd rather watch TV than abuse drugs.

 

[E.Lizardo]

I'm sure there's peeps that have interest in these things, I have totally none.

THANK YOU!!! I've been on pins and needles all week wondering wether Lioness was interested in there things.

 

[dasmb]

And hey hey, let’s not forget the Motorola Rokr! Awesome usb 1 speeds, proprietary interface. Buggy as all get out.

The Rokr was an embarrassment. I'd call it a Motorolla product, but unlike the Newton it directly influenced the iPhone: "Don't make it anything like the Rokr."

 

[Regbial]

But 3D is COOL now dude!! Apple said so!!1!