The whole advert about doing things and having experiences without leaving the house really bothered me. As if that should be a goal.
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Not enough studies have been done on impacts to vision (Meta says you should be taking breaks every 20 minutes) or psychological studies. With escapism and addiction, many people turn to drugs, sex, video games, etc. to deal with difficult times. When you can make reality be whatever you want it to be, it could very well cause people to become more antisocial and more recluse in their lives.
This is not the hopeful future I wanted as a kid.
So I’m not the only one that was freaking out (not in a good way) when they were demoing this??
“Capture your kids birthday party so you can relive the moment like you’re there in 3D” as daddy approaches the kids with a computer strapped to his face
I really do not know how to feel about this product but it’s mostly negative feelings
“Capture your kids birthday party so you can relive the moment like you’re there in 3D” as daddy approaches the kids with a computer strapped to his face
I really do not know how to feel about this product but it’s mostly negative feelings
yknow, your opinion is your opinion—I still open up the comments on the original iPod announcement just for fun sometimes—imo, I would rather wear this than spend however much on a gigantic OLED. 1) I don’t have the space for it 2) I don’t have the capital for it and this can do so much more. battery life? yeah, it’s very first-gen, to put it lightly—let’s just be thankful they didn’t make the battery some ungodly eyesore that has to be worn by the hip. (I did find the copy on the design section of their page for this—“Designed by Apple.”—hilarious, because it’s all that needs to be said)
why not use this for browsing when it has native keyboard/trackpad support? when it can mirror your ever-so-trusty MacBook in AR? that battery’s got some serious juice, surely it can be tapped into to power this.
and for the love of god, this thing will make flights so much less stressful. that was such an intentional point in their first ad that they unveiled. being able to project a 3D movie with an immersive background behind it? please. only Apple.
I already said in another thread that the first-gen isn’t for me, but this is one of the greatest products Apple has ever created and it deserves the most benefit of the doubt possible. of course it will become cheaper down the line—ffs, a VCR cost the same amount as the original iPhone when they came out decades ago—and more consumers will buy into it. right now, I see this as a product mainly for developers and the most diehard Apple enthusiasts—I think Apple knows that too, especially with the price tag, and they’re fine with it. they’re paving the way for the future, rather than getting straight to it. such is life.
It’s like how William Gibson once said, he was explaining Cyberpunk and Neuromancer to some tech execs in the late 80s, talking about it as a horrible dystopia, and the execs were so excited about it as a possibility to work towards. He was pretty disgusted by that.
man, I really hope people don’t buy into this dystopian trope. does anyone think it’s a coincidence that Apple implemented some new mental health features along with the announcement of Vision Pro?
they don’t want people strapped to this thing all day every day. they want people using it for its useful purposes—entertainment, enhanced videoconferencing, 3D imaging (I really think almost everyone on this forum is underestimating the impact of that on its own right now), and an improved computing experience using nothing but your fingers, eyes, and voice (keyboard/trackpad when necessary for more finite tasks). if you’re spending all day on it, there are serious other issues that need to be addressed—not the existence of this product. those who are not well have fixated on home hobbies for decades, if not centuries (whether it be trading cards, video games, or the like). it’s clear Apple wants to provide a counterbalance by allowing people to document their mental health.
(btw, since I’ve already spilled so many intimate details of my life talking about this product [so excited to get doxxed one day], I’m saying this as someone in recovery—believe me, I know a thing or two about addiction.)
Ok, that’s it. I still haven’t bought an Apple Watch either, or had any interest whatsoever in them.
Same feeling for this.
Just because I love a lot of Apple products doesn’t mean all of it is something I like or need.
No problem to me at all.
That’s a pretty optimistic view of capitalism. Apple wants to move units. Period. If it comes at the expense of mental health, it’s just business. It’s not just apple, it’s what companies are in business for.
Assume the OLED optics are phenomenal. Like absolutely blow you away clarity, color, depth, etc. If Apple can achieve that, I believe they will sell. They will be amazing for movies, photos, some productivity, perhaps games.
OLED is the right display tech. It simply is better than everything else right now. I can see using these to really immerse yourself in movies, instructional videos, and work apps. Also, I like the idea of having a personal set of best-in-class OLED optics. You can have your own personal theater — without having to spend and build an entertainment room with expensive projectors and screens, audio system, theater seating, etc. And you can take them with you.
It’s a worthy alternative to what we do now, which is spend significant sums on fixed displays in living areas, home offices, and dens.
Who is William Gibson, and why is what they said valuable in context? Genuine curiosity. 🙏🏼
A VCR allowed people to do something they couldn’t do before: watch movies at home or record/timeshift TV shows to watch whenever you want.
What does this do that you can’t already do?
I respect you opinion, I just don’t see this as groundbreaking. I bought a Quest 2 a couple of years ago and after a month, it got old. I thought I would have meetings using it and whiteboard and have all these amazing experiences. What wound up happening was I was doing the same things more awkwardly.
Watching a movie on a 300 inch screen was cool, but it’s annoying wearing it for so long and it’s such a lonely experience. Doing things with friends is fun because of the shared experience. This is a singluar experience that only you can see. And the only way you can interact with anything is through a screen. It doesn’t bring people together. And the video conferencing experience they showed…what do others see? You with a headset on? Nothing at all?
Let’s give it time, but this is like a Newton to me.
of course they want to move units, I’m never here to deny that—they are a trillion-dollar company. how do they move them though…? by providing the best experience to remember what matters.
think about the cameras in iPhones. they went from being nearly flip-phone quality to being some of the best cameras in the portable market. some of the most important memories in my life have been captured by iPhone cameras—either by myself, or others.
this product, literally, brings a whole new dimension to that. and I think it’s amazing. call me a filthy consumerist, my brother goofs on me all the time for it, but 🤷♂️ can’t help it when a company consistently puts out such good products (let’s discount the 12” MacBook for a second…I was so disappointed when their new VP of ID didn’t say “aluminum” the same 😂)
I didn’t buy the original iPod in 2001 but damn it was cool and I wanted one. I could tell it was a great way to have music on the go. I got a click wheel one later.
I didn’t buy the original iPhone in 2007 but damn it was cool and I wanted one. I knew exactly what I’d use it for and I bought a 3G the next year
I didn’t buy the original Apple Watch but damn it was cool and I wanted one. I knew it would be great with AirPods and running. I bought a used Series 3 a couple years later a new Series 6.
I can tell there’s a lot of tech in the Vision Pro but I just don’t see what problem it’s solving or anything I would want it for. And I really didn’t see anything that would get me to spend $3500 and strap goggles to my face for 2 hours at a time.
I didn’t buy the original iPhone in 2007 but damn it was cool and I wanted one. I knew exactly what I’d use it for and I bought a 3G the next year
I didn’t buy the original Apple Watch but damn it was cool and I wanted one. I knew it would be great with AirPods and running. I bought a used Series 3 a couple years later a new Series 6.
I can tell there’s a lot of tech in the Vision Pro but I just don’t see what problem it’s solving or anything I would want it for. And I really didn’t see anything that would get me to spend $3500 and strap goggles to my face for 2 hours at a time.
The hours I do spend on a plane are some of my most miserable. So I’m willing to spend a premium in order to make them more enjoyable.
Just on flying. There is no way airlines will allow this unit to be used for taxi, take-off and landing. Similar to how some airlines ask for NC headphones to be removed during those stages. They can't and won't permit passengers to be oblivious to possible safety instructions due to emergencies etc, when wearing these devices.
I can see the positive uses of this headset. This of architects who can now bring their designs say, for a new wing of a building, to life by using this headset, looking at the actual space and filling it with the AR design.
Or other designers or civil engineers using these headsets to look at projects and possibilities in a whole new way. Or film directors or other creators who will defonitely use these and will love the possibilities it opens up.
It's ordinary consumers that the questions are directed at with this product.
I can see the positive uses of this headset. This of architects who can now bring their designs say, for a new wing of a building, to life by using this headset, looking at the actual space and filling it with the AR design.
Or other designers or civil engineers using these headsets to look at projects and possibilities in a whole new way. Or film directors or other creators who will defonitely use these and will love the possibilities it opens up.
It's ordinary consumers that the questions are directed at with this product.
What's the point of anything? I'm just expressive my opinion. I think they represent amazing tech which unfortunately is totally impractical. I admitted that in the future the idea may work out.
You waited 20 years for this product but 3500 is too expensive? So confused...
Yea, won't be buying one. Maybe in 10 years when they are like a pair of glasses. But it'll depend on what the laptops are like at that time. You can't compare the 10 years in the future glasses vision pro with a laptop of today.
Maybe. If it got very thin. But it's still just not quite what I'd want I don't think.
1. I'd have to have a keyboard. Once I have a keyboard, might as well have a laptop. Laptop will always have more power and better battery life due to the form factor. So, why not just get a laptop? I mean having a bigger virtual screen is nice I guess but honestly I don't often feel like I need a bigger screen.
2. With a laptop I can share what I'm doing with someone else without taking my glasses off. And I wear corrected lenses. So am I going to bring these pro glasses and my normal glasses? Just seems annoying. If I lose my glasses, I'm totally screwed too.
100% agree
Sometimes I'm not sure folks in and outside these companies are taking a longer view on what is a healthy direction to be pushing forward towards.
Everyone laying about by themselves with Scuba VR/AR on all day ... never going anywhere ... is just an immense turn off to me.
As I've gotten older and older, I've become so much more aware how much happier I am doing things in person and outside ... real direct in person human and nature interaction.
Naturally this is the same day they've announced the Scuba Mask also..
This is bigger than Apple. This is the direction the world is going in. AR, Web 3.0, imagine virtually walking down a virtual mall, shopping and picking things up, purchasing things as if you were there in person, all to have it seamlessly shipped to your house by drone.
I'm excited, there will be a new gold rush for apps and services done via AR headsets like this one, similar to what we saw with phone applications with the iPhone.
I missed out on development for the iPhone, i won't be missing out on the development for AR.
I'm excited, there will be a new gold rush for apps and services done via AR headsets like this one, similar to what we saw with phone applications with the iPhone.
I missed out on development for the iPhone, i won't be missing out on the development for AR.
Sounds inhuman and horrendous
Dear Lord above, I hope not. That sounds awful. Besides, this thing wasn’t even a VR headset. It was an AR headset. The rush will be when they can make a virtual world feel realistic. This thing makes the real world try to feel virtual.
And everyone wanting it for flights? Wait until every person moving near you on the plane causes your apps to be transparent and you see them. And then they see you making eye contact with them. And now they want to talk to you.
I immediately thought of how this is start of William Gibson’s stories becoming real. The first “deck” of the 21st century hahahaha
Statistically speaking, there are a ton of products that are being sold that you most likely don’t need. So?
I also don’t need this. But I want it.