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Yea, no thanks.

Again it’s a very interesting device. But it’s something I wouldn’t use all of the time.
Watching some movies and big sporting events Super Bowl etc where I know I’m going to have my full attention on the content.

For $3500 I would have to use the device quite frequently to justify the purchase and I’m not sure I would want to wear it for hours on end.
The concept and the technology is great in my opinion and with each version it will get better.
 
Who doesn't put 100% of their attention on a movie or tv show when watching it?

Otherwise there is no point in watching it in my opinion.
 
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Stevenyo said:
Who? Me. I’ve been waiting 20 years for decent HMD tech to come out. I bought my “last” TV 9 years ago, hoping I’d never have to buy another. I’ve bought large laptops for 20 years, fighting with them being too large for travel and too small for work the entire time. I’ve spent 15 years squinting at tiny phone screens. And now the end is finally in sight. Any size screen wherever I am, for any task I’m doing? That’s always been the dream. $3500 is super steep, but it’s still less than the cost of devices this replaces once the execution is there.
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Seems like you’re gonna have to keep waiting though, because the apps are just not there. It doesn’t run Mac apps, so that means you’re limited to iPad level productivity.
 
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Honestly it kinda freaks me out if things like this catch on. People are already glued to their phones/devices as it is. This is literally gluing a device to you. I can imagine a couple sitting on a couch watching a movie "together" with these on, while one person is on the side glancing at their IG feed or whatever else. Not that people don't already do that to some degree, but this seems somehow even less personal.

I'm much more excited about the one Google showed off before that looked like normal glasses where you could see real-time translations and turn-by-turn navigation. Things that actually help us stay connected to the world instead of peering away from it to look at our phones. Of course, Google being the king of vaporware, will probably never see the light of day.
 
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max2 said:
Who doesn't put 100% of their attention on a movie or tv show when watching it?

Otherwise there is no point in watching it in my opinion.
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? I’d say 95% of the time, I don’t. The only time a movie or tv show gets that much of my full attention is the first time I watch it. But I will play movies and tv shows in the background while I work all the time, instead of listening to music which I find more distracting.
 
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? I’d say 95% of the time, I don’t. The only time a movie or tv show gets that much of my full attention is the first time I watch it. But I will play movies and tv shows in the background while I work all the time, instead of listening to music which I find more distracting.
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Yes exactly. I watch all movies and tv shows when I first see them with 100% attention span.

I rarely rewatch anything. Though I can see doing that with rewatching only.
 
RinkDinkus said:
So I’m not the only one that was freaking out (not in a good way) when they were demoing this??

“Capture your kids birthday party so you can relive the moment like you’re there in 3D” as daddy approaches the kids with a computer strapped to his face

I really do not know how to feel about this product but it’s mostly negative feelings
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People felt the same way about camcorders…
 
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pendragon1984 said:
Okay, listen, I respect the work that went into this. I can also respect this is a kind of beta hardware for something that might be practical one day in the future. Apple can totally afford to play around with ideas. So, I'm not knocking them for working on this.

However, let's be honest. How many people want to wear this thing on their head instead of watching their 65" OLED TV (or bigger for the price of this thing)? Who wants to take this on a trip instead of a trusty MacBook Pro that has 16 hours of battery life? Who wants to use this thing to write forum posts? Who wants to use this thing to do much of anything? Not me.

In fact there is only one thing I can see this being useful for given the battery life, but they aren't going to market it for that.
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I see this as gaming hardware.
 
waterfta said:
Honestly it kinda freaks me out if things like this catch on. People are already glued to their phones/devices as it is. This is literally gluing a device to you. I can imagine a couple sitting on a couch watching a movie "together" with these on, while one person is on the side glancing at their IG feed or whatever else. Not that people don't already do that to some degree, but this seems somehow even less personal.

I'm much more excited about the one Google showed off before that looked like normal glasses where you could see real-time translations and turn-by-turn navigation. Things that actually help us stay connected to the world instead of peering away from it to look at our phones. Of course, Google being the king of vaporware, will probably never see the light of day.
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We already do this when we go to the movie theater or our home movie theater. If the movie is really good.
 
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Nilay with some enthusiasm for the Scuba mask
(It's still searching for a purpose though, he admits)

That said - this is also the guy that can't stop pumping crypto and NFT topics on his website too..

Take it all with a grain of salt.
They do whatever drives clicks and dollars over there

www.theverge.com

I wore the Apple Vision Pro. It’s the best headset demo ever.

Apple’s new don’t-call-it-a-VR-headset is the best riff on some very familiar ideas, but still searching for a purpose.
www.theverge.com www.theverge.com
 
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ader42 said:
Well I’d try using one instead of sitting in my Home Cinema.
Much cheaper than buying a new JVC projector by a long shot.

Battery life won’t matter for those using it as productivity tool (monitors) as it will be plugged in.
E.g. if ZBrush make a Mac version that allows me to sculpt in 3D while viewing in 3D - that will be awesome.

Battery life will be fine for workouts such as on my rowing machine when the inevitable rowing apps arrive.
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The projector comparison is where I see the biggest problem for this thing ever becoming 1% as pervasive as an iPhone. I mean, if you exclusively watch your projector alone, sure, it's a great deal. How favorably does a half a dozen of these compare? How easily can you even find a half a dozen people who want to sit together in a room with these things on their heads and battery packs on their bodies?

I also really don't see people using these things for workouts, to me that sounds awful, and even after all their health talk, that's something they didn't even try to demo. I guess if it's a pretty light workout, but I don't want to sweat with something on my face, that sounds like hell. The only benefit would be what, a virtual river?
 
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turbineseaplane said:
Nilay with some enthusiasm for the Scuba mask
(It's still searching for a purpose though, he admits)

That said - this is also the guy that can't stop pumping crypto and NFT topics on his website too..

Take it all with a grain of salt.
They do whatever drives clicks and dollars over there

www.theverge.com

I wore the Apple Vision Pro. It’s the best headset demo ever.

Apple’s new don’t-call-it-a-VR-headset is the best riff on some very familiar ideas, but still searching for a purpose.
www.theverge.com www.theverge.com
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When has he ever pumped crypto or NFTs? I listen to Decoder and the Vergecast and he regularly dumps on crypto stuff and presses crypto people for meaningful answers in interviews where a lot of other tech journalists would let BS answers slide.

Nilay and the wider Verge team/site have their issues, but this feels like off-base criticism.
 
waterfta said:
Honestly it kinda freaks me out if things like this catch on. People are already glued to their phones/devices as it is. This is literally gluing a device to you. I can imagine a couple sitting on a couch watching a movie "together" with these on, while one person is on the side glancing at their IG feed or whatever else. Not that people don't already do that to some degree, but this seems somehow even less personal.
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This is more or less my opinion on it. It's not that I can't see how this could ever be popular, but I don't know that it should be. And the response will be "they said the same thing about smartphones". Yes. That's the point. This kind of "immersive tech" takes what's bad about smartphones to a new level.
 
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When has he ever pumped crypto or NFTs? I listen to Decoder and the Vergecast and he regularly dumps on crypto stuff and presses crypto people for meaningful answers in interviews where a lot of other tech journalists would let BS answers slide.

Nilay and the wider Verge team/site have their issues, but this feels like off-base criticism.
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Forgive me… Pumped is the wrong word… The fact that he keeps giving them airspace to breathe is my issue.

They aren’t obliged to cover those topics at all yet they always seem to.

Maybe the intention is to be critical of them but at some point just don’t even talk about it.

There’s no need to even talk to folks like Steve Aoki and give any credence at all to “the Aoki-verse”, as just one example.

I’d LOVE him to clear the decks and slam dunk it all. It’s all trash. It’s all in the tank. Now would be an amazing time to do a piece that clears it all up with some hindsight benefit.
 
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max2 said:
We already do this when we go to the movie theater or our home movie theater. If the movie is really good.
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Yah, I'm not disagreeing with you, especially on the movie theater front. I imagine once this type of thing can be a smaller form factor such as normal glasses sized or even contacts like something from Black Mirror it will be fully realized, which again, is the scary part you could envision in those types of shows.

At the moment though, it isn't exactly the way you'd watch a romantic movie with your partner...having to worry about tangling the wires up when getting closer. Likewise, not exactly going to invite your friends over to watch the game and expect them all to bring their (hopefully charged) $3,500 devices. I 100% want to try it, but it seems like a very anti-social experience at the moment.
 
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Forgive me… Pumped is the wrong word… The fact that he keeps giving them airspace to breathe is my issue.

They aren’t obliged to cover those topics at all yet they always seem to.

Maybe the intention is to be critical of them but at some point just don’t even talk about it.
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I get the frustration, but at the end of the day it's still tech news and they're a business. The best thing you can do as a reader is to not click those articles.

Back to the headset though, he seems to have similar thoughts to my own (of course, I haven't played with one of these so mine's just a general vibe based on what I've seen): It's a nice piece of tech and I'm sure it's very fancy, but I don't know what I'm meant to do with it. I've said it a bunch of times before but it bears repeating — until this stuff fits into a pair of glasses, I'm not even considering spending a cent on it.
 
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I really think people that are convinced this is going to be some kind of main stream thing are just delusional

Simply making the technology better and better really is not going to get away from what a clunky Strange thing this is.

One day hopefully eventually this sort of stuff really gets to the point where it’s like normal glasses but we are so so far away from that.

By all means, ship products, and keep working and grinding on the problem, but we are not close yet
 
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