Yellow-gate? ;)

[purpleparrotuk]

Guys there is no "Yellowgate" on the new iPhones, in fact, what you perceive as "yellow" when viewed next to an iPhone 6/6s is in fact the correct White Point.

The displays on the 6/6s only use the sRGB Color Gamut and have a "blueish white point" with a color temperature of 7300K as measured by DisplayMate (http://www.displaymate.com/iPhone6_ShootOut.htm)

But with the new DCI-P3 color standard for the new iPhone 7 the white point is now the correct D65 white point at x=0.3127 y=0.3290 with a color temperature of 6500K.

So basically what you say is a "Yellowgate" is in fact a "Bluegate" from your iPhone 6 and 6s with a blueish white point. What you see now on the iPhone7 is the correct white point, as in how white should actually look like on displays.

(Check those links for more:
http://www.displaymate.com/Display_Color_Gamuts_1.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCI-P3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminant_D65 )

How do you explain two iPhone 7s I have just purchased. One has a more yellow tint than other.

 

[chrizzz09]

Got any proof to back up your statement? Ill help you out - no you dont. Like the other poster said theres no glue. Never been glue. Never will be glue. Glue isnt used.


Apple uses two suppliers for screens. One has a yellow tint with less sharp text and worse contrast. The other is clear, crisp, and beautiful. You can tell the instant you turn on the phone which screen you got. If you got a yellow screen it will never get better. No glue will dry. No break in will happen. This we know from multiple years of this same issue.

If you like the warmer screen keep it. Just dont ever put it next to one of the good screens. Cause once you see what you could have had you cant unsee it.
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Nope, Apple uses two suppliers and one has a yellow tint. It also has less sharp text. It isnt more correct. If you like yellow tint you should demand a screen with good brightness, clear text etc as present on the good screens. Then you can adjust your screen to be more yellow/"correct" and have both.

This is pure non-sense. Every supplied display has a defined screen resolution of 1080p or 750p respectively. Text can't appear less sharp unless the resolutions of the provided displays are significantly lower...which in fact is also not possible because iOS operates at defined resolutions.

Please stop posting non-sense without providing factual based sources for your claims...

 

[kre62]

This is pure non-sense. Every supplied display has a defined screen resolution of 1080p or 750p respectively. Text can't appear less sharp unless the resolutions of the provided displays are significantly lower...which in fact is also not possible because iOS operates at defined resolutions.

Please stop posting non-sense without providing factual based sources for your claims...

Ive seen the screens side by side. When I put my 6S next to the 7 the text was way clearer on the 6S. This is the same as many past years as well, I have compared multiple generations of screens against the yellow screens that pop up in each refresh with the same result.

The text is less sharp on the yellow displays. Sorry, you wont be able to convince me that they are equal when I've seen it with my own eyes. In regards to facts, you are the one who has none, unless you have a study comparing both vendors displays? I'd personally love one of these tech sites to do that and call Apple out on this. It's been happening for years.

Don't try to make arguments for Apple and come up with wild justifications. Hold them accountable. And if you haven't seen the screens side by side, you have no more room to comment as it is speculation on your end.

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How do you explain two iPhone 7s I have just purchased. One has a more yellow tint than other.

Unfortunately one has a good screen from the preferred vendor, and the other has a B grade screen.

 

[Ries]

This is pure non-sense. Every supplied display has a defined screen resolution of 1080p or 750p respectively. Text can't appear less sharp unless the resolutions of the provided displays are significantly lower...which in fact is also not possible because iOS operates at defined resolutions.

Please stop posting non-sense without providing factual based sources for your claims...

Please stop posting non-sense without providing factual based sources for your claims...

http://samsungs24a850dw.blogspot.dk/2011/09/blog-post_1073.html

Not all pixel are created equal. If it is two different suppliers, the pixel may not behave 100% identical. Sharpness is defined by a lot more than just resolution.

 

[mattwestside]

I am OK with the slightly warmer screen, but the issue with mine is that there seems to be a more pronounced yellowing toward the bottom of the display. For example, the bottom row of keys on the on-screen keyboard definitely look more yellow than the top. Hard to snap a photo of it to show, but I'll give it a few days to see if it's really glue curing, those these devices have been fully assembled for at least a month now. Maybe it's heat-sensitive or something.

 

[kre62]

I am OK with the slightly warmer screen, but the issue with mine is that there seems to be a more pronounced yellowing toward the bottom of the display. For example, the bottom row of keys on the on-screen keyboard definitely look more yellow than the top. Hard to snap a photo of it to show, but I'll give it a few days to see if it's really glue curing, those these devices have been fully assembled for at least a month now. Maybe it's heat-sensitive or something.

Hi Matt you are noticing something many of us have been experiencing for years. See my other post on Apple using two vendors. It's not glue and never has been. It will not get better and your only option is to get it replaced.

 

[mattwestside]

Hi Matt you are noticing something many of us have been experiencing for years. See my other post on Apple using two vendors. It's not glue and never has been. It will not get better and your only option is to get it replaced.

Appreciate the reply. Aside from multiple suppliers, does anyone know what the actual yellowing phenomenon is? Almost reminds me of last year's issue with the "dark shadow" around the carrier/battery icon that seemed to result from too much internal pressure against the screen. Either way, Im sure the Apple folks (1) won't see it and (2) will look at me like I'm crazy, but my eyes are sensitive to color uniformity and on this small a screen after so many years, you'd think they'd have the QC process a little more dialed in.

 

[chrizzz09]

Please stop posting non-sense without providing factual based sources for your claims...

http://samsungs24a850dw.blogspot.dk/2011/09/blog-post_1073.html

Not all pixel are created equal. If it is two different suppliers, the pixel may not behave 100% identical. Sharpness is defined by a lot more than just resolution.

Your source is nonsensical to the discussion, because it shows the difference between different pixel-structure processes.

The display manufacturers Japan Display and Sharp/Foxconn don't use different pixel-structure processes for the manufacturing of displays for the iPhone. Apple gives them the exact guidelines how they want their displays.

Do you really think they go to Japan Display and Sharp and just tell them: "Hey we want iPhone displays, please produce them for us...however you want, we don't care." ?

 

[xeio]

i have a warmer Display Color on my 7 and the text is sharper than on my iPhone 6 and 6s. what about now? do i have a Screen from a third supplier?

 

[kre62]

i have a warmer Display Color on my 7 and the text is sharper than on my iPhone 6 and 6s. what about now? do i have a Screen from a third supplier?

If you like the way your screen looks, you have nothing to worry about.

 

[DSTOFEL]

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I was just at the apple store today and was playing with one of the regular 7's and noticed it had a really yellow/brown tint. I laid my wife's 6s next to it for comparison (see photo at the top of this post). The same night and day difference as in your photo. I checked and none of the new color filters had been turned on. The displays on the other 7's in the Store looked more like the 6s. So, there does seem to be some variability amongst the displays.

Update on this: I was back in the same Apple Store today picking up my new 7 and noticed that the black 4.7?inch iPhone 7 that had the yellow/brown display was gone... just the lightning connector (attached to nothing) remains! They pulled it! BTW, the display on the 7 that I got today looks just like my wife's 6s (posted in an earlier thread)....which is not a bad thing!

 

[AndrewR23]

You're incorrect. Stop spreading your falsehood.

no you are wrong. theres no glue, it was only true for the iPhone 4 in 2010. and it was yellow spots, not the whole screen.


In fact the 7 doesn't even have glue on the screen lol! NOT glue!

 

[ZipZap]

Has it not been established that the brightness gain comes only form use in direct sunlight?

 

[Bryan Bowler]

no you are wrong. theres no glue, it was only true for the iPhone 4 in 2010. and it was yellow spots, not the whole screen.


In fact the 7 doesn't even have glue on the screen lol! NOT glue!

No, I am not wrong. There is an adhesive on the digitizer that takes a little time to cure. There seems to be a group of you that are denying that, but there is in fact adhesive there.

 

[kre62]

Has it not been established that the brightness gain comes only form use in direct sunlight?

Heres a nice tinted 7 that is brighter than the 6S. So no, not confirmed. Good, clear, bright panels exist.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/yellow-gate.1996889/page-7#post-23491271

 

[AndrewR23]

No, I am not wrong. There is an adhesive on the digitizer that takes a little time to cure. There seems to be a group of you that are denying that, but there is in fact adhesive there.

http://osxdaily.com/2016/09/16/yellow-screen-iphone-7-fix/

when your entire screen is yellow, it has nothing to do with glue. If that was true, then changing the temp of the screen in settings wouldn't make it any less yellow.

 

[Maleption]

And the screen of 6s+ is brighter from my sight.
But Apple says 6s(+)=500nit, 7(+)=625nit.

 

[thadoggfather]

That looks terrible!

 

[bnekic]

Ive seen the screens side by side. When I put my 6S next to the 7 the text was way clearer on the 6S. This is the same as many past years as well, I have compared multiple generations of screens against the yellow screens that pop up in each refresh with the same result.

The text is less sharp on the yellow displays. Sorry, you wont be able to convince me that they are equal when I've seen it with my own eyes. In regards to facts, you are the one who has none, unless you have a study comparing both vendors displays? I'd personally love one of these tech sites to do that and call Apple out on this. It's been happening for years.

Don't try to make arguments for Apple and come up with wild justifications. Hold them accountable. And if you haven't seen the screens side by side, you have no more room to comment as it is speculation on your end.

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Unfortunately one has a good screen from the preferred vendor, and the other has a B grade screen.

1080p is 1080p wtf are you talking about with less clear?

 

[GusHerb]

Went to Best Buy this evening to finally check out the 7's....they were all yellow with the exception of one that was as cool as my 6.

Both 7's the one on the left is the cooler one if you can't tell. (My camera didn't pick it up that well in the store)

and then a Jet Black 7 next to a 6S. The 7 Pluses were also fairly yellow.

The only good thing I noticed about the 7 displays is they were all uniformly lit, even compared to the 6S displays. Not sure if that's cuz they cherry picked them or if they finally got that inconsistency resolved.

 

[kre62]

Went to Best Buy this evening to finally check out the 7's....they were all yellow with the exception of one that was as cool as my 6.

Both 7's the one on the left is the cooler one if you can't tell. (My camera didn't pick it up that well in the store)

and then a Jet Black 7 next to a 6S. The 7 Pluses were also fairly yellow.

The only good thing I noticed about the 7 displays is they were all uniformly lit, even compared to the 6S displays. Not sure if that's cuz they cherry picked them or if they finally got that inconsistency resolved finally.

More proof multiple panels exist. Thanks.
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http://osxdaily.com/2016/09/16/yellow-screen-iphone-7-fix/

when your entire screen is yellow, it has nothing to do with glue. If that was true, then changing the temp of the screen in settings wouldn't make it any less yellow.

BOOM goes the dynamite.

 

[sonicblue83]

My 7 also has a yellow screen.

I just went to the local Apple Store where I bought it to check the phones which are displayed there. Interesting thing was that all displayed phones with a serial number that starts with D had yellow screens and all that started with F had nice white screens. The serial of my 7 also starts with D.

That doesn't mean that all D serials are defective and the F serials are fine. But since all of these phones were day 1 deliveries there is a good chance that the D phones were produced together and so are the F phones. This then could mean that there really are two different kind of panels and the two factories had the different panels on its production dates.

 

[piecookie]

My 7 also has a yellow screen.

I just went to the local Apple Store where I bought it to check the phones which are displayed there. Interesting thing was that all displayed phones with a serial number that starts with D had yellow screens and all that started with F had nice white screens. The serial of my 7 also starts with D.

That doesn't mean that all D serials are defective and the F serials are fine. But since all of these phones were day 1 deliveries there is a good chance that the D phones were produced together and so are the F phones. This then could mean that there really are two different kind of panels and the two factories had the different panels on its production dates.

My phone apperas yellow or "warmer" and starts with F in serial number.

 

[sonicblue83]

As I said that doesn't mean all D are bad and all F are good. But I think all day 1 D phones in my local store were produced together and all day 1 F phones were produced together. I don't think that fabric D gets all panels 1 and fabric F all panels 2. But for example fabric D get 1000 panels 1 so the next 1000 phones will look the same and then maybe they get 2000 panels 2 so the next 2000 phones produced will again look the same but probably different to the first 1000 phones since it was another panel. This would explain why in my local Apple store all D phones look yellow and all F phone look white.

 

[Azzurro]

Mine has a yellow screen so I will return it.