Yes very good point, I am also interested to know if the regular iPhone 12 has the same issue too since I am not too sure if the panel manufacturer is the same for both.
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iPhone 12 Pro Yellow Screen/Tint? Display seem "Warm"? Check here first!
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Interesting observations though. I’m keen to see any measurements on peak brightness variations. The older OLED iPhones had horrible colour shifts then but it’s greatly improved with the iP12. I am using a “horribly yellow” iP12 Pro but don’t see any off axis shift.
Also keen to hear what do you mean by other defective characteristics, and what is displeasing to the eye.
Neil, the HCFR calibration video is interesting, thanks for sharing.
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We can go all scientific by setting numerical thresholds, but frankly I would say go with what makes you comfortable. If a yellow screen really peeves you to no end, then get it changed. It’s a matter of preference. However, I would wait for a few months before trying again.
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Thanks for sharing. Based on the article, the sample devices they tested were calibrated at D65 white point. If that’s the case, there‘s no way a blue screen is accurately calibrated.
On the flip side, my iPhone 12 Pro definitely looks warmer than D65, with TT turned off. Not sure if a reboot is needed.
I'll correct you there - Some older iPhone OLEDs had horrible color shift. Some older iPhone OLEDs also had reduced brightness. Some older iPhone OLEDs also had a yellow tint.
See where this is going?
Each year you have a batch of good phones, and a batch of bad phones. Each year, the bad phones display the exact same characteristics. Each year the good phones have the same characteristics.
You can find examples of the iPhone X, XS, 11, and now 12 with the exact same issues - same tint, same color shifting, same reduced brightness.
But guess what? You can also find examples of the 3G, 3Gs, 4, 4S, 5, 5S, 6, 6s, 7, and 8 with the Exact. Same. Issues. Exact.
See what i mean? think of it like a pie chart. One portion is bad, yellow, not bright, etc. The other is crisp, clear, beautiful. At launch the bad slice of the pie is bigger than it is 6 weeks after launch.
I agree there’s a possibility of QC variation. After all, we are looking a production cycle of millions of screens, being produced across multiple manufacturers. It is impossible to have the same panel quality being produced at such scale, at least not for what you’re paying. Perhaps one day we’ll have a Pro Display XDR/Eizo quality-level type screen with ColorSync ICC profiling, for the true Pro users. I doubt the accuracy of Apple’s display calibration, judging from the earlier HCFR video. Based on real world samples, there’s no way all screens are calibrated at D65.
It might be true that one manufacturer’s panel might be better than the others. That’s why we have a concept called the panel lottery. However, your definition of a defective panel (simply by attributing the screen color) is grossly misleading to the community. Not to mention that you’re comparing products across 10 years with different display technologies. Perhaps you’ve seen many yellow screens w/ off-axis shifts that led you to this conclusion. To dispute that, I’ve got a yellow screen 12 Pro with that looks visually stunning with zero shifts. Apart from off-axis shifts, you’ve not highlighted what are the cringy bits about yellow screens.
Many of your conclusions are against visual cues. Display color accuracy is a data-driven science. Take a look at the video below on what constitutes as a real review. Until then, what you’re saying is simply your conjecture with your anecdotal observations and inference.
Yellow or blue screen, go with what you’re comfortable with. You paid for the phone anyway. I’m getting out of here.
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Has anyone on this thread received a cool white crisp iPhone 12/pro? Or does everyone have a jaundice yellow one?
Without TT on, my display is very white. Probably too blueish for me even.
With TT on though, it shifts very warm. Much more aggressive than my old X.
Would you be able to photograph it side by side with another iPhone screen or an iPad? If there are cool blue displays in existence I will know mine is definitely defective
If I'm not mistaken, the regular 12 is the same display that the Pro is using. iFixit mentions they are interchangeable.
Reading comprehension is tough, I get it.
I never said its solely based on a warm calibration. The bad screens have much more wrong with them, including (again): reduced contrast, reduced brightness, and with OLED massive color shift off axis.
Thats 4 things. Not one.
I see everyone is just comparing a white screens with previous gen’s, but has anyone tried video play back with HDR?
I played several movies using the Apple TV app playing HDR content. The X def blows the 12 pro out of the water when comparing black tones, color depth, and brightness. Example: in a street night scene, the street lights are brighter in the X and blacks on the 12 Pro are not as deep as the X. I used max brightness and True Tone off for both phones.
This is all elementary comparisons, but clearly the color depth in the 12 pro is a downgrade from my X (which is over 2 years old). Maybe someone with more HDR content availability can chime in?
Top: 12 pro
Bottom: X
photo taken with iPhone 8.
I played several movies using the Apple TV app playing HDR content. The X def blows the 12 pro out of the water when comparing black tones, color depth, and brightness. Example: in a street night scene, the street lights are brighter in the X and blacks on the 12 Pro are not as deep as the X. I used max brightness and True Tone off for both phones.
This is all elementary comparisons, but clearly the color depth in the 12 pro is a downgrade from my X (which is over 2 years old). Maybe someone with more HDR content availability can chime in?
Top: 12 pro
Bottom: X
photo taken with iPhone 8.
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Well then. Pretty ironic your first post goes on a tirade solely checking the screen for yellow hues, with zero mention on luminance and shift issues. And leading everyone to think all yellow screens are defective.
That’s a good question and all I can say is that we won’t be able to answer it. It really depends on your perception of a „white crisp iPhone“. In my opinion the screen is more yellow, but I compared it to a friend of mine who said that his has no yellow tint. And guess what: his 12 Pro was slightly more yellow than mine. But I would say he’s just used to it. He also used True Tone on his past devices - I haven’t used True Tone on any of my devices, so my eyes are more used to a blueish screen. And I also only realized it by having my X side-by-side or when I’m switching to/from my iPad.
I then compared it to two 12 Pro and one 12 and all had the same color tint as mine. I’m currently tending to the „keep it“ side, rather than try my luck in the screen lottery.
Furthermore you have to say that the people who don’t see a problem or don’t mind a slightly change (in their eyes), will not look for threads like this one or complaints in general just to post „everything’s ok with mine“. So you will mostly find people posting about problems, rather than people posting about not having a problem.
And finally: What makes you think that a blueish iPhone is not a defective device? Only your current perception of a nice color tint (mainly based on your old or other devices)
You won’t really be able to tell if the white from a picture is more or less yellow than the white on your iPhone, because it’s really hard to capture these effects. I tried my luck in photographing the yellow tint and all I got was a picture where the compared iPhone X and 8 looked more yellow than my 12 Pro - when it’s really the other way round.
I don’t want to say that there may not be some (or even a lot) defective iPhone 12 out there, all I’m trying to say is that it may also be your idea of a perfect white, which is preventing you from enjoying a lovely device (... which is also why I’m here, in my eyes I would like a blueish screen more than a yellowish)
Yellow is the easiest symptom to diagnose. The display phones don't look like that. Therefore, anything not matching the display phone, blue or yellow, is defective.
Symptoms of these bad panels. Reduced contrast and brightness, distorts colors and you lose the "infinite blacks" that oled provides. Instead blacks look yellow-gray
im curious are people with bad panels seeing even the blacks on UI elements with dark mode enabled that should be true black, not being? Is that how bad the situation is?
It's not just near-blacks that are blown out?
Here they are side by side with true tone on and off. Left is 12 pro, right is X. The 12 Pro is definitely warmer and I'd say in person it is more pronounced. But if I turn off TT, the 12 pro is almost perfect white while the X is too blue with TT off.
Photos taken with iPad Pro 2020.
