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Symptoms of these bad panels. Reduced contrast and brightness, distorts colors and you lose the "infinite blacks" that oled provides. Instead blacks look yellow-gray
Wow. This is getting interesting.

I’m not sure if you understand how OLED generates infinite blacks. OLEDs provide infinite blacks by switching the subpixels off, with zero light emission. There is no way that a OLED can generate yellow-grey blacks, in a switched-off state. Unless you’re telling me the base substrate has a yellow tint (such that you can see it even when the screen is switched off?)

I’ll leave you to believe in your own theories, whatever they are... this has been wildly fun but I need to get back to my real life now.
 
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That’s a good question and all I can say is that we won’t be able to answer it. It really depends on your perception of a „white crisp iPhone“. In my opinion the screen is more yellow, but I compared it to a friend of mine who said that his has no yellow tint. And guess what: his 12 Pro was slightly more yellow than mine. But I would say he’s just used to it. He also used True Tone on his past devices - I haven’t used True Tone on any of my devices, so my eyes are more used to a blueish screen. And I also only realized it by having my X side-by-side or when I’m switching to/from my iPad.
I then compared it to two 12 Pro and one 12 and all had the same color tint as mine. I’m currently tending to the „keep it“ side, rather than try my luck in the screen lottery.

Furthermore you have to say that the people who don’t see a problem or don’t mind a slightly change (in their eyes), will not look for threads like this one or complaints in general just to post „everything’s ok with mine“. So you will mostly find people posting about problems, rather than people posting about not having a problem.

And finally: What makes you think that a blueish iPhone is not a defective device? Only your current perception of a nice color tint (mainly based on your old or other devices)


You won’t really be able to tell if the white from a picture is more or less yellow than the white on your iPhone, because it’s really hard to capture these effects. I tried my luck in photographing the yellow tint and all I got was a picture where the compared iPhone X and 8 looked more yellow than my 12 Pro - when it’s really the other way round.

I don’t want to say that there may not be some (or even a lot) defective iPhone 12 out there, all I’m trying to say is that it may also be your idea of a perfect white, which is preventing you from enjoying a lovely device (... which is also why I’m here, in my eyes I would like a blueish screen more than a yellowish)
I guess the way I see it is I buy a new iPhone every year, every year the screen tint is blue and not yellow. So if I receive one that's yellow I think its defective.

I completely understand Apple may have changed their screens to a yellow tint, so it may not be defective. However I've got no way of knowing this? Apple telephone and chat support didn't think the screen colours had been changed. They didn't announce at their event "our screens are now yellow", so all I can do is ask and try and find out if other peoples screens are the same as mine. Sadly my country is in lockdown so going to an Apple shop and comparing to display units is out of the question.

I have an iPhone 11 Pro and an iPhone 12 Pro, photographing them side by side I can see an obvious difference in the colours. I know the photos won't match colours exactly, but if someone can show an iPhone 11 Pro and 12 side by side that match it supports the theory mine is defective. I know this could mean their iPhone 11 Pro is defective, but it's the best we can do?
 
Here they are side by side with true tone on and off. Left is 12 pro, right is X. The 12 Pro is definitely warmer and I'd say in person it is more pronounced. But if I turn off TT, the 12 pro is almost perfect white while the X is too blue with TT off.

Photos taken with iPad Pro 2020.
Thanks - yeah yours looks way better than mine. Very close colour wise.
 
Wow. This is getting interesting.

I’m not sure if you understand how OLED generates infinite blacks. OLEDs provide infinite blacks by switching the subpixels off, with zero light emission. There is no way that a OLED can generate yellow-grey blacks, in a switched-off state. Unless you’re telling me the base substrate has a yellow tint (such that you can see it even when the screen is switched off?)

I’ll leave you to believe in your own theories, whatever they are... this has been wildly fun but I need to get back to my real life now.

Yep, sure do understand that. Like I mentioned in another response, my theory is there is a literal film being deposited on the screen during lamination.
 
Thanks - yeah yours looks way better than mine. Very close colour wise.
I noticed it right away when I turn on the 12 pro for the first time. You can tell just by the color of the apple at the boot up screen that it was more yellow than the X. It is more pronounced in person than my iPad captured on the photos. Idk, either I'm getting used to it or the screen does "settle" as some people claim, because I'm starting to notice it less.

Not saying that there aren't phones with different screen calibrations. I am sure there are. My fiancee's 12 pro should be here in a few days and then I'll finally get to compare mine to another 12 Pro.
 
I guess the way I see it is I buy a new iPhone every year, every year the screen tint is blue and not yellow. So if I receive one that's yellow I think its defective.
That’s why I’m also here :-(
But what are the opportunities:
Switch it 1 to X times (someone said he switch his iPad 7 times, another one wrote about someone who returned it 20 times - don’t know if it’s true). I’m not gonna do that, I don’t really want to exchange it even one time (but that would at least be ok, if I knew I would get a blueish one).
Return, wait and order again? But how long should we wait? 1 week, 1 month or 1 year?
Switch to Android? (Just a joke - no way I would do that)
 
That was my case, and I’m surprised how few people is talking about this. Maybe not as common as yellow tint or harder to be aware of.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-display.2263200/?post=29115587#post-29115587
Well, now we are really getting to the actual meat of the issue. This is also why it infuriates me when people try to claim it's simple calibration.

Heres a great pic of this yellow film/tint on an iphone 4s, chose that cause this really really is an issue every year.

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For the record, I had a 4S that was exactly perfect, exactly matched the phone on the right. So no, not all 4s' were bad. Just. Like. This. Year.
 
Yeah that seems like an easy way to show something is wrong

Just curious got a pic of it ?
It was difficult to capture on camera, but next to my old XS you can definitely tell the difference. Curiously if you move the brightness slider all the way up it fixed the problem. Now I returned the phone and just wanna be sure it is not a common issue before getting a new one.
 
Holy crap, I just tested LG Oled Video.
Look at this on your 12, especially between 1:45 - 2:02.

IT IS NOT REAL OLED, real black on this device. The 12s are so bull.
Yellowish tint, no real OLED black.

My XS is mindblowing gorgeous, full black, rich colors.
 
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I really wonder what True Tone is supposed to be doing here. Again my MacBook Pro isn’t this aggressive so I just had to assume this is a slap in the face???
 
Holy crap, I just tested LG Oled Video.
Look at this on your 12, especially between 1:45 - 2:02.

IT IS NOT REAL OLED, real black on this device. The 12s are so bull.
Yellowish tint, no real OLED black.

My XS is mindblowing gorgeous, full black, rich colors.

For the most part this looks fine on my 12 Pro. Blacks blend into the notch and edges of the screen.
 
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This battery test video shows screen settings across the last 3 generations side beside and they all look identical to me.
 
Holy crap, I just tested LG Oled Video.
Look at this on your 12, especially between 1:45 - 2:02.

IT IS NOT REAL OLED, real black on this device. The 12s are so bull.
Yellowish tint, no real OLED black.

My XS is mindblowing gorgeous, full black, rich colors.
What are you seeing? It looks great to me.
 
Holy crap, I just tested LG Oled Video.
Look at this on your 12, especially between 1:45 - 2:02.

IT IS NOT REAL OLED, real black on this device. The 12s are so bull.
Yellowish tint, no real OLED black.

My XS is mindblowing gorgeous, full black, rich colors.

Funny, this guys XS had the issue:



Are we starting to get this people? Are we starting to understand that there is a batch every year with a yellow film/deposit on it?

Are we starting to understand that just because one person, or a reviewer, has a good screen, does not mean all have the same screen?

Always baffled my as to why this is such a difficult concept for people to grasp.
 

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Funny, this guys XS had the issue:



Are we starting to get this people? Are we starting to understand that there is a batch every year with a yellow film/deposit on it?

Are we starting to understand that just because one person, or a reviewer, has a good screen, does not mean all have the same screen?

Always baffled my as to why this is such a difficult concept for people to grasp.
So how was it fixed???
 
Holy crap, I just tested LG Oled Video.
Look at this on your 12, especially between 1:45 - 2:02.

IT IS NOT REAL OLED, real black on this device. The 12s are so bull.
Yellowish tint, no real OLED black.

My XS is mindblowing gorgeous, full black, rich colors.
My 12 Pro has no issue with this video. Black is black and there's no tint or glow.
 
My 12 Pro has no issue with this video. Black is black and there's no tint or glow.
I feel like watching this video isn't really fair. My wife's X shows the video in HDR (there is a little label in YouTube) but my 12 doesn't, so I'm not actually convinced I'm seeing an HDR video.
 
I feel like watching this video isn't really fair. My wife's X shows the video in HDR (there is a little label in YouTube) but my 12 doesn't, so I'm not actually convinced I'm seeing an HDR video.
I noticed this too. I don’t actually think we are seeing HDR in YouTube as it should say in the quality options for the video. Maybe the apps not been updated to support the 12. Not sure about Netflix etc.
 
I noticed this too. I don’t actually think we are seeing HDR in YouTube as it should say in the quality options for the video. Maybe the apps not been updated to support the 12. Not sure about Netflix etc.
Exactly. Now watching movies in my iTunes library that have the HDR label look absolutely phenomenal on my 12.
 
Exactly. Now watching movies in my iTunes library that have the HDR label look absolutely phenomenal on my 12.
Awe man I don’t have anything to test it. Don’t even have Apple TV anymore and seems none of the other streaming apps are showing HDR
 
Awe man I don’t have anything to test it. Don’t even have Apple TV anymore and seems none of the other streaming apps are showing HDR
Yeah I'm sure they will get updated here in the next week or so, its still early. Honestly watching HDR stuff on my 12 makes me kinda want to get an OLED TV lol, the colors are mind blowing (with TT off).
 
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