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Fortunately I don’t seem to have any issues with my launch iPhone 12 Pro Max (serial G6TDK0). I purchased 2 (one for both myself and my partner and hers is identical to mine)

Compared to my iPhone 11 Pro Max it is nearly the same however my 11 seemed to have too much blue where it was making the whites too intense. My eyes are very sensitive to any screen imperfections. I do find the iPhone 12’s screen more natural
 

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Fortunately I don’t seem to have any issues with my launch iPhone 12 Pro Max (serial G6TDK0). I purchased 2 (one for both myself and my partner and hers is identical to mine)

Compared to my iPhone 11 Pro Max it is nearly the same however my 11 seemed to have too much blue where it was making the whites too intense. My eyes are very sensitive to any screen imperfections. I do find the iPhone 12’s screen more natural
Apple loves people like you!

P.S. - more yellow = more cheap from a panel perspective!

Many photographers in this thread confirming that many 12's have super inaccurate colors. Some have good colors and are 6500k calibrated. Many do not.
 
Apple loves people like you!

P.S. - more yellow = more cheap from a panel perspective!

Many photographers in this thread confirming that many 12's have super inaccurate colors. Some have good colors and are 6500k calibrated. Many do not.
The picture was taken with an iPad Pro. In reality the screens are much closer to the naked eye

However browsing through this thread there does seem to be a major problem with the oled panels
 
Nor will any software update, except one that enables full calibration control.

I feel like I can't emphasize this enough:

THERE WILL BE NO SOFTWARE FIX FOR THIS.

People have been saying apple will fix this via software since 2009. That's 11 years for the mathematically challenged.

If you have a yellow screen,, you have 1 option

RETURN FOR FULL REFUND
So there's no way for a software fix for this, except for that one you just mentioned. Gotcha.
 
again, looking back at the new pics for the last 5 pages, I dont see a single unacceptable panel.


turn off True Tone.


it does appear, based on the biased sampling of screens posted here that the panels this year with

- true tone
- white point


are on the slightly warmer side. But I honestly can't see a panel posted in the last 10 pages or so that is egregious that it warrants a return
 
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So there's no way for a software fix for this, except for that one you just mentioned. Gotcha.
Which apple has refused to do for over a decade. The point is I don’t want to see people cling to hope for a software fix when this year is no different than the last 11. Apple won’t fix this via software, so don’t hold past return date in hope.

But keep just laughing at peoples posts. That’s super effective. Lots of people think you are the man for doing that. Just to be clear: zero people think you are cool- for doing that. You look like an absolute idiot to everyone.
 
again, looking back at the new pics for the last 5 pages, I dont see a single unacceptable panel.


turn off True Tone.


it does appear, based on the biased sampling of screens posted here that the panels this year with

- true tone
- white point


are on the slightly warmer side. But I honestly can't see a panel posted in the last 10 pages or so that is egregious that it warrants a return
I agree. Yes there are panels that are more yellow than others and should be returned however panels from the iPhone X/XS/11 era with extreme blue shift and searing whites are not calibrated correctly

The white point on my iPhone 12 Pro Max is very similar to the white point on my monitors (which I have calibrated)
 
Fortunately I don’t seem to have any issues with my launch iPhone 12 Pro Max (serial G6TDK0). I purchased 2 (one for both myself and my partner and hers is identical to mine)

Compared to my iPhone 11 Pro Max it is nearly the same however my 11 seemed to have too much blue where it was making the whites too intense. My eyes are very sensitive to any screen imperfections. I do find the iPhone 12’s screen more natural

here's a good example of how people are erroneously freaking out over "yellow" panels.


but reality is:

the one on the left is as blue as
the one on the right is yellow
 
here's a good example of how people are erroneously freaking out over "yellow" panels.


but reality is:

the one on the left is as blue as
the one on the right is yellow
Sure however the Iphone 11 is far too blue and hence not colour accurate
The iPhone 12 might look yellow in the pictures but in reality is much closer to a true white point
 
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Sure however the Iphone 11 is far too blue and hence not colour accurate
The iPhone 12 might look yellow in the pictures but in reality is much closer to a true white point
correct, this is my general point.

those "white" screens people are trying to lotto into aren't actually correct because their trying to bias themselves into a screen that's actually blue or green or pink



if you polled the yellow_screen zealots in this thread your 2 iPhones, the vast majority of them would pick the left as being "perfect" when in reality its actually quite tinted blue.
 
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correct, this is my general point.

those "white" screens people are trying to lotto into aren't actually correct because their trying to bias themselves into a screen that's actually blue or green or pink



if you polled the yellow_screen zealots in this thread your 2 iPhones, the vast majority of them would pick the left as being "perfect" when in reality its actually quite tinted blue.
And yet a person, with no knowledge of calibration, would pick one over the other as more pleasing to the eye. So from a meta standpoint, what calibration is actually correct?
 
correct, this is my general point.

those "white" screens people are trying to lotto into aren't actually correct because their trying to bias themselves into a screen that's actually blue or green or pink



if you polled the yellow_screen zealots in this thread your 2 iPhones, the vast majority of them would pick the left as being "perfect" when in reality its actually quite tinted blue.
100% agree. Unfortunately I think people have gotten too used to the extreme blue shift and searing whites and unfortunately on this release are being let down when in reality the new iPhone's are more colour accurate especially in regards to photography.

However, that's not to say some of these panels aren't defective and too "yellow". I've seen some examples in this thread which should definitely be returned.

I originally went through 4 iPhone XS Max's because they were either too green or red. Ended up getting a good screen however it was no where near as accurate as the iPhone 12.

98% of new iPhone 12 users will not notice any problems with their new iPhone and/or screen. It is the 2% (being the enthusiasts) that will notice these flaws. I'm sure most customers also run dark mode on all their devices (me being one of them)
 
Which apple has refused to do for over a decade. The point is I don’t want to see people cling to hope for a software fix when this year is no different than the last 11. Apple won’t fix this via software, so don’t hold past return date in hope.

But keep just laughing at peoples posts. That’s super effective. Lots of people think you are the man for doing that. Just to be clear: zero people think you are cool- for doing that. You look like an absolute idiot to everyone.
They won't make that software change for 11 years, yet your crusade is to get them to change their entire supply chain to ensure the screens are always to the buyer's personal preference. You're delusional if you think they'll do that before giving users a setting to choose their screen color temperature.

Keep fighting the good fight though, my man! Lead the revolution! I'm sure Tim Apple will be knocking your door any day now, headhunting you for your very specific revolutionary skills...
 
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They won't make that software change for 11 years, yet your crusade is to get them to change their entire supply chain to ensure the screens are always to the buyer's personal preference. You're delusional if you think they'll do that before giving users a setting to choose their screen color temperature.

Keep fighting the good fight though, my man! Lead the revolution! I'm sure Tim Apple will be knocking your door any day now, headhunting you for your very specific revolutionary skills...
Nah dog my thing is making sure people don’t accept mediocrity, and refuse to accept a low grade panel.

I want every single person on earth to reject a panel that is not 6500k dead on balls accurate.

Its an industry term you wouldn’t get it.
 
Nah dog my thing is making sure people don’t accept mediocrity, and refuse to accept a low grade panel.

I want every single person on earth to reject a panel that is not 6500k dead on balls accurate.

Its an industry term you wouldn’t get it.
Oh, so the same reason I don't accept your mediocre bs conspiratorial claims in the OP. I see, thanks for making it clear.
 
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12 Pro Max on left, XS Max on right (both are at full brightness with True Tone off, images taken with an RX100M5). The yellow tint is quite apparent...

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Returned my 12 pro today.

During the return and reactivation of my X I wandered over to the iPhone 12 section of the Verizon store.

The 12 max and 12 pro looked pretty good even with True Tone on; I turned True Tone off and they even looked bluish - colors filters off.

Encouraging and somewhat useless without pics but just thought I’d share.

I’m gonna wait till Jan or Feb to try again; these nice looking iPhone displays were at the Renton, WA landing Verizon store on case anyone is wondering.

My display was decent with True Tone off, but the flickering issue on black screens and the desire for a “good” screen led me to my return and subsequent 50 dollar restocking fee.

X...back on the job and the display is amazing!
 
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iPhone 12 Pro Max Pacific Blue 512gb - yellow screen, serial: G0NDK6 unboxed on 13th Nov, running iOS 14.2 old build; attached pictures are 6s plus vs iPhone 12 Pro Max with brightness at 50% and True Tone + night shift off
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Hi, I am really disappointed from Apple this time. I am iPhone User since day 1, so it's nothing new for me, that display temprature changes. At least for some panels. But I felt that Apple is aware of that and handling it better now.
Well, they don't. It's worse than ever.
I don't mind if my Display is yellow, blue or green. As long as it shows me accurate Colors on pics that I shoot.
I've the iPhone 12 Pro Max and got the yellow display issue + flickering blacks in lower brightness. Photos that I shoot with the iPhone 12 Pro Max looking everything but not accurate. It looks like on an Galaxy S7. Somehow a little bit oversaturated. Regarding the screen issue, I had one more strange behaviour. I was in camera app (testshooting) and moved the device down (like it would be lying on a table). Everytime I did this, my whole screen was filled with green and pink lines. When I turned it back upwards it dissappeared. I was able to repeat this endless. Unfortunatelly I didn't make a photo of it. After a restart it never happened again. So don't know if that maybe has something to do with this flickering issue.

Attached some pics compared to my XS Max.
 

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My 11 Pro (5.8”) on the left and the 12 Pro Max on the right. I think I’m going to stick with the 11 Pro to be honest. It’s been my favourite iPhone, battery is excellent. I’ve found the 12 PM to be a bit underwhelming to be honest, the ”dirty” screen just tops it off.
 

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Apple loves people like you!

P.S. - more yellow = more cheap from a panel perspective!

Many photographers in this thread confirming that many 12's have super inaccurate colors. Some have good colors and are 6500k calibrated. Many do not.

From my experience it would seem it is not the best idea to tell people which screen looks better from pictures, since they rarely can be captured accurately.

I think generalizations like this will only confuse people and if he (who saw the phones in real life) finds the 12 to be more natural, it might just be the better screen.

So i'm gonna show my pictures and story after all, to make a point. I originally didn't want to, because i was not able to capture what i was seeing in real life and based on the pictures, people would probably just say "your mini looks almost the same as the X, why did you even order another one etc...".


So anyway... Here's a picture of the 3 Minis i compared. The one on the left looked just like the others. Likely just because of the angle that it looks different here (you can see the same thing happening on the right side of the one on the right). But they looked all identical, except for mine in the middle maybe being a tiny little bit "cooler", but it might just have been in my head. I looked at different color calibration pictures too and the colors were the same on all of them. So the screens and their calibration seem to be almost identical.

Since i find it highly unlikely that i would find 3 bad screens and they just happen to look the same, i would say this is how they are supposed to be and my 3 year old X is just not accurate anymore, even though i'm having a hard time getting used to the new screen.
Also no black flickering issues on any of them.

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Lets look at the next picture.

In reallife the difference between the X and the Minis is much bigger. And you can tell that the angle is affecting things again.
And if you compare the 2 pictures, both phones in the middle look much closer to each other in color, than they would in real life. In reality the X looks much cooler than the Mini. Yet judging by this picture, one would probably instantly say that this one is the best and the one on the left is very bad and should be returned. The one on the right is "okay".

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I'm not saying there are no screens that are too yellow and bad. We all know this happens with some every year. I'm just saying that it doesn't always have to be the yellower looking screen that is the bad one. And pictures can fool you.

And many People who used a phone for years will likely tend to prefer the hue they are used to.
We all know that not all OLED colors age at the same speed, so especially iPhone X users likely don't have a very accurate screen anymore. Personally i'm a "light" phone user. Someone who hangs on their phone all day probably got the same or even more screen time in a year, than i did in 3 years, so i also wouldn't count on this not happening yet on 1 or 2 year old phones. Some people are hanging on their screens all day long.

TLDR:
I doubt that it helps to judge and compare screens from photos, unless the difference is really really big.

As a side note:
True Tone on the X changes the screen much less than on the Minis. The Minis get extremely yellow. But all by the same amount, so i guess it works as designed (but hopefully will get toned down)
 
My 11 Pro (5.8”) on the left and the 12 Pro Max on the right. I think I’m going to stick with the 11 Pro to be honest. It’s been my favourite iPhone, battery is excellent. I’ve found the 12 PM to be a bit underwhelming to be honest, the ”dirty” screen just tops it off.
The grey color inside the boxes on the 12 pro max is yellow 🤦‍♂️🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Compared to your 11 pro which looks 100 percent grey.

This better be fixed with a software update
 
People,

Although past experiences may shape the present and the future that it's not always the case.

First and foremost, there's never been a yellow tint issue reported with that extreme intensity (now we are at page 84 as I speak).
Essentially, we don't know yet the nature of the problem. Just because there has been yellow tint in older models, (which, as I've said, hasn't been that intense) , doesn't mean that it shares the same nature.

Who knows if this time has to do with true tone. If true tone is too aggressive on, and then when it's turned off a yellow tint can be seen, there's a chance there's a problem with the system managing true tone.

It is perfectly possible that it is a software issue. Not related to calibration but related to the system managing true tone.
I could do a 2 page post talking about different possibilities regarding software issues.
So, as we don't know yet. I wouldn't incur in the irresponsibility of encouraging or discouraging people to take determinate actions and to kill peoples hopes and expecations.

If it's a software issue, we'll know within a month. If it's not, a chance could be that first units were not as good as the ones that are going to be produced in a future. Then an exchange will be possible, and even more possible for those who received their units after Nov 10th.

And there's another chance ,that I think we should all start to be ready to have this conversation: maybe LCD cool-blueish is not what defines a good display and maybe it's just us getting used to what a good display should be showing.

So, plenty of possibilities out there and all end happily.

Be kind and responsible with the users please.

Regards.
 
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Right well that's my return started goodbye iPhone 12 Pro Max and welcome back iPhone 7 Plus my old friend .. I've read through the bickering in the posts above and despite the couple of guys who for whatever reason seem to be adamant that we are all making this up and we must be seeing things .. simple fact for me is, my phone had backlight bleed, a green band all up the right hand side on black screens, and the thing looked absolutely awful with true tone switched on, and not much better with it off. I find it really difficult to believe that all these reviews have been raving on about how this is the best, brightest, clearest screen that Apple have ever made... yet I look at my 7plus and it looks fantastic in comparison. Regardless of whether you believe everyone has been fooled by previously "too white" phones.. I expect, for £1100, and based on all the overly positive reviews, a screen that looks better than my 4 year old phone. So it's gone back.
 
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