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There is another reason why it only works with Bluetooth LE: security.

It's similar to why Apple didn't implement AirDrop between Mac and iOS right away. While on a Mac, it used the wifi, on iOS, it always relied on Bluetooth LE. If AirDrop was turned on via Wifi on iOS device, and since there may be hundreds of iOS devices nearby that is connected to same wifi network, there were high risk of accidentally dropping a file into a random phone. Bluetooth LE prevents this by making sure the devices have to be very close together in order to work.

Same reason for Handoff. If everything was regulated to wifi only, there may be risk of accidentally handing it off to a wrong Mac. Bluetooth LE prevents this by forcing the device to be close by, but not too close. For the phone call handoff, it still works on wifi because the phone number is tied to Apple ID. (and the user logged into Mac must be logged into that Apple ID as well)

PS: Bluetooth LE provides better encryption as well, compared to normal bluetooth. And yes, from what I have heard from my friend who went to WWDC, and had the chance to talk with Apple technicians, yes, dongle will work.
Stop it. Don't you know you're not supposed to make sense, you're supposed to have a reaction that Apple's implementation is purely about screwing customers with older devices in an effort to force them to upgrade. :)
 
What a faux argument.

Late 2008 rings in at 1920x1200.
A retina is 2880x1800.

It's the size of the CHARACTERS on the screen that count. I can't see them if they're too small. I suppose I could just replace them with iBalls, but as Apple don't make them I'm stuck with these deficient fleshy ones.

A 17" screen is easier to read as I can get more text of a given size on the screen - 17" is bigger than 15" m'kay.
 
Apple introduces a great feature in a new version of the os that runs on older macs, but it turns out the feature itself depends on technology older macs do not have.

How unsurprising.
 
Apple introduces a great feature in a new version of the os that runs on older macs, but it turns out the feature itself depends on technology older macs do not have.

How unsurprising.

I'm still upset at them for supporting the 802.11ac that isn't in my 2009 MBP. ;)
 
I don't like when bloototh is always on, so this feature is for me absolutly useless

I have a MacBook Pro 13 early 2011 and an iPhone 5S
 
Until one can replace the SSD in the new Macs, I'm going to stick with my 17" MBP. Those retina versions seem to be the epitome of Less is More. About 1/3 more money for fewer features.

Oh well, I'll just have to live without the shiny new iOS integration features. It'll be hard I know, but ho hum, I've survived this long without them...

Meh.

You can replace the SSD in new Macs.

http://www.everymac.com/systems/app...etina-display-how-to-upgrade-ssd-storage.html
 
"over the weekend"? June 3? This was posted June 17, TWO WEEKS after.

Just checked my Bluetooth File Exchange and see that it is version 4.2.4. Is this not BT 4.0?
 
Do both the iPhone and Mac have to have Bluetooth LE? I know my iPhone 4 doesn't have BT LE

Yes, both devices must have BT LE. But the iPhone 4 isn't compatible with iOS8 regardless.

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Why would they use BT instead of Wi-fi?
IS it only because bluetooth is more energy efficient ?

:mad:

To make sure compatibility across the current line of OSX and iOS devices, including something like the "iWatch," which likely would have BT but not WiFi.
 
Yosemite 'Handoff' Feature Likely Limited to Macs with Bluetooth LE

Why would they use BT instead of Wi-fi?
IS it only because bluetooth is more energy efficient ?

:mad:


WAY more

Also has benefit of proximity.
 
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Continuity is something different then handoff.
Handoff works, Continuity doesn't.

I think you've got that backwards. Handoff is what requires BT4. Continuity as I understand it is an umbrella term for features including Handoff, the remainder of which do not require BT4.
 
Thanks. I just realized that I don't use iOS anymore so I'm not really missing anything because it's not possible on android anyway. I can see google copying this eventually.

Considering Handoff functionality requires integration at the hardware and software level on both devices, how will Google copy this considering a) Android's fragmentation and b) Google's lack of control over Windows and OS X ?

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Well my Macbook Air is a 2012 model, says it has bluetooth 4.3 and handoff isn't working between it and my iPhone 5.

That's the Bluetooth software version. No relation to Bluetooth 2.1 vs. 4.0, which is a hardware spec.

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Probably not. Apple may limit Handoff to built-in bluetooth only.

There's already a precedent with PowerNap: it only works with MBAs and rMBPs that have always shipped with factory-installed SSDs. There's technically nothing preventing my 2009 MBP 13" with Samsung SSD from having PowerNap (since its firmware already supports Dark Wake mode), except for Apple's refusal to do so.

Speaking of SSDs, Mac OS X supported TRIM command since version 10.6.6 or so, but it artificially limits the feature to those that identify themselves to the system as "APPLE SSD". Of course, there are utilities that patch the system driver so that 3rd party SSDs work with TRIM, but still.

Another example: in iOS 3.0 (then called iPhone OS) Apple caved in to demand and added support for MMS, however it was limited to iPhone 3G and 3GS, leaving out the original iPhone. So the jailbreak community quickly discovered that one of the system frameworks had a check for model version, basically saying: "if you're not iPhone 3G or newer, then no MMS for you!" There was also a patch that enabled MMS on jailbroken 2G iPhones, proving that all required support was already in place.

Whether or not you choose to take them at their word, Apple generally has a good reason (other than revenue generation) for not supporting new features on older hardware. It usually boils down to some sort of performance or security issue. No matter what they do, they always get criticized for it.

Example: Critics expressed outrage that Apple did not allow iOS 7 on the iPhone 3GS while expressing equal outrage that iOS7 ran slow as balls on the iPhone 4. Had Apple tried to cave in to both of these complaints by ensuring iOS7 was both compatible with the 3GS and that it performed as well as iOS6 on the same devices, the result would have been a lackluster OS update and they'd been criticized for failing to innovate.
 
re: wi-fi

I would suspect BT 4.0 was chosen over wi-fi for ease of use reasons?
Not everyone has wi-fi enabled on their device, for starters. Some people still use wired ethernet connections in environments where there is no wireless connection.

With wi-fi, you generally have to have an "infrastructure" in place. (At minimum, some sort of wireless router handing out IP addresses to wireless clients that are configured to connect with it.)

Bluetooth 4 will work without the "middle man" of a router necessary. Devices just pair with each other and it works.

* EDIT: I just read one of the messages posted above where AirDrop technology was explained, and obviously it manages to establish a second direct wi-fi connection between two devices, for the purpose of transferring a file between them, regardless of the normal wireless configuration. I didn't realize that's how it was doing things, and that could theoretically be used here too. But that's a complicated enough of a thing so it only works when the Mac has supported hardware in it -- meaning it would limit you to it only working on newer Macs anyway, just like the Bluetooth 4 support requirement does. I still think BT 4 is the more straightforward way to get two devices talking directly with each other.


Anyone else struggle to see the logic in using BT 4.0 over WiFi?
I don't even have BT turned on much, unless I'm in the car but WiFi is always on. :confused:
 
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