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Nintendo 2DS - $148
iPhone 5C 16GB - $739

There's your reason why the 5C won't favour so much of a younger audience whereas the Nintendo 2DS will.

I'm not comparing the product on price, just the companies decision on design. A product that is a little more sturdy for a younger crowd.

The 2DS is meant for 3-4 year olds. The 5C will be for 8 and up.
 
This was supposed to be the phone to conquer the emerging markets and I failed to see how that price point will do this. What is the difference between the strategy of the 5c versus previously with the lower priced last year models?

Another is the fact that they want to eliminate the 30 pin connector, yet they chose to keep the 4S. It makes absolutely no sense.

You say it was supposed to conquer the emerging markets but said that? It just conjecture before hand of what apple were going to do. I mean its being called a plastic phone gut it is in a aluminium house which is covered in a plastic substance which I assume it is easier to make it coloured.

As for keeping the 4s it does goes a little way of having models with different screen sizes. Personally I have always thought that the 5 screen size was a little odd. When the 6 comes out next year (?) then the 4s will disappear. I think that 3GS didn't disappear until the 5 came about.

The 5c is the 5 replacement and I cannot see why they would keep the 5 as well as the 5c.
 
You must not use many apps then. Apps are what tie me to iOS, if they move to Android I'll go too.

My difficulty with the 5c is it looks bargain bin / kiddie phone, it's priced for adults though. Not a good combo. That said I'd buy one if my 4S conked out, or I would have done if they weren't priced stupidly.

I use plenty of apps, but most big app have one for both, and smaller ones will likely have one similar. My friend has a 3GS and never complaints about a lack of apps.
 
I use plenty of apps, but most big app have one for both, and smaller ones will likely have one similar. My friend has a 3GS and never complaints about a lack of apps.

Well none of my "big" have an analogue in Android land:

OmniFocus? No
Textastic? No
GitMongo? No

There are more but these are probably the ones I'd miss the most.
 
I'm not comparing the product on price, just the companies decision on design. A product that is a little more sturdy for a younger crowd.

The 2DS is meant for 3-4 year olds. The 5C will be for 8 and up.
Maybe but I've heard lots of adults wanting a 2DS. Their one issue was that the 2 screens on the 2DS were in fact 2 screens and not just one large screen that can be split or used as a whole.

I agree the 5C is for 8+ but would parents want to pay $600+ for their children? It's a tough pill to swallow.
 
This was supposed to be the phone to conquer the emerging markets and I failed to see how that price point will do this. What is the difference between the strategy of the 5c versus previously with the lower priced last year models?

Another is the fact that they want to eliminate the 30 pin connector, yet they chose to keep the 4S. It makes absolutely no sense.

Agree with the 30 pin connector and the screen size. Why keep the 4S??
Make an 8GB 5C instead!
 
This is a much more elegant solution from Sony. This is how you make colorful phones! We are not 5 year old, Apple!
 

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"You Know What? Screw the 5c"

You couldn't figure that out from the jump? It's basically a iPhone 5 in a plastic body. And it's really going backwards from a phone that you already have on the market. Make's no sense what so ever. Why not keep the old model on the market and make it $100 cheaper?
This is like Samsung making a aluminum Galaxy S3 a year later during the Galaxy S4 announcement. Why even bother?

Because people would do nothing but complain that all Apple did was lower the price and made no changes. The color options on the 5C will help with more market penetration. Did it occur to you that not everybody is shopping only for price? Maybe people want style. I mean, for goodness sake, it's a PHONE.
 
The answer is simple if you do not like the C version, do not buy it but let's the ones who do want it, buy it
 
I don't think Android users care about the iPhone 5c and iPhone 5s. The fingerprint reader is the coolest thing I seen today. Now repeat that last sentence a few times and then rethink your comment.
Apple did nothing to steal Android users away from Android. It might be the other way around.

But there are tons of Android users on here commenting rather positive or negative. If they didn't care they wouldn't be here. Now you should rethink your comment. ;)

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While I think the 5S is a nice phone for the most part (could be 4.2-4.5 inches imo) the 5C honestly looks like a piece of crap. The shiny plastic and curvature of the phone screams 'teenager/tween/kid/fischer-price'. Honestly look at that picture and tell me the 5C doesn't look like a kid's toy.

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I mean plastic is fine if you do it well (well done plastic can approach metal in that 'premium feel'). You can have a nice professional looking plastic phone with a textured feel instead of this piece of crap. Seriously Apple, what happened? The only half decent colour there is white, everything else I could see maybe a teenage girl using but me? No way. (Seriously what about black/brown/beige/silver).

And Apple, you should have know better that to try and copy MS.

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Apple copying the Nokia? Hell no. Did you forget about the colorful iPod Nano's years back? You guys are hilarious. :rolleyes:
 
Perhaps, but surely the market for the "budget" iPhone is a lot larger?

And it would act as a gateway drug to the flagship iPhone...

I question who is making these decisions at Apple.

There's always been:

iBook and the Powerbook

Macbook and the Macbook Pro

Macbook Air and the Macbook Pro

iMac 21" and iMac 27"

Every company has a lower model and flagship. It doesn't stop consumers from buying either one. Some people are on a very tight budget and the extra $100 for the flagship model may push them over the top, so in turn they go with the lower model. For the rest that can afford the flagship they buy it. Plain and simple.

Apple's past decisions over the years have ended with the same response your putting out right now and look where they are today, $100+ billion in the bank. They know what they are doing. ;)
 
I bought an iPhone 5 last year at whatever subsidized price it was.

It's not plastic. It may ding and scuff and show marks beneath, but it's not plastic.

It has pretty much the same insides as the new 5C. But it's not plastic.

Say what you want about how it may feel…the 5C is plastic. My iPhone 5 is metal.

I'm missing the point you're making. Is there one?
Yes, the 5C has the same insides as last years iP5 (5C has a bit larger battery tho).
Yes it is made from polycarbonate...and its 33% cheaper than the 5. Similar to the 3G and 3GS models.

The 5S is the same price as your last years 5, but it's an upgrade.

I have a iPhone 5 too.

:confused::confused::confused:
 
There's always been:

iBook and the Powerbook

Macbook and the Macbook Pro

Macbook Air and the Macbook Pro

iMac 21" and iMac 27"

Every company has a lower model and flagship. It doesn't stop consumers from buying either one. Some people are on a very tight budget and the extra $100 for the flagship model may push them over the top, so in turn they go with the lower model. For the rest that can afford the flagship they buy it. Plain and simple.

Apple's past decisions over the years have ended with the same response your putting out right now and look where they are today, $100+ billion in the bank. They know what they are doing. ;)

That's all fair enough.

Cash in the bank is incredible, but their stock price is quite a different story.

The flagship continues to go up in price every year (in the UK, certainly) and the 5C is basically charging what a 5 would have costs, except they can scrimp on the materials - so their margins are even better.

Again, it will lead to cash in the bank but I'm betting that as a more cost-effective phone, the 5C will bleed even more ship-jumpers to Android.

Apple need to start fighting to get their user base back, that's honestly more important long-term than $50-100 on the 5C.

Melodramatic cliche time but this is Apple v Microsoft all over again, with Apple refusing to learn enough lessons (other than minting money!!)!
 
I bought an iPhone 5 last year at whatever subsidized price it was.

It's not plastic. It may ding and scuff and show marks beneath, but it's not plastic.

It has pretty much the same insides as the new 5C. But it's not plastic.

Say what you want about how it may feel…the 5C is plastic. My iPhone 5 is metal.

My thoughts exactly. Anyone who tries to tell me that their 5c is better than my 5 (except of course with LTE, but how much does that matter in the US?) will get laughed at.
 
Maybe but I've heard lots of adults wanting a 2DS. Their one issue was that the 2 screens on the 2DS were in fact 2 screens and not just one large screen that can be split or used as a whole.

I liked the idea because it isn't 3D. My friend has a 3DSXL and the 3D effect hurts my eyes. They always have, especially 3D movies. Still, nintendo's idea is to make it more durable for younger kids.

I agree the 5C is for 8+ but would parents want to pay $600+ for their children? It's a tough pill to swallow.

I'm thinking parents would upgrade them on their family plan for $99.
 
I have travelled overseas a lot and I can tell you many people want apple products but wish they were cheaper. I'm not talking about kids. I'm talking about normal people with jobs.

This.
I can't see how Apple's aggressive profit margins could outperform a massive increase in market share by slightly cutting the resale price of all it's products, especially outside of the US where we get stung by Apple's twilight-zone tax and money conversion premiums.
 
But will it sell better than the 5 would have at $99?

The 5C and 5S will sell more than last year due to additional markets around the world that werent available last year. I personally feel like demand will be less though and I would love to see the numbers in the US if they were available.
 
I'm missing the point you're making. Is there one?
Yes, the 5C has the same insides as last years iP5 (5C has a bit larger battery tho).
Yes it is made from polycarbonate...and its 33% cheaper than the 5. Similar to the 3G and 3GS models.

The 5S is the same price as your last years 5, but it's an upgrade.

I have a iPhone 5 too.

:confused::confused::confused:
My point is that Apple chose to replace a good and decent aluminum iPhone with a plastic one and decided that between the 4S and the 5 that the 4S was the better phone to keep around.

Whatever their reasoning, and I get it, they can't tell me that the plastic 5C is a better phone than my metal iPhone 5, especially when the insides are about the same. And that is what they are implying by replacing the 5 with the 5C and not the 4S.

They could have had a iPhone 5 trifecta, but chose not to.
 
Even if you purchase a subsidized 5c, you're still paying an unbelievably high price via the increased monthly wireless service costs.

I don't understand this part... why would the monthly wireless service increase by purchasing a subsidized priced phone? Do you get discounted service rate for not being on contract?
 
I don't understand this part... why would the monthly wireless service increase by purchasing a subsidized priced phone? Do you get discounted service rate for not being on contract?

Yes. Maybe not as many options in the US but certainly outside of it.
 
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