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You People Are Crazy
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I totally agree, just what have they been doing the past 16 months? And this is supposed to stay competitive for another 12-16 months? Wow they sure are dreaming up in Cupertino..
I'm more excited for the Nexus Prime unveil next week!
This phone was so cheap to make. They already had the design from iPhone 4 and a chip from iPad. They did nothing new. A company that has so much money does this????!!!!!! This is such a DISASTER and a DISAPPOINTMENT. I hope that people are smart enough to understand this.
I mean at least do some upgrade on the screen for Christs sake, Super Retina+, or better colors, but to ship the exact same iPhone4 with just the standard dual core upgrades is shocking to say the least.
Innovation
I mean at least do some upgrade on the screen for Christs sake, Super Retina+, or better colors, but to ship the exact same iPhone4 with just the standard dual core upgrades is shocking to say the least.
Innovation
Android isn't iOS nor an Apple product .......... This is what keeps me as an iPhone consumer and will continue to keep me as an iPhone consumer as long as iOS keeps working near flawless, has the best sync between my mac and cloud, largest app & best game selection, also I actually like iTunes, .... and etc:
I had my iPhone4 replaced twice completely free. First time cause the mic stop working unless it was on speaker and the second time it was completely my fault which was water damage and a small crack on top of screen. It was even 11 days past warranty the second time. I wouldn't ever get that type of service from any other manufacturer and/or carrier.
I too was disappointed that a larger screen design wasn't introduced, but it's going to take a lot more than a larger screen and steroid-like specs to make me switch to Android just to deal with something that's still going to be less smooth and less reliable.
So when people says Apple is running behind with the iPhone, I disagree. It's everyone else competing against the iPhone, not the other way around. And Apple just proves that every year by going at it's own pace.
I had my iPhone4 replaced twice completely free. First time cause the mic stop working unless it was on speaker and the second time it was completely my fault which was water damage and a small crack on top of screen. It was even 11 days past warranty the second time. I wouldn't ever get that type of service from any other manufacturer and/or carrier.
I too was disappointed that a larger screen design wasn't introduced, but it's going to take a lot more than a larger screen and steroid-like specs to make me switch to Android just to deal with something that's still going to be less smooth and less reliable.
So when people says Apple is running behind with the iPhone, I disagree. It's everyone else competing against the iPhone, not the other way around. And Apple just proves that every year by going at it's own pace.
The 4S was likely finished before WWDC. The only reason for the delay was the software. I don't see why this is so hard for some people to grasp. Not only did they have to finish up Lion this year but they also had to introduce iCloud. That is the reason why it took longer than usual.
Personally I like the iP4 design better than the curvy/teardrop mockups...
I really just wanted an LTE iP4
I really just wanted an LTE iP4
I think you mean front-end consumer devices? Because technology is a generic term and to answer your question: Intel, AMD, Samsung and many other smaller companies. Just because we don't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Intel's upcoming 3D transistor technology is very impressive and it is unique in its own.
iPhone 3GS was a speed bump as well. iPhone 4S is an impressive upgrade, dual CPU, 8MP/1080P camera, and many others. They'll continue to release more updates over time.
Just because it didn't happen this year, doesn't mean it won't happen.
Technologies are not static, you can't reasonably expect brand new screen technologies or camera or thinner but stronger cases every single 12 month.
You have the right to expect more but it's not feasible to *make* the same amount of revolutionary upgrades every year.
This phone was so cheap to make. They already had the design from iPhone 4 and a chip from iPad. They did nothing new. A company that has so much money does this????!!!!!! This is such a DISASTER and a DISAPPOINTMENT. I hope that people are smart enough to understand this.
I mean at least do some upgrade on the screen for Christs sake, Super Retina+, or better colors, but to ship the exact same iPhone4 with just the standard dual core upgrades is shocking to say the least.
Innovation
You do understand innovation doesn't have a schedule right? It comes when it is ready.
Apple can not create a brand new 'Super Retina' screen in less than 12 months, those things take time and new technologies can't be produced without problems and in scale of millions that easily without increasing the cost.
Beside Samsung's AMOLED, there is no other new screen technologies. AMOLED screens cannot at the moment be produced in millions per month, Samsung had trouble doing this for their own devices and they're the one making it.
iPhone 4S is a major upgrade to the current iPhone (the CPU/GPU upgrade is a huge upgrade from the previous model), we'll still get more updates in the future updates.
See the problems?
The only hardware upgrades are a better camera and Dual Core CPU tradeoff for 100hours standy battery lost!! Rest is software!
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Nerds get all excited about new processors and chips. In terms of real-world improvement, the 4S:
- Has Siri (which I don't see myself ever using)
- Takes better pictures
Everything else? The iPhone 4 does it all too.
Snowy_River said:
Nerds get all excited about new processors and chips. In terms of real-world improvement, the 4S:
- Has Siri (which I don't see myself ever using)
- Takes better pictures
Everything else? The iPhone 4 does it all too.
I couldn't agree more. Getting tired of everyone whining about how "Apple blew it". If by "Apple blew it" you mean the iPhone 4S is an awesome improvement to an already awesome iPhone 4 and that it will likely be the best-selling phone ever, then sure, Apple blew it.
I agree... Also, this probably sets them up for next year because smaller LTE chips will be available the second half of 2012.
This move on Apple is going to take a HUGE market share from Android. They now have the iPhone 4S in 16GB for $199, 32GB for $299, and 64GB for $399 for those people who want the latest and greatest. They have the iPhone 4 for $100 for those people who want something nice but don't want to break the bank. And they have the iPhone 3GS for those people who want a GREAT smartphone and pay NOTHING!!! You have to admit that this part alone is pretty impressive. If they can GIVE AWAY iPhone 3GSs, they will DOMINATE the market!
Oh yea, they are gonna do all this while making larger profit margins because they are using the same body for the iPhone 4S and the iPhone 4. Win-Win! ;-)
- Joe
Lol. Another one.
CPU: The A5 beats out all the other dual cores regardless of Ghz. You conveniently fail to mention that.
GPU: There isn't a android device that can come close, now or in the near future.
Battery: yes, but they gave us better hardware while keeping the battery the same or slightly better. No small feat.
World phone: agree
yes LTE is good, but so is battery life.
It's crazy to think we'd want the hardware to evolve. Crazy.
It's really interesting how many people today are coming to the forum to bitch about people not being happy. Unbelievable. Thread after thread about why "we should be happy".
It's a letdown but the redesign will come next year. Most likely in the summer or fall.
It's really interesting how many people today are coming to the forum to bitch about people not being happy. Unbelievable. Thread after thread about why "we should be happy".
It's a letdown but the redesign will come next year. Most likely in the summer or fall.
ahhh. They redesigned the phone internally, everything. Kept the same form factor, same screen. Gave us all the internal specs of the iPhone 5 that were rumored.
Kept the same form factor, which made it the number one selling smartphone in the world. Kept the screen the same to save on battery life.
But they didn't 'evolve' the hardware. Really? How do you figure that? How did they fail hardware wise in your opinion.
Apple cares about user experience first, specs second.
I think that's the big deal. internal component, people obviously wanted to see an external change. Absolutely ANY external change would have made this the best upgrade yet. Any being either one of these:
1) Bigger screen, maybe 3.8".
2) Rounded out the edges so it's easier on hand
3) Using another material instead of glass back
Apple could have VERY easily done this if they wanted to, but they decided against it. And that's what bugged people.
LOL "If an extra half inch of a screen is important to you, then go to android, as an iPhone is clearly not for you". You'll eat these words when the iPhone 6 has a teardrop design with a bigger screen.
Yes, If Apple had tossed the iPhone 4 internals into the tapered design, then it would wow people. Because the iPhone 4S talked so much about the internals, that it sounded like a Samsung phone. People didn't give a damn about the inside, the average consumer couldn't care less.
Exactly. If Apple added even a couple of these: Larger screen and thinner and lighter. Then this upgrade would've been phenomenal.
Apple mainly focused on specs during the 4S announcement.
..Was that a joke? The number 1 tech company in the world, which is neck and neck for being the most valuable company in the world (mrkt cap) can't come out with a new device in 12 months? Hell all the other Android smartphone manufacturers are coming out with amazing hardware every other month.
Apple could have easily released a redesigned iPhone 5. The only thing stopping them, was themselves. Apple did blow it.
But at the end, i guess fanboys will support whatever Apple does.
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I love when people complain about the standby battery life dropping from 300 to 200 hours. WHO CARES?!? I need it to have 8+ hours of stand by battery life whilst I sleep.
I want to know what the life is when I'm surfing the web & listening to music or playing Infinity Blade or Tiger Woods or Rage... I won't be mad about crummy battery life because I'm used to it as a BB user.
I want to know what the life is when I'm surfing the web & listening to music or playing Infinity Blade or Tiger Woods or Rage... I won't be mad about crummy battery life because I'm used to it as a BB user.
So anyone unhappy with Apple's hardware should just go to Android? Come on man.
This forum should just be people praising Apple. Got it.
At the end of the day it's all about comprises. I am glad that Apple did not bring any of the 4G stuff and 4" screen for one reason --> BATTERY LIFE. Can any of these other 4G and 4" screen phones have any good battery life.
I think one of the reasons why lot of people went with the iPhone 4 was that it had a good battery life apart from other things. Now I understand your concerns and I would like to address your concerns one by one.
CPU - I can count 10 phones on the market with dual cores - agreed but what are planning on doing with 4 core phone that needs to be plugged in every 4-5 hrs.
GPU - Same as GPU - I won't agree with this. Combing the software and hardware ofthe iPhone 4S, the graphics will be quite good. Need more developers that take advantage of this.
Battery - It was already good to begin with Then why spoil it by adding other things that spoils this.
World Phone - This has been done for years- I didn't know about this. This is the first I heard off.
HSPDA - 4G LTE kicks ass...nuff said - Already explained. Battery Life sucks for a 4G phone.
Siri - Sure it is better than Google Android's voice recognition but...they spent 4 months on this?!?!I doubt it was just 4 months of work. I think one part of Siri that is missing is that its integration with iCloud. Phil mentioned how it uses both the iPhone 4S and Servers in the keynote yesterday.
Look I think there is no one to blame but for our self. we were the one that said that there is going to be a redesigned phone. we were the one that said there will be a teardown shape. One of things that I read at Daring Fireball is that if you think about the tear down shape it might be very good for portrait viewing but when using it for landscape it might be problem because one side will feel heavier than the other side.
Again I do however think that this will be good time for Android to come in and make its mark even stronger if it can improve its OS. If they can make it as smooth and easy as the iOS with frequent updates then lot of folks will go with Android.
As for me...I had a 3GS and I will be upgrading into 4S and sticking with iOS because I have already spent lot of dough in the App Store, iTunes and iBookStore. And I don't want to start all that again.