You think maybe the new iPhone will have talk and surf?

[Diode]

Verizon / Thunderbolt is using SVDO which allows voice and data simultaneously over 3G. Its an evolution of EVDO and Verizon recently implemented it.

If the new chip Apple is using supports this, then expect the same functionality.

 

[BriChi]

Verizon / Thunderbolt is using SVDO which allows voice and data simultaneously. Its an evolution of EVDO and Verizon recently implemented it.

If the new chip Apple is using supports this, then expect the same functionality.

Finally an answer that makes sense, Thank you for the info Diode and other users who posted info supporting I was correct about not needing it to be a 4g/lte phone. People are so quick on forums to try and belittle someone instead of helping, meanwhile all the people on this thread trying to say I am wrong, were the ones who were all wrong. unreal.

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FWIW

http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=13483

Engadget has a VZW document that notes the experience may not be good and tells employees not to reference that functionality.

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thats good to know too, so it can do it, but poorly pretty much.

 

[jca24]

IM REJECTING YOUR ANSWER BECAUSE YOU ARE WRONG, DO SOME RESEARCH AND READ THE COUPLE OF POSTS ABOVE THIS ONE BEFORE SAYING I AM WRONG, AS PER EVEN THE TB RELEASE PAGE:::

The Verizon Thunderbolt by HTC will be the first to support simultaneous voice and data use, whether in 3G OR 4G LTE coverage areas.

ok, but verizon still sucks

 

[aristobrat]

thats good to know too, so it can do it, but poorly pretty much.

That document's 8 months old, maybe things have gotten better?!

 

[BriChi]

That document's 8 months old, maybe things have gotten better?!

haha, I will try tomorrow at work on my buddies TB and see if it's any good on the web while talking, My main thing is just emails coming in which really dont take to much data to push an email through vs loading web pages

ok, but verizon still sucks

LOL,,, not out by me, never drop a call unlike when I was on ATT, but this obviously all depends on the areas so lets not start this debate, By me, Verizon is great, In other areas, ATT is great, well at least "good enough"

 

[jca24]

haha, I will try tomorrow at work on my buddies TB and see if it's any good on the web while talking, My main thing is just emails coming in which really dont take to much data to push an email through vs loading web pages

sounds like you are back-peddeling now. when it pushes the email through can you put the phone on speaker, open the email program, read it and reply? bet you can't. my 2+ year old 3gs can.

 

[BriChi]

sounds like you are back-peddeling now. when it pushes the email through can you put the phone on speaker, open the email program, read it and reply? bet you can't. my 2+ year old 3gs can.

yes you can!

How am I back peddling? I am saying I will re-try his tomorrow to see if it has improved, it's always been able to do it on the TB, yes I can read and reply on while on a call with no LTE or wifi, but has it improved since it's release, that was my point in the previous post. JCA, are you on ATT or Verizon? I am assuming ATT since you keep saying "I can already do this on my 3gs"

 

[jca24]

yes you can!

How am I back peddling? I am saying I will re-try his tomorrow to see if it has improved, it's always been able to do it on the TB, yes I can read and reply on while on a call with no LTE or wifi, but has it improved since it's release, that was my point in the previous post. JCA, are you on ATT or Verizon? I am assuming ATT since you keep saying "I can already do this on my 3gs"

good job on assuming att!

 

[Spectrum Abuser]

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Thunderbolt and talk/surf at the same time are two totally different things.

Thunderbolt is on laptops/desktops only - think of it as a USB port that can transfer stuff like 20 times faster. All in all, it has nothing to do with talking and surfing on your iPhone at the same time.

Talk and surf is not something that can be added on to a phone like an 8 megapixel camera, it is a technology that is only enabled through the carrier.

AT&T has this technology, Verizon doesn't.

Bottom line, go ask Verizon to work on that, not Apple.

He was talking about the HTC Thunderbolt.. Not the Intel Thunderbolt ports.. You have no idea what you are talking about, either. SVDO can allow talk and data on the CDMA network and has to be put in by the phone manufactures. Please educate yourself before trying to put others down.

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If you're going to come here asking questions stop rejecting everyone's answer!

CDMA, the Verizon network, does not support voice and data at the same time - that is fact. I don't care who these TB users are, they are not using voice and data at the same time while they are on CDMA.

And, if you're so sure everyone is wrong why are you asking? Go ask at a Verizon store.

It does. Ever heard of SVDO? How did you become a major poster without even having a slight understand on this subject?

 

[Reaper0bot0]

Okay, this isn't complicated. I have an HTC Thunderbolt (and an iPhone 4, btw). It supports SVDO which means that I am able to use voice and 3G (EV/DO) data at the same time.

I am not mistaken. I am not blind. This is 100% correct, so please no bolded, all-caps bloviation about how it doesn't do it. It does.

This has NOTHING to do with LTE. My (admittedly non-techy) understanding of SVDO is that it involves an additional radio chip so that one can handle voice and one can handle data. I have used this many times. It works fine. Never had a problem.

I do not know why no other manufacturers have implemented SVDO in their handsets (heck, I haven't seen any other HTC phones with it), but it's real and it works.

http://www.cdg.org/technology/svdo.asp

 

[Reaper0bot0]

Got real quiet here, all of the sudden.....

 

[BriChi]

exactly, lol

Once everyone that THOUGHT they were right and bashed me were quickly proven wrong and just walked away, asses

 

[sulpfiction]

I couldn't care less. Like anyone (besides the user who's going to quote me and is going to say that he or she has) has ever used this in real life instead of an AT&T commercial.

I was actually at work late one night on the phone with my wife. She reminded me that is was out anniversary and asked if I had made any plans. I quickly put her on speaker phone, went online and had a reservation at a beautiful restaurant before I even hung up the phone. I then grabbed my briefcase frantically and ran out of the office. My wife had no clue I forgot about it.

Now tell me talk and surf isn't handy. It saved my marriage!!

 

[Reaper0bot0]

Yep, BriChi. I suspect they ain't coming back, either.

This topic, and the constant ignorance of it at MR, drives me nuts. Fanboys of whatever stripe will not surrender a convenient bullet point......

 

[vikingjunior]

This thread should be renamed "you don't know what your talking about " LOL!

Talk and surf is a huge feature especially when using the phone as a hotspot.

 

[PhoneI]

I was actually at work late one night on the phone with my wife. She reminded me that is was out anniversary and asked if I had made any plans. I quickly put her on speaker phone, went online and had a reservation at a beautiful restaurant before I even hung up the phone. I then grabbed my briefcase frantically and ran out of the office. My wife had no clue I forgot about it.

Now tell me talk and surf isn't handy. It saved my marriage!!

Wow, this is like a special made for tv movie.

 

[psywzrd]

I was actually at work late one night on the phone with my wife. She reminded me that is was out anniversary and asked if I had made any plans. I quickly put her on speaker phone, went online and had a reservation at a beautiful restaurant before I even hung up the phone. I then grabbed my briefcase frantically and ran out of the office. My wife had no clue I forgot about it.

Now tell me talk and surf isn't handy. It saved my marriage!!

And it made for a great AT&T commercial too.

 

[Vanarak19]

That's because 4G LTE isn't CDMA and allows for simultaneous voice and data.

Verizon LTE doesnt do voice yet, from what I heard. You still use 3g for voice.

 

[kevintech]

No but maybe it will have "surf and turf"

wow really, bro? smh

 

[BriChi]

This thread should be renamed "you don't know what your talking about " LOL!

Talk and surf is a huge feature especially when using the phone as a hotspot.

LOL,,, exactly since most of the replies are from people who "thought" they knew what they were talking about

 

[Muad'Dib]

Verizon LTE doesnt do voice yet, from what I heard. You still use 3g for voice.

Correct, but the 4G radio will work while he is using the 3G radio for voice. So the existence of LTE in the phone allows it (when in a 4G area). SVDO allows it when in a 3G only area.

 

[BriChi]

Just did a new test too on my buddies TB, called my phone and remained on the phone, with wifi and 4g off I was able to browse the net and send/receive an email at reasonable speeds. Pretty cool if that's a feature you would want, still wouldn't make me go to ATT of off the iPhone, but it could definitely be handy sometimes

 

[The Californian]

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I came in cause I saw the word surf, and I got a great laugh over the people who thought the OP was talking about a Thunderbolt port.

Bravo friends, thanks for the good show.

 

[Reaper0bot0]

And still certain people aren't popping back in on this thread.

I wonder why they left...

 

[Ksizzle9]

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I'm a little late to the thread, but you are blasting this guy for something you swear can't be done, and some people say it can't be done with out 4G radios when it most def certainly can be done. You can do it on the thunderbolt just like he said. It is not limited by CDMA. it WAS limited by CDMA, but Not on EVDO rev A. rev B most certainly can do talk and surf. So before u slam him maybe you should get your facts straight. If the thunderbolt had the same radios, minus the LTE, amazingly enough it can still talk/surf at the same time. Maybe you should go talk to a Verizon store. Maybe u should quit rejecting answers. Sorry for the rant, it just aggregates me that you are doing exactly what u are slamming him for, when u are actually the one who is wrong.

Edit: apparently this didn't quote who I was aiming to quote. Well, that sucks. You know who u are Mr. Bold letter poster- think you know it all- but actually don't- talker but when wrong don't show back up er guy. OP IM GLAD that some people with some sense came out and helped you prove your point. You were clearly right.

Also, can we please not instantly start flame wars that get everyone pissed? Please?

Lastly, comments like: Verizon sucks. Yes I use verizOn, but they hardly suck seeing as how they are "the" carrier in the united states. The only upside to a AT&T iPhone is the fact it can be unlocked. And after iOS 5, that may be out of the question. So when u go buy that GSM ATT IPhone 5, it may be locked to att's network. At which pint Verizon will still at least be able to be flashed to cricket, I agree that's not as good as be unlocked. Does that make it better than the ATT iPhone? No, why? Because it is the EXACT same phone.