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I would never boot into Windows on a Mac.

I might run it from within the Mac OS inside a window, but never would I surrender my machine to the clutches of that Pile o' ****™ known as Windows.
 
pseudobrit said:
I might run it from within the Mac OS inside a window, but never would I surrender my machine to the clutches of that Pile o' ****™ known as Windows.

LOL :D It is rather scary to think that Windows is running on your Macintosh. :)
 
pseudobrit said:
I would never boot into Windows on a Mac.

I might run it from within the Mac OS inside a window, but never would I surrender my machine to the clutches of that Pile o' ****™ known as Windows.

would you ever pay for and install microsoft office for mac? that gives microsoft more money per unit than windows does

XP, while not os x, is not as bad as windows 98 and 95 with frequent BSODs and need for yearly re-installs and monthly defrags...really the worst thing about XP is that it's such a target and that XP should come with some good anti-spam, anti-spyware, and anti-virus on it on some level

it's really unfortunate that many people don't get utilities for windows and then they end up dead meat from emails and the internet....still, in 2006, one cannot just buy a computer and use it like a tool because it still takes a considerable amount of knowledge to work with microsoft windows and keep it running smoothly and most people didn't sign up to be computer geeks in order to simply use a computer

i have had no utilities on most of my macs and nothing bad has happened to me in many years and i hope mac users who install XP on their mactels are aware that they would be major targets if they went on the internet without at least newly purchased anti-virus software (and an eye to always schedule updates often)

...hmm, actually it sounds like such a pain and i think i will actually skip boot camp for now on the mactel imac since i am too lazy to spend half a day buying XP, installing it, and then a whole mcafee or norton suite of anti-virus, anti-spam, firewall, and anti-sypware

actually, that would take all day ;) , but that really is not the fault of XP specifically, per se, and let's be glad that we are not in the windows 95 and 98 era for those who remember it unfondly
 
jefhatfield said:
i hope mac users who install XP on their mactels are aware that they would be major targets if they went on the internet without at least newly purchased anti-virus software (and an eye to always schedule updates often)

...hmm, actually it sounds like such a pain and i think i will actually skip boot camp for now on the mactel imac since i am too lazy to spend half a day buying XP, installing it, and then a whole mcafee or norton suite of anti-virus, anti-spam, firewall, and anti-sypware

6 years, no virus's, no spyware, no anti-virus software, no firewall, and a DSL connnection

trick to that: Simple, use Mozilla, and keep a soild eye on any file shareing software.

Takumi
 
Takumi said:
6 years, no virus's, no spyware, no anti-virus software, no firewall, and a DSL connnection

trick to that: Simple, use Mozilla, and keep a soild eye on any file shareing software.

Takumi

is mozilla really that safe on a pc? if it is then it's nice to know...certainly internet explorer is not that safe with XP

doesn't some file sharing software get in undetected? or do you go to some menu to look for that? i would just throw in the anti-virus software for at least piece of mind

a suite of macafee or norton utilities can cost from $50-100 dollars (US) so it's not a huge investment
 
jefhatfield said:
would you ever pay for and install microsoft office for mac? that gives microsoft more money per unit than windows does

I couldn't care less about the money angle. Putting Office on my machine and running it on OSX is a wholly different animal than handing over all my hardware.
 
jefhatfield said:
is mozilla really that safe on a pc? if it is then it's nice to know...certainly internet explorer is not that safe with XP

doesn't some file sharing software get in undetected? or do you go to some menu to look for that? i would just throw in the anti-virus software for at least piece of mind

a suite of macafee or norton utilities can cost from $50-100 dollars (US) so it's not a huge investment

That's half the problem, people installing Anti Virus software, that infects every aspect of the system, slowing everthing down, by sopposedly protecting you but in actual fact emulating the effects of a virus (poor system response, heaps of popups, more background applications using RAM and CPU cycles)

Mozilla is great, so is Firefox but Mozilla is more than just a web brrowser so I find it more useful.

I use Bearshare, wich installs 'save' unfortunatly. Fortunatly though 'Save' only loads with IE, so using mozilla means it just sits there doing nothing except taking up 1mb of HDD space. Thus no popups or spyware, addware, just this program that sits idle until you for some reason choose to use IE.

Takumi
 
Okay, who's the *********** troll who spammed me with this across AIM:

fanboysarelame said:
"but never would I surrender my machine to the clutches of that Pile o' ****™ known as Windows." Ya know what.....dont be such a ****ing mac fanboy!! Makes you look like a goddamn idiot!

Gutless coward.
 
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iGary said:
With all the fracking Windows discussion threads.


I see XP or Vista one more time....

Geebus. :rolleyes:

Who uses a Mac anyway?

No software, no users, can't run Windows applications *cough*, ignoring Virtualisation *cough*, and isn't Apple going to be bankrupt by 6 months time?

Also, Apple isn't compatible with the internet, can't do ActiveX, or play on the MSN network.

Apple machines are expensive.. hey I can get a PC for $199... Macs are
$$$. And uses incompatible hardware, and you can't upgrade.


Windows is the only way.. 95% of the world can't be wrong.
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:-D
 
You would think this was a Windows board....

It is, now.

It's MacRumors, not OSX Rumors

Get used to the new reality, hombres.


So who would intstall WinXP on a Mac?

Well, I'm sitting here in front of 3 machines, 2 keyboards, 2 mice and one monitor. Would I welcome the opportunity to ditch one piece of hardware, one keyboard and one mouse to run all the programs I absolutely have to have?

In a NY minute I would.
 
I think the worst is when mac users call Apple endlessly trying to 'get this window's thing fixed' - 'what do I do now' blah blah...
 
Peyton said:
I think the worst is when mac users call Apple endlessly trying to 'get this window's thing fixed' - 'what do I do now' blah blah...
I imagine they'll just say "Sorry, we don't offer support for the Windows operating system. Goodbye."
 
CanadaRAM said:
It's MacRumors, not OSX Rumors

Would I welcome the opportunity to ditch one piece of hardware, one keyboard and one mouse to run all the programs I absolutely have to have?

In a NY minute I would.

So true, though some of the more right wing factions may take some time to adjust

I must admit it's becomming more tempting.

Takumi
 
max_altitude said:
I imagine they'll just say "Sorry, we don't offer support for the Windows operating system. Goodbye."

Until the class action lawsuit gets filed. You know it will happen.

You gave me software to install Windows and now you won't help me. I need $millions in damages.
 
dejo said:
How do you know you don't have any viruses if you don't run any anti-virus software? ;)
Well my computer, runs very sharply, I have no popups, no delays and my bank balance/ebay account/paypal account have never had any issues. No files have misterioulsy gone missing.
I only use web based mail (gmail which might I add has an execellent spam filter) and don't tempt fate, opening the odd bogy email that makes it through the filter.

Sounds clean to me, if not it's clean enough.

Infact the only issue I have is with Surpac crashing, but that's just what Surpac does, if you have to use it you get use to it.

Takumi

I go to work on other computers and I'm frustrated by all this blasted anti virus software that keeps asking me for permission to do some random tasks.

Norton IS the Virus
 
The new coolness:

http://www.emailbattles.com/archive/battles/virus_aaddcefedj_d/


A European student has just developed a Proof of Concept for what the developer believes is the world's first kernel mode IRCbot.

The creator, Tibbar ("Rabbit" spelled backwards), says the difference between this innovation and standard Windows rootkits lies in its crossover ability. Most Windows-based rootkits hide in device drivers, then depend on outside, usermode applications to get anything done.

This creates several challenges for rootkitters:

* The abilities of requested apps are limited to the security rights granted to the User.
* The apps needed by the rootkit may not be present or accessible on the victim's system.
* Usermode operations are easier than kernelmode to detect.

That's why Tibbar thinks IRCbot is a huge leap forward. It carries its IRC app onboard, inside the kernel driver. So it doesn't need any outside help to get the job done.

This means that future generations of rootkits... if that's what we'll call these... will be even stealthier than the current crop. Oh joy.

To pull this off, Tibbar drew from a Kernel mode sockets library by Valerino, who described his effort at rootkit.com as:

A fully functional TDI sockets library. You can connect, send, receive, all from your supa-dupa-l333t kernelmode rootkit. Yes, you can bypass lame TDI firewalls with this. No, you can't bypass NDIS firewalls.

(read : you can bypass norton's firewall).

While the IRCbot does no damage by itself, Tibbar helpfully set the project up in Visual Studio 2003, so it can be easily extended. In addition, bot builders can compile the beast as either a kernelmode driver or usermode executable.

In case you were wondering, Tibbar says it's easier to build and debug your usermode IRCbot, before creating the device driver.


We might as well rename it: Apple releases new root camp beta ;)
 
Conversly, take a look at Thurrotts blog. He is supposed to be an MSN evangelist, but I count here 16 of his last 22 posts as being directly related to Apple lol

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And the most hilarious thing is that he recently blogged moaning about how Apple gets an undeserving amount of attention in relation to their market share :)
 
vniow said:
I got that one too, what a ****ass. And I haven't even posted in that section. :rolleyes:

i get them all the time, so i just tell that person that i love them and wish to make love to them
 
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