I don't know what you're talking about here, I can batch change the date and time of MY masters. I do know though that the process isn't the simplest, it took me a while to figure out how to batch process Time Stamps.
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I don't know what you're talking about here, I can batch change the date and time of MY masters. I do know though that the process isn't the simplest, it took me a while to figure out how to batch process Time Stamps.
Man, I just love ragging on A3
rant
Had a meeting today and foolishly did not allot enough time to transfer new material to show client onto my iPad. Ended in a near disaster thanks to aperture 3 (partly,) which leads me to another improvement for aperture 4.
-FIX THE EXPORTING!!!
I needed to export ipad size photos to upload to ipad and made an aperture preset at the correct dimensions. Exporting 266 photos through the preset would have taken probably 2-3 hours at the rate it was going. I ended up having to do the drag and drop export method (which was not responding to the new preview dimensions and file size I was choosing in the preferences menu) which resulted in me uploading huge 3MB photos to the Photographer Portfolio App I use, which in turn crashed it (not the apps fault, it is great and I highly recommend it, it warned that the large file sizes might crash the app), which in turn forced me to use the craptastic "Photo" app and loose my file structure and need to lump them all into one folder alongside my other galleries.
Apple: You seriously need to work on your exporting options. There is no reason it should take your "pro" application HOURS to export a measly 250-some photos AFAIK other than buggy software.
Fix the speed issues and I would be a pretty happy camper!
/rant.
Agree with Matt on speed and exporting. too many beach balls when loading Adjustments or using key short cuts (especially going to full screen). Just learning the export process myself, so I can appreciate his frustration. Why not build in export presets for iPads, etc.
Let me add stitching of photos for panoramas. After seeing this thread
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1026579/
It would nice to be able to do this w/o having to get a Plug-In program.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1026579/
It would nice to be able to do this w/o having to get a Plug-In program.
There's been a lot of good suggestions here for an upgrade of Aperture, but it seems to me that users roughly fall into one of two camps.
1) I want Aperture to Import my Raw files and manage them really well.
2) I'm annoyed that Aperture isn't the application that does everything the way I like to do things. I want Aperture to import my pictures and do most of what photoshop does too.
At this stage, I'm more interested in the first. It's true, Aperture could perhaps handle a layers type editing on top of what it's doing, but in reality it's the stability, along with speed performance, as well as tweaking the interface and filing/organisation that would make Aperture the application it needs to be.
Image import and management with a few adjustments, done really well, with no lag. Speed up my workflow, and enable me to get more work done in an intuitive and attractive application.
...Nearly there
1) I want Aperture to Import my Raw files and manage them really well.
2) I'm annoyed that Aperture isn't the application that does everything the way I like to do things. I want Aperture to import my pictures and do most of what photoshop does too.
At this stage, I'm more interested in the first. It's true, Aperture could perhaps handle a layers type editing on top of what it's doing, but in reality it's the stability, along with speed performance, as well as tweaking the interface and filing/organisation that would make Aperture the application it needs to be.
Image import and management with a few adjustments, done really well, with no lag. Speed up my workflow, and enable me to get more work done in an intuitive and attractive application.
...Nearly there
My suggestions for the next Aperture release (whatever it will be called):
- Fix the damn library bugs
Aperture 3 has screwed up my photo library numerous times. I've yet to lose any master images but I have losts a huge number of versions/adjustments which is almost as bad.
- Fix the damn memory usage
Everytime I work with a large set of images, my machine starts to swap heavily after an hour or so. This is on a machine with 8gb RAM. I don't know what Aperture is doing, because according to Activity Monitor its memory usage is "only" ~3-4gb, but still, there's no free RAM left and the machine starts swapping. Maybe an OSX bug here as well, but as a paying user I don't care whose fault it is since all the software (and even the hardware) involved in this comes from the same company anyway.
Oh, BTW: I first thought that running in 32bit mode would fix this, and at first it appears that it sort-of does, but if you look at the system console, you'll find that Aperture is spamming out-of-memory errors after a while and who knows what internal screwups that causes... (library problems anyone?)
- Fix the damn performance
The first thing I noticed after upgrading from AP2 was that it now took several times as long to download images from my camera. That has improved a bit with the bugfix releases but it's still hideously slow compared to how it used to be, especially loading the thumbnails. And BTW: Why do I have to wait for all the thumbnails to show up before I can start the import anyway?
Next thing: Exporting. Wow, has this become slow compared to AP2. Even for images without any adjustments (just straight RAW conversion) it takes several seconds per image to export. On a max'ed out 17" MacBook Pro, the fastest laptop you can get from Apple. And that's "only" 12mp RAW files, I don't want to know how bad it gets with images from a 7D or a 5D2. The same files exported much faster in AP2 on my old second-gen MacBook Pro.
Adjustments are another thing but most of them aren't that slow and I understand that the added complexity of AP3 takes it's performance toll. Still, a few tweaks in that department would be would be welcome as well.
Anyway, I really hope Apple looks into these issues and I hope we'll see a(nother) bugfix release soon.
Then, and only then, we can talk about new features (which may, or may not be the subject of a second posting in this thread)
Don't get me wrong, I don't "hate" Aperture (otherwise I'd have switched months ago), but there's no denying that Aperture 3 still has some serious issues and I encounter them everytime I work on a larger project. And it's not just annoying: Losing versions/adjustments means losing hours of work and it also means that you can't depend on this program when you need to. That's actually the worst: Knowing that you can't depend on it.
- Fix the damn library bugs
Aperture 3 has screwed up my photo library numerous times. I've yet to lose any master images but I have losts a huge number of versions/adjustments which is almost as bad.
- Fix the damn memory usage
Everytime I work with a large set of images, my machine starts to swap heavily after an hour or so. This is on a machine with 8gb RAM. I don't know what Aperture is doing, because according to Activity Monitor its memory usage is "only" ~3-4gb, but still, there's no free RAM left and the machine starts swapping. Maybe an OSX bug here as well, but as a paying user I don't care whose fault it is since all the software (and even the hardware) involved in this comes from the same company anyway.
Oh, BTW: I first thought that running in 32bit mode would fix this, and at first it appears that it sort-of does, but if you look at the system console, you'll find that Aperture is spamming out-of-memory errors after a while and who knows what internal screwups that causes... (library problems anyone?)
- Fix the damn performance
The first thing I noticed after upgrading from AP2 was that it now took several times as long to download images from my camera. That has improved a bit with the bugfix releases but it's still hideously slow compared to how it used to be, especially loading the thumbnails. And BTW: Why do I have to wait for all the thumbnails to show up before I can start the import anyway?
Next thing: Exporting. Wow, has this become slow compared to AP2. Even for images without any adjustments (just straight RAW conversion) it takes several seconds per image to export. On a max'ed out 17" MacBook Pro, the fastest laptop you can get from Apple. And that's "only" 12mp RAW files, I don't want to know how bad it gets with images from a 7D or a 5D2. The same files exported much faster in AP2 on my old second-gen MacBook Pro.
Adjustments are another thing but most of them aren't that slow and I understand that the added complexity of AP3 takes it's performance toll. Still, a few tweaks in that department would be would be welcome as well.
Anyway, I really hope Apple looks into these issues and I hope we'll see a(nother) bugfix release soon.
Then, and only then, we can talk about new features (which may, or may not be the subject of a second posting in this thread)
Don't get me wrong, I don't "hate" Aperture (otherwise I'd have switched months ago), but there's no denying that Aperture 3 still has some serious issues and I encounter them everytime I work on a larger project. And it's not just annoying: Losing versions/adjustments means losing hours of work and it also means that you can't depend on this program when you need to. That's actually the worst: Knowing that you can't depend on it.
Automagic stuff
Okay, seems like a lot of people want editing capabilities.
I'm more interested in organizing capabilities.
Keywording is a mess. I want true hierarchical keywording. I have a category called "People-Specific" with subfolders by last names with entries by full name (First Last).
Trouble is, if I add a keyword for an existing person, it will often end up at the root level, rather than in the proper folder. Then I have to move it, and it insults me with TWO dialogs, one about "Are you sure you want to move this?" and yet another about "Do you really want to merge these keywords?" AAARRRGGGHHH!
The faces stuff is pretty cool. I'd like to see it be more general. How about suggesting keywords, based upon similarity to existing keyworded photos? It should be pretty simple to suggest a "group" keyword when coming across a new photo with a group of people in it. Likewise, things like "waterfall" or "flower" should be pretty easy to auto-suggest.
Okay, seems like a lot of people want editing capabilities.
I'm more interested in organizing capabilities.
Keywording is a mess. I want true hierarchical keywording. I have a category called "People-Specific" with subfolders by last names with entries by full name (First Last).
Trouble is, if I add a keyword for an existing person, it will often end up at the root level, rather than in the proper folder. Then I have to move it, and it insults me with TWO dialogs, one about "Are you sure you want to move this?" and yet another about "Do you really want to merge these keywords?" AAARRRGGGHHH!
The faces stuff is pretty cool. I'd like to see it be more general. How about suggesting keywords, based upon similarity to existing keyworded photos? It should be pretty simple to suggest a "group" keyword when coming across a new photo with a group of people in it. Likewise, things like "waterfall" or "flower" should be pretty easy to auto-suggest.
Something seems terribly wrong here. While I use an admittedly faster 2.93GHz Mac Pro Quad with 6GB, I've never experienced any of the performance issues you speak of and Im often working with hundreds of 18MP RAWs. I cant believe my quad makes any difference as I rarely see CPU utilization higher than 2 cores. And I have less RAM than you. I've also used Aperture on my friends 2 year old 17" MBP and never witnessed these kinds of issues. It's not that Im doubting you, but if I was you, I'd take your system into your nearest Apple store or something and at least compare performance with other similar systems. With the computer you have, I can't imagine these issues unless something else is going on in the background or you've got some kind of OSX or hardware issue.
If you can figure out whats really plaguing you, you may not have to wait for Aperture 4 to get a much better experience.
I've tried every trick in the book. I had this behaviour on two completely independent systems and also did clean reinstalls. The import/export slowness existed on both of them and also with a clean library. I should add that import is faster when using normal file-based import rather than connecting my camera via PTP (aka using a card-reader).If you can figure out whats really plaguing you, you may not have to wait for Aperture 4 to get a much better experience.
Since upgrading to 8gigs, the memory problems only occur when working with really large projects (several hundred images) and only when doing long editing sessions. But you can definitely watch the memory usage climb up over time in Activity Monitor, so there has to be a bug. Maybe it's not in Aperture itself but in the RAW converter module for the camera, who knows...
As for the library problems: I tried everything to "clean" my old Aperture library. Aperture's repair/rebuild options, exporting to the whole thing to a new library, saving and restoring from a Vault, you name it...
Judging from Apple's Aperture support forums, I'm not alone with these problems...
To everyone who's having performance issues:
First, yes, Aperture sucks. Especially compared to LR3.
That said, when I switched from my Mac Pro (old…*4x2.66ghz w/ 10gb of RAM) to an MBP (2x2.66 i7 w/ 4gb of RAM) I saw a HUGE speed increase. Other than the hardware already mentioned, two things changed: a) the MBP has a SSD HD and b) I divided my projects into libraries, making each library 1/10th the size of the previous singular library.
I attribute most of the speed gains to the SSD; the Mac Pro had more raw processing power (not that Ap ever took advantage of it), more RAM, more VRAM, and the MBP still runs zippier.
On a related but different note, I'm in the camp that says Photoshop is for editing, Aperture is for managing. If Apple made Aperture really, really good at integrating with Photoshop (think not making a new version every frickin' time you went into PS), you'd get all of the editing capabilities while keeping Aperture lightweight and not-cluttered. Apple should improve on performance, integration, and publishing; let Adobe do what they do best: editing.
First, yes, Aperture sucks. Especially compared to LR3.
That said, when I switched from my Mac Pro (old…*4x2.66ghz w/ 10gb of RAM) to an MBP (2x2.66 i7 w/ 4gb of RAM) I saw a HUGE speed increase. Other than the hardware already mentioned, two things changed: a) the MBP has a SSD HD and b) I divided my projects into libraries, making each library 1/10th the size of the previous singular library.
I attribute most of the speed gains to the SSD; the Mac Pro had more raw processing power (not that Ap ever took advantage of it), more RAM, more VRAM, and the MBP still runs zippier.
On a related but different note, I'm in the camp that says Photoshop is for editing, Aperture is for managing. If Apple made Aperture really, really good at integrating with Photoshop (think not making a new version every frickin' time you went into PS), you'd get all of the editing capabilities while keeping Aperture lightweight and not-cluttered. Apple should improve on performance, integration, and publishing; let Adobe do what they do best: editing.
Aperture v LR the age old argument. It all comes down to preferences and needs. I prefer Aperture and see no performance issues.
Well we got an update to v 3.1. I wonder with iPhoto getting upgraded in iLife '11 if there will be something more substantial for us A3 users sometime in 2011.
Stability and performance mostly but sync with Facebook/Flickr seems to be two way now: galleries that were not created in Aperture sync back to it.
The only real thing I want to see in Aperture 4 is the ability to turn off the filmstrip completely in full screen mode.
I can get it to disappear until I roll over the bottom/side of the screen but I want to be able to turn it off completely.
This is by far my biggest complaint with Aperture.
I can get it to disappear until I roll over the bottom/side of the screen but I want to be able to turn it off completely.
This is by far my biggest complaint with Aperture.
Which seems like an excellent feature! I've been waiting for that - helps manage older photos!
I'm with everyone else.. I love Ap3, all I'd really like to see in it is speed improvements and better exporting/dragging out.. I've had so many problems with surprisingly shrunken output.
Sorry, my statement was completely misleading.
I vastly prefer Aperture, particularly its open-flow nature. I don't like how LR locks me into the various modules.
That said, I have always found LR to be lighter and quicker--to use some slang, "zippier".
Photo Management in Aperture
It would be SO helpful if Aperture could, somehow, import all of my photos from individual folders (even when they are located in other folders) as most of my photos have been burned onto DVDs and organized by folders. That would be incredible.
It would be SO helpful if Aperture could, somehow, import all of my photos from individual folders (even when they are located in other folders) as most of my photos have been burned onto DVDs and organized by folders. That would be incredible.
For those who complain about export times, its most likely your Aperture database (library) has fragmented over long term use. A quick fix would be to move the database (library) to an external drive. Delete the original database and then move the copied database (library) back into your machine.
Aperture will see the database (library) as a new one even though it has the same name. It will upgrade it or whatever it needs to do to initialise it, so let it do that. After, you should see a performance increase because the database isn't spread out over the entire drive. The HD doesn't have to reach out as far because your database has been written with the one write from the external drive.
Aperture will see the database (library) as a new one even though it has the same name. It will upgrade it or whatever it needs to do to initialise it, so let it do that. After, you should see a performance increase because the database isn't spread out over the entire drive. The HD doesn't have to reach out as far because your database has been written with the one write from the external drive.
Man, I just love ragging on A3
rant
Had a meeting today and foolishly did not allot enough time to transfer new material to show client onto my iPad. Ended in a near disaster thanks to aperture 3 (partly,) which leads me to another improvement for aperture 4.
-FIX THE EXPORTING!!!
I needed to export ipad size photos to upload to ipad and made an aperture preset at the correct dimensions. Exporting 266 photos through the preset would have taken probably 2-3 hours at the rate it was going. I ended up having to do the drag and drop export method (which was not responding to the new preview dimensions and file size I was choosing in the preferences menu) which resulted in me uploading huge 3MB photos to the Photographer Portfolio App I use, which in turn crashed it (not the apps fault, it is great and I highly recommend it, it warned that the large file sizes might crash the app), which in turn forced me to use the craptastic "Photo" app and loose my file structure and need to lump them all into one folder alongside my other galleries.
Apple: You seriously need to work on your exporting options. There is no reason it should take your "pro" application HOURS to export a measly 250-some photos AFAIK other than buggy software.
Fix the speed issues and I would be a pretty happy camper!
/rant.
sorry to rain on your parade but you are doing it the wrong way around..
you make a smart album in aperture 3, which is arguably one of the strongest features, and add all your photos to it. Next you go to itunes -> your ipad -> photos and manually sync from aperture within itunes.. export is lighting fast, optimized for ipad usage and much much more streamlined...
Plus, any changes or additions you add to the smart album are synced automatically to the ipad.. no need to export.
on all the other suggestions.. i agree
though layers will never come me thinks..