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Your Aperture 4 Wishlist.

jnpy!$4g3cwk said:
For Aperture 4, fix the bugs, and improve the speed. Then, release it without any new features. Save any and all new features for Aperture 5.
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And A4 would be free? Not very realistic is it? And besides, no one likes just fixing things. Developers like to create new things. Being a developer, being STUCK on a maintenance team (6 months with 2+ months to go) I have a unique viewpoint on this. :) Also the $$$ from A4 will fund A5 development. If A4 is only bug fixes, who would buy it?

Not sure about other folks and their setups, but my MP 2008 has 12GB of memory and a drive just for my photos (500GB right now but may switch to a TB drive soon) and A3 run acceptably fast.

jadot said:
Currently there are a number of issues with Aperture 3.0.3 so this list is indeed in hope! It's time Aperture 4 (or at least 3.1, 3.5 or whatever) was conjured up...
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2) A better black and white conversion module - something like Nik plugins
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Why not just get the Nik plug-in? It is great. In fact I have the entire collection with HDR Efex coming soon from B&H. :D
 
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Avchd

It was great that apple added movie support to aperture 3.

Virtually all new DSLR camera now are capable of taking HD quality movies, even some of the pro models. So it is convenient that i can organise photos and movies in the same place.

I would like to see better movie support in version 4. the support in 3 is limited. for example i would like to zoom in, or play full screen.

most IMPORTANTLY is support for more codecs and formats. For a start i would like support for AVCHD. this format is increasingly more popular for HD. The same goes for iPhoto this too needs AVCHD and increased format support.
 
TonyK said:
Not sure about other folks and their setups, but my MP 2008 has 12GB of memory and a drive just for my photos (500GB right now but may switch to a TB drive soon) and A3 run acceptably fast.
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Totally unfair baseline. Out of "pro" photogs, I would venture to guess that most of them have 4 to 8 GB RAM. OF COURSE a 12GB Mac Pro will tear aperture apart!

Aperture 3 CRAWLS on my 24" iMac 2.4GHz w/ 6GB RAM. Photoshop CS4 runs screamin fast, it can turn out a 8 shot pano with 5DII files in like 3 minutes. Sometimes it takes A3 that long to simply update a preview image after applying a NIK plugin.

No excuses for this poor performance.
 
Respectfully I disagree with the assertion that "pros" won't have the equipment needed to do the job. Then again, my definition of professional may very well be dated as well.

A professional ensures they have the tools they need to do the tasks they are being paid for. If that means a memory upgrade to support the tool set, then that is what is required.

One could easily descend in to tangents that are not relevant to this conversation so I'll leave it at this.

MattSepeta said:
Totally unfair baseline. Out of "pro" photogs, I would venture to guess that most of them have 4 to 8 GB RAM. OF COURSE a 12GB Mac Pro will tear aperture apart!

Aperture 3 CRAWLS on my 24" iMac 2.4GHz w/ 6GB RAM. Photoshop CS4 runs screamin fast, it can turn out a 8 shot pano with 5DII files in like 3 minutes. Sometimes it takes A3 that long to simply update a preview image after applying a NIK plugin.

No excuses for this poor performance.
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TonyK said:
Why not just get the Nik plug-in? It is great. In fact I have the entire collection with HDR Efex coming soon from B&H. :D
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Yes, I use the Nik Plug-in, but it's not really a smooth implementation. It feels like you're exiting the program to make and adjustment and then 'saving' the individual image back in. This does my head in when I've got a ton of images to get through. If aperture had a similarly effective module *built in* with the option to save presets etc, then you'd be getting somewhere.

I wish I had the time to fiddle around with all the plug-ins you can get, but with HDR this and that just sucking up time it can sap the will to live. And it gets in the way of actually getting out into the world to do the photography part.

And the plug ins cost extra £££s or $s (sic) too. If it's not necessary, then why pay out? I'm not a software collector/geek.
 
TonyK said:
Respectfully I disagree with the assertion that "pros" won't have the equipment needed to do the job. Then again, my definition of professional may very well be dated as well.

A professional ensures they have the tools they need to do the tasks they are being paid for. If that means a memory upgrade to support the tool set, then that is what is required.

One could easily descend in to tangents that are not relevant to this conversation so I'll leave it at this.
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I completely agree, if you are charging people for a service you better have the hardware required for a timely turnaround.

My problem is with A3s performance in relation to other, seemingly more complex operations my computer performs without a hitch.

Example: Premier CS5 will work with my 1080 24p 5dII footage flawlessly, never froze once, renders a 3 minute timeline in about 3 minutes.

A3 takes 3 minutes to export 3-5 photos at full size JPG, SLOW. I don't really understand how my other "Pro" apps run blazing fast and don't give me ANY problems, yet A3 makes me tear my hair out.
 
My Requests:
- Better Performance
- Better adding of metadata on import
- Ditch Lift & Stamp for select and adjust to all. (Lift and Stamp is very un Mac like)
- Add Faces data into the metadata so I don't have to add it twice
- Auto: stitching panos, picture sequence and video sequence
- Kill the ridiculously high P&P
- Aperture brush (hell yeah!!)

My Comedy Request:
- Auto 3D
 
jammiefreerider said:
My Requests:
- Better Performance
- Better adding of metadata on import
- Ditch Lift & Stamp for select and adjust to all. (Lift and Stamp is very un Mac like)
- Add Faces data into the metadata so I don't have to add it twice
- Auto: stitching panos, picture sequence and video sequence
- Kill the ridiculously high P&P
- Aperture brush (hell yeah!!)

My Comedy Request:
- Auto 3D
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Add a vote for better metadata on import; I'd also like to see an easier to use keyword search, as in iPhoto - meaning, w/o having to bring up an inspector box.

Add: more variability between folders and projects. Folders within projects, as well as the current projects within folders. I can add albums inside project, but I like multi-level hierarchy.

As for Faces - skip it altogether. total pain in the ass.
 
The one reason I don't use Aperture is that I have an archive of RAW and DNG files which have been corrected in Adobe Camera Raw. If I bring them into Aperture all the changes are lost. This kills it for me and means I have to buy Lightroom instead of Aperture despite the new App Store pricing. If Aperture 4 could inherit ACR Raw changes I would be a convert.

...oh and keep the pro focus. I feel these days Apple is too consumer focussed for my tastes. I know that's where the profits lie but I feel like they don't really care about professional users anymore. Take the horrendously out-of-date www.apple.com/pro pages for example...
 
AxisOfBeagles said:
Add a vote for better metadata on import; I'd also like to see an easier to use keyword search, as in iPhoto - meaning, w/o having to bring up an inspector box.

Add: more variability between folders and projects. Folders within projects, as well as the current projects within folders. I can add albums inside project, but I like multi-level hierarchy.

As for Faces - skip it altogether. total pain in the ass.
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Agreed- skip faces. Keep it in iPhoto, no need for it in aperture.

I would like to see an exposure brush as well. No idea why they don't have one... It is already a slider adjustment, how much harder could it be to make it a brush on/away with softness and brush tip controls?

Better noise reduction would be nice too, something more like Noise Ninja results.
 
jammiefreerider said:
My Requests:
- Better Performance
- Better adding of metadata on import
- Ditch Lift & Stamp for select and adjust to all. (Lift and Stamp is very un Mac like)
- Add Faces data into the metadata so I don't have to add it twice
- Auto: stitching panos, picture sequence and video sequence
- Kill the ridiculously high P&P
- Aperture brush (hell yeah!!)

My Comedy Request:
- Auto 3D
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Ditch lift and Stamp in it's current form - I could definitely go for. The feature still needs to be in there though, it just needs a less fiddly implementation
 
While I echo requests to improve stability and speed, here's my wish list for several very significant new features:

The ability to export books to the iPad in the ePub format - not PDF.

Allow brush masks to be copied and applied to other adjustments. Quite often I will painstakingly brush an adjustment onto an oddly shaped object in a photo, then see the need to brush a different adjustment onto that same object.

Support for more than 5 adjustment bricks of any particular type. This is especially necessary for the Color brick.
 
More items for the wish list

I hadn't seen anyone ask for these:

Better merge management of libraries: I work on my laptop and on a desktop and sometimes make updates on both. Like other systems managing merge it would be good to see when a conflict occurs and be able to select the change

The ability to stack items in an album across projects.

More editing options for creating web galleries.

Better insight into when releases are coming I buy a number of third party tools and would rather have some insight into when new features are likely to come. Ok others said this but it bears repeating :)
 
I know this is an old thread, but I read through the whole thing.

Currently, I don't really have any issues with the performance of A3 in my workflow. I use it for 95% of my post, with CS3 doing some little things here and there. There are some of my wishes though...

- Make the Library system easier to use, switch to, search, and navigate, perhaps by utilizing drag and drop.

- The noise reduction is brutal, so improve that dramatically and I would be thrilled not to have to use a plugin.

- Add the ability to easily add text to photos. I shoot lots of school sports, for example, and I have to export to CS3 to add school names to photos.

- Export and burn to CD is just weird in A3.

- Fix the watermark feature.

Personally, I really enjoy using A3 and I hope Apple continues to improve and support this product. I think with some more fixes and effort from Apple, this could easily become the go-to program for photographers. I like PhotoShop, I like LightRoom, but I LOVE A3. Just works so well for me...
 
All crucial:

1) Interactive MobileMe publishing so clients can select photos
2) Decent sharpening tool. Decent NR tool. They're a total joke right now.
3) Built in ftp support with compression.
4) Fix the printing problems.
5) Visual history tool ala LR/PS
6) no more Places and Faces candy.
 
robogobo said:
All crucial:

1) Interactive MobileMe publishing so clients can select photos
2) Decent sharpening tool. Decent NR tool. They're a total joke right now.
3) Built in ftp support with compression.
4) Fix the printing problems.
5) Visual history tool ala LR/PS
6) no more Places and Faces candy.
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A few comments/questions...

1) The workflow for clients would seem to be the least of MobileMe's photo hosting problems. The quality of photos uploaded to MobileMe seems terrible to me... Over compressed and soft. I wish Apple would invest in MobileMe as well, but first and foremost on making the photos presentable. You may want to have a look at Zenfolio. The quality is much better and they appear to have extensive workflow for clients, but I haven't used that (as an amateur). At any rate, MobileMe and photo hosting really has nothing to do with Aperture.

2) I'm curious what you would like here... maybe I'd like it too, but I don't know what I'm missing? :) As far as I can tell, and from what I've read, the "Sharpen" tool in Aperture is equivalent to the "Sharpen" function in Canon's DPP software (I don't know about Nikon's software) while the "Edge Sharpen" works identical to Unsharpen Mask in Photoshop. What's missing?

6) Both places and faces are easily disabled if you don't need them but there are a lot of situations I can imagine where having more metadata for your collection is better than less. I'd rather have the option than not. I just wish my camera had built-in GPS so I could take advantage of places. :(
 
Aperture Server

I would forgo all of the above for an image sharing ability. Seems that apple is moving in that direction on the consumer level, and FCP has had a project sharing ability for years. Our small office desperately needs a rock-solid way to access and edit the same images.
 
Earl Lee Dopter said:
I would forgo all of the above for an image sharing ability. Seems that apple is moving in that direction on the consumer level, and FCP has had a project sharing ability for years. Our small office desperately needs a rock-solid way to access and edit the same images.
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Seconded. Or maybe a server product for all media not just photos.
 
Earl Lee Dopter said:
I would forgo all of the above for an image sharing ability. Seems that apple is moving in that direction on the consumer level, and FCP has had a project sharing ability for years. Our small office desperately needs a rock-solid way to access and edit the same images.
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+1, this would make me buy a Mac Mini server!
 
tampaappleman said:
Hi folks,

it's great to read this wish list..there are so many good things that need to get implemented in A4.

However, if all of you post your input here than Apple will eventually listen:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/aperture.html

This forum is not going to change a thing !!!!
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Thanks for the tip!
My original list was indeed sent to Apple at the time of writing, but it would be useful if other professionals could chirp in. And there have been some additions to that list here...
Most notably to implement some kind of better library sharing across multiple stations. It'd be great, for example, to have my aperture libraries centralised on my main NAS drives and accessible by Aperture 4 from a laptop, desktop, 2nd laptop when necessary. Syncing libraries this way seems to be the way to go, with each computer happily coping with it's own prefs and UI changes etc. without disturbing the master file system.
 
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