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mine. after seeing some others I am wondering how long it will stay on 96%.
 

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86% after 105 cycles. You should go by hours of battery life rather than battery health percentage. If the battery drops below 3 hours, then a replacement is a good idea. Normally the battery lasts 6-7 hours when new.
 
Comparing health is meaningless. A week from now yours could be at 94% and nickphoto's could be at 89%. It fluctuates up and down over time.

Exactly. Unless it's a dramatic drop in health before 1000 cycles, comparing a battery's health is meaningless.

The chip that's keeping count of the cycles will disable your battery long before the actual cells wear out. It is programmed to start cutting down on capacity after the cycle number passes certain thresholds (1000 and greater), for safety reasons.
 
The chip that's keeping count of the cycles will disable your battery long before the actual cells wear out. It is programmed to start cutting down on capacity after the cycle number passes certain thresholds (1000 and greater), for safety reasons.
That's completely false. There are many whose batteries are still running fine after well over 1000 cycles. Just because it reaches 1000 cycles doesn't mean it's no longer a good battery.
 
That's completely false. There are many whose batteries are still running fine after well over 1000 cycles. Just because it reaches 1000 cycles doesn't mean it's no longer a good battery.

No, I didn't mean it will disable the battery at 1000, but it will gradually allow less power in when recharging. All "smart" batteries now have these chips to regulate the charging mechanism (trickling down in the last few % for example), and with cycle count threshholds programmed in them as well.

As cycle counts goes passed certain pre-set safety thresholds, the chip will regulate the charging accordingly and cut off the charge at lower capacities and can even render the battery inoperable (cannot be charged) when it reaches dangerous levels in terms of cycles, even if from a chemical standpoint it still has some capacity left.

I can't remember where I read about this. I'm looking for the article that explains this mechanism and how flashing the EEPROM and resetting the cycle count of dead batteries can bring them back to life again (but very dangerous to do so!).

I'll post a link when I find it.
 
No, I didn't mean it will disable the battery at 1000, but it will gradually allow less power in when recharging. All "smart" batteries now have these chips to regulate the charging mechanism (trickling down in the last few % for example), and with cycle count threshholds programmed in them as well.

As cycle counts become higher and higher passed certain safety thresholds, the chip will regulate the charging accordingly and cut off the charge at lower capacities and render the battery inoperable (cannot be charged) when it reaches dangerous levels in cycles.

I can't remember where I read about this. I'm looking for the article that explains this mechanism and how flashing the EEPROM and resetting the cycle count of dead batteries can bring them back to life again (but very dangerous to do so!).
I don't know where you read that, but it's not true about Apple batteries. There's no such thing as "dangerous levels in cycles."
 
how is yours 102 capacity ?
It is perfectly normal if your battery health (maximum capacity) is greater or less than 100% when new or if it fluctuates up or down over time. For further details, read the CHECKING STATUS AND HEALTH section of the Apple Notebook Battery FAQ.
 
I don't know where you read that, but it's not true about Apple batteries. There's no such thing as "dangerous levels in cycles."

Well I can't seem to find it. :( So I'll admit that I could be wrong or that I misunderstood what I read.

If I come across it again, I'll post it up.

*hides*
 
Well I can't seem to find it. :( So I'll admit that I could be wrong or that I misunderstood what I read.

If I come across it again, I'll post it up.

*hides*
No need to hide. If you find it, be sure to post it. There's a lot of misinformation out there. It would be interesting to know where such ideas get started.
 
No need to hide. If you find it, be sure to post it. There's a lot of misinformation out there. It would be interesting to know where such ideas get started.

Haha, well obviously that was just a joke. But yeah, I could swear I read that some integrated charge controllers had kill-switches based on cycles, as well as the standard monitors that are in place for things such as temps, voltages, etc. with regards to regulating the charging mechanism.
 
I purchased this laptop exactly 1 year ago...

What? 631 cycles in 1 year? Do you spend 24/7 on this machine?? Seems abnormally high? My MBP is 2 years old and I use it daily off the charger and I'm at 379 cycles and 87%.
 
cool last time I checked I had 96%
 

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What? 631 cycles in 1 year? Do you spend 24/7 on this machine?? Seems abnormally high? My MBP is 2 years old and I use it daily off the charger and I'm at 379 cycles and 87%.

No, I take my laptop everywhere I go and I use it on battery more than using it on AC since I'm not always near an outlet. Even if I am, normally I don't feel the need to plug it in just because there's an outlet.

Normally, the only time it's 100% charged it at night when I'm asleep
 
No, I take my laptop everywhere I go and I use it on battery more than using it on AC since I'm not always near an outlet. Even if I am, normally I don't feel the need to plug it in just because there's an outlet.

Normally, the only time it's 100% charged it at night when I'm asleep

Hmm.. I thought 1 cycle was = to a battery reaching full charge, in other words you must be charging too 100% 2 times per day to get 671 in 1 year?? Just put a new battery in my 13" MBP charged it full 1 time shows one cycle.
 

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Hmm.. I thought 1 cycle was = to a battery reaching full charge, in other words you must be charging too 100% 2 times per day to get 671 in 1 year?? Just put a new battery in my 13" MBP charged it full 1 time shows one cycle.
Read the WHAT IS A CYCLE? section of the following link. This should answer most, if not all, of your battery questions:
 
Hmm.. I thought 1 cycle was = to a battery reaching full charge, in other words you must be charging too 100% 2 times per day to get 671 in 1 year?? Just put a new battery in my 13" MBP charged it full 1 time shows one cycle.

Well, battery cycles for me isn't something I follow religiously. In fact, if you do have to follow it closely, you should probably find something else to do, no offense.

I just let it naturally be.
 
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My unibody alu mac is on 301 cycles at 92% health.

Wasn't those ment to be 300 cycle batteries??
 
Thanks for the link.:eek:

Ok based on this information 1 charge cycle = expending the full capacity of the battery. 621 cycles still seems odd in 1 year.
that works out to about 1.7 cycles a day. While that may be high for many users, it's not unusual.
My unibody alu mac is on 301 cycles at 92% health.
Wasn't those ment to be 300 cycle batteries??
Read the BATTERY LIFESPAN section of the Battery FAQ.
 
Well, battery cycles for me isn't something I follow religiously. In fact, if you do have to follow it closely, you should probably find something else to do, no offense.

I just let it naturally be.

None taken.

I agree, but when your once 6-8 hour battery only holds a charge for 2 hours... well it's something that gets your attention and you might want to check out how many cycles it's been through!
 
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