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Why does apple always make older devices less and less useful! Its like they want you to buy their new... oh wait whoops!


Apple definitely wants you to buy new but does not seem to understand that new is not necessarily Apple branded :)
 
I wish MacTubes would release an iPad app...My Gen 1 iPad is going to get a lot less useful this May.

Considering the desktop app hasn't been updated in more than 2 years, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting.

This whole thing is seriously disappointing because for my son's "screen time" he uses my wife's old iPhone 4S with iOS 6 and the Jasmine app. It's been working perfectly for a long time. I will jailbreak the device before I update it to iOS 8 and/or be forced to use the official YT client app.
 
Why do people leave comments like this? Stating the obvious in the most non-helpful way possible. Does it make you feel good about yourself to do this? I don't get it.

Yes. Yes it does.

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Because of an API change? That's a pretty lousy reason.

A good reason would be some new streaming format that the hardware can't decode quickly enough.

Anything to get you buy more hardware I guess.
 
Youtube changed the API. After that, it's up to the writers of the apps to update them, assuming there's a way to distribute them. Right?

On iOS there's a way to distribute them. It's called the App Store. So, the ball is in Google's court. The decision not to publish a YouTube app that will work in iOS 6 is theirs and theirs alone. If they wrote one, Apple would gladly approve it and put it in the App Store.

On AppleTV I think the ball is in Apple's court. Apple for some reason won't push out any more updates to ATV2, even if Google were to write one.
 
No big deal, I mean how many people are on devices that old?
Plenty, there hasn't been a worthy upgrade for the AppleTV yet.

Apple just recently even pushed HBO Now to my AppleTV2. It's still 'current'. Still getting all the new channels.

720p vs 1080p on the new one is a big bag of meh. It's not even remotely worth the time required to re-setup all the accounts.

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In all fairness, Apple TV 2nd generation is nearly 5 years old product with A4 processor and 256MB RAM. Apple updated its OS for 4 years, which I think is more than reasonable.

IMO, Google is more of a blame, although I suspect it didn't get enough usage from 2nd generation Apple TV to warrant continuing support.
This old API doesn't support advertising. Google doesn't get as much revenue. They are axing the API to stop the free rides.

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Youtube changed the API. After that, it's up to the writers of the apps to update them, assuming there's a way to distribute them. Right?

On iOS there's a way to distribute them. It's called the App Store. So, the ball is in Google's court. The decision not to publish a YouTube app that will work in iOS 6 is theirs and theirs alone. If they wrote one, Apple would gladly approve it and put it in the App Store.

On AppleTV I think the ball is in Apple's court. Apple for some reason won't push out any more updates to ATV2, even if Google were to write one.
They pushed out an update just a few weeks ago adding HBO Now.

That didn't require a new OS build... which presumably a new YouTube app might.
 
Well, I just opened the Youtube app on my iPad 4th gen running iOS6 and it played the ad, then played my video. No warning video came up.
 
Well, I just opened the Youtube app on my iPad 4th gen running iOS6 and it played the ad, then played my video. No warning video came up.

If it's still available, grab Jasmine from the app store, put it on that same iPad, and try a video. See what you get there.

BL.
 
No big deal, I mean how many people are on devices that old?

I'm still using my ATV2. Many people still are. This won't make me buy a newer model any time sooner. I think I used the YouTube app two times since using my ATV2 for the first time last summer.
 
So, the ball is in Google's court. The decision not to publish a YouTube app that will work in iOS 6 is theirs and theirs alone. If they wrote one, Apple would gladly approve it and put it in the App Store.
Come on dude. How many developers are still targeting ios6 these days? You really expect Google to come out with a special version of their app to support it?
 
I pity more your 4 year old son for having to watch his stories on an iPad! In my days my parents read them from a book for me, or I was drawing with pen and paper, playing outside...

Your son will have a very "2D view" of his childhood... poor kiddie!

You are rude and have a very "2d view" of life. Poor you.
 
Come on dude. How many developers are still targeting ios6 these days? You really expect Google to come out with a special version of their app to support it?

Do I expect them to? I didn't say that.

What I said is, the reason the app doesn't exist is a decision Google made. I didn't say it was the right or wrong decision. Just clarifying who made it.
 
Interesting how many claim this is somehow about Apple, since it is solely about Google breaking services that circumvent the "pure Google experience". No more ad skipping, downloading, avoiding log in or even use of the back button. Anyone who imagines that Google is their friend suffers from Stockhlom Syndrome. The original iOS maps and yootoob apps were written by Apple, but Google didn't want to play that game any more since Apple refused to supply user data. Google even pulled their search service from the tomtom apps three years ago and people still abuse tomtom. Better get busy downloading stuff off yootoob you want to keep while you still can.
 
They pushed out an update just a few weeks ago adding HBO Now.

That didn't require a new OS build... which presumably a new YouTube app might.

As I understand it the "channels" that Apple can push out to the apple tv are essentially fancy web site front ends and so can be added to the home screen without any need for a software update - I would assume there is an apple maintained URL somewhere that the atv phones home for every so often which contains the channel lists / icon details / etc. The youtube app seems to be an actual app rather than one of these web front end channels so would need an iOS update to update it, and given that the atv 2 is still on iOS7 due to it's A4 CPU and only 256Mb ram there is 0% chance of it getting an update to fix this.
 
Interesting how many claim this is somehow about Apple, since it is solely about Google breaking services that circumvent the "pure Google experience".

My Apple complaint is very specific. They have done an update to support YouTube on the ATV3, but not the ATV2. Clearly, they could - I presume Apple isn't so incompetent to have lost ATV2's source.
 
Crazy

They must be crazy to think I want to pay 9$ per month to not get ads in my cat videos.
 
Aren't new or updated API's part of a new version of iOS?

Nope. The new iOS leave the responsibility to Google. Who publish a YouTube App through the App Store. In older iOS versions, Apple took the responsibility of a YouTube App themselves. And now they're ditching that responsibility because the software and hardware in question is legacy in their eyes. I find it surprising that people can defend Apple over this. This totally lousy software support is pathetic in my eyes. Microsoft do a much much better job of this, making their products last longer.
 
It's both Apple and Google's fault. However, I understand the need to update APIs. I do not understand Apple's obsession with dropping software support pretty much one year after said software is released.

Actually I do understand it. Apple want more £ for doing less.

That does not appear to be happening in this case.
 
On AppleTV I think the ball is in Apple's court. Apple for some reason won't push out any more updates to ATV2, even if Google were to write one.

When you write "for some reason" it assumes nefarious reasons for Apple's move. I don't think such nefariousness needs to be the reason for Apple's decision here. For years, people complained about the slowness of the A4 chip in the ATV2, wanting Apple to update it to make the experience smoother.

When Apple did, bringing out the A5-equipped ATV3, the experience was smoother, both in playback, and in the GUI. It also allowed them to offer 1080p playback. Whatever updates and changes to their YT app Google has made, it's affected many more users than just iOS and ATV devices. My hunch is that, in this case, Apple has tested to see if they can unbreak the broken YT player in ATV2 and on iOS 5 etc, and it doesn't work at all, or doesn't work well. From a customer satisfaction standpoint, there's not reason for them to not at least try. My guess is that the player either won't work, or the viewing experience while using it would make users want it to NOT work.

My 2 cents.

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Come on dude. How many developers are still targeting ios6 these days? You really expect Google to come out with a special version of their app to support it?

On the Windows side, Windows 7 (two OSs back counting 10) is still routinely supported.
 
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