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I was all ready to pay extra for this, but this price is absurd just to watch my local team only. Ever since the switch to DTV I can’t get OTA broadcasts at my house, and I live in a college town of about 150K. My local team, the Chiefs, are about 100 miles away where I grew up. So I guess I will continue to use pirate streams, which suck and are unreliable! Unless they make it an add-on for YouTube Premium. Otherwise I have to sign up for streaming services from multiple broadcasters to watch locally. We don’t watch much TV.

Too many Apple-fans believing this would have been a free addition. There is no way they'd have plopped down $2 billion per year and not added a big additional price to get it. Normally Sunday Ticket has been about $400 per year.
I don’t care if it was a paid add-on, it wouldn’t have required me to sign up for a $65/mo service I won’t use plus an add-on cost on top of it! Will probably be at least $80/mo.
 
That’s because baseball is NOWHERE near as popular.

Actually, if we're talking about revenue generated, the three major sports leagues are pretty darn close to one another: NFL generated $11B in 2021, NBA $10B, and MLB $11B.

32 teams in the NFL, 30 teams in NBA & MLB.

Also worth noting, NBA's "League Pass" is $14.99/month, which works out to about $105 for their seven-ish month season (Oct-Apr).
 
This is gross. NFL Sunday Ticket already costs an absurd amount of money through DirecTV (what, 300+ a season?) and, except in very limited circumstances (college students, mostly), you have to have a DirecTV subscription to subscribe to Sunday Ticket (so 60+ a month, minimum, with a two year contract, plus 300+).

Nothing changes, except for the 2 year contract requirement - maybe, I could see Google requiring a contract for YouTubeTV. It's still an absurd amount of money, with no standalone package.

MLB has a standalone package that's absolutely wonderful and reasonably priced. This just makes me hate the NFL more than I already do.
I had similar thoughts, but you’ve captured it. I’m worried the NFL might reach a point where they price themselves out of mainstream viewing (and fans) like boxing did in the ‘90’s through pay-per-view. But bravo for Apple for trying. I’m surprised how quickly a $64.99/month service I had never heard of before picked this up.
 
I don’t care if it was a paid add-on, it wouldn’t have required me to sign up for a $65/mo service I won’t use plus an add-on cost on top of it! Will probably be at least $80/mo.
Well of course, they're not just going to let you sign up just for the Sunday Ticket. The entire reason these companies are fighting over who gets it is because they want to use it to bring MORE to their service. Selling just access to the Sunday Ticket alone doesn't make them much. They're doing it to get you to buy their normal service PLUS the NFL package on top of it.
 
I only watch Tom Brady, and only if he is winning. I will watch some playoff games but probably not the super bowl (too many commercials). After hearing that, Tim Cook decided to pull out of the deal. /s
 
This is gross. NFL Sunday Ticket already costs an absurd amount of money through DirecTV (what, 300+ a season?) and, except in very limited circumstances (college students, mostly), you have to have a DirecTV subscription to subscribe to Sunday Ticket (so 60+ a month, minimum, with a two year contract, plus 300+).

Nothing changes, except for the 2 year contract requirement - maybe, I could see Google requiring a contract for YouTubeTV. It's still an absurd amount of money, with no standalone package.

MLB has a standalone package that's absolutely wonderful and reasonably priced. This just makes me hate the NFL more than I already do.
I'm gonna feel it. I call every August and renegotiate my DirecTV/AT&T Internet package. I commit to 12months and if they don't offer ST for free, then I just ask and they always throw it in. I pay $150/month, and I doubt that I will get that good of a deal on my internet if I cancel DTV. The only good thing about this is DTV limits my ST app to one login at a time, so if my son is at his mom's house and I'm away from my DTV box, one of us can't watch ST, hopefully, YT allows multiple logins.
 
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YouTube has won the rights to the NFL Sunday Ticket after negotiations and a deal between the NFL and Apple failed to fully materialize, Google and the NFL announced today.

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According to a report by The Wall Street Journal, YouTube will pay roughly $2 billion a year to secure the rights to the NFL Sunday Ticket franchise as part of its YouTube TV service. NFL Sunday Ticket is a package that allows users to access and watch all Sunday games from out-of-market teams for games that may not be broadcasted on local channels or affiliates.

NFL Sunday Ticket will be offered as an add-on for YouTube TV, which currently costs $64.99 per month. The exact price of the add-on remains unknown. Neal Mohan, chief product officer at YouTube, speaking of the new deal, said "we'll be able to showcase these NFL games in a way that I think no other platform can."

Apple was originally seen as the top contender for securing the rights to NFL Sunday Ticket, with reports at one point suggesting Apple and the NFL had reached a final agreement. According to a new report this week by The Athletic, the agreement didn't go through due to apparent concerns at Cupertino that it wouldn't be able to incorporate NFL Sunday Ticket into its future AR/VR platforms.
While YouTube will offer NFL Sunday Ticket as an add-on for YouTube, Apple reportedly wanted to offer NFL Sunday Ticket to Apple TV+ subscribers at no additional cost.


Apple, you saved a lot of money … please now pursue buying the rights to the UEFA championsleague Football-played-with-feet and round ⚽️ competition.



Article Link: YouTube Secures Deal for NFL Sunday Ticket After Apple Drops Out of Negotiations
 
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I honestly didn't see that coming... Apple passing, and Google getting instead.

I read up that Apple didn't want to pay $3.5 billion for it. Even though they can definitely afford it, it just seemed too pricy none of the less. Another issue is there were all sorts of conditions that Apple didn't want to adhere to (like blackout dates?). For better and for worse, Apple can be a control freak, but both sides didn't want to play ball there (no pun intended).

But now Google gets it for $2 billion? I guess the NFL realized they set the price too high with Apple and lowered it to something more attractive as to not lose out on future sales?
 
Ouch! A bit embarrassing for Apple. Having said that, 2 billion for just one sport is a lot of money and I’m sure they’ll look into others.
Not at all. Whoever led Apple on this deal (I wish they had landed it) did what a good business person is supposed when you can't reach a deal within the hard perimeters set by your boss or a Board of Directors. You say we are done here and stand up and walk.
 
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I read that Sunday Ticket costs $300 a year. Absolutely not!!!
It always has cost about $300. The price is nothing new.

The price will not scare anyone whop is a NFL fan. Do you know what it costs to go see a game in most cities? Buy tickets in the upper deck, drive (or public transportation if available) to stadium, eat, buy some beers, drive home, pay tolls, gasoline, etc. = more than $300. Take your partner or kids? Multiply ticket, food and beer by the number of people.

Still doesn't make economic sense to you at $300 or so for a full year with and all 32 teams (16 games a week for 17 weeks)?
 
For the last two years I’ve gotten Sunday Ticket for no additional cost. But I’m a DirecTV satellite subscriber and AT&T is my mobile provider. Hopefully YT will offer it as a stand alone product and it won’t be ridiculously expensive.
 
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It always has cost about $300. The price is nothing new.
Well… not entirely accurate. When the service debuted in the mid 90s (I don’t remember the exact year) it was $99. It went up from there over the years. I was really hoping that if Apple got it that’s what they would charge. I’m concerned that Google will keep the $300-$450 a season price because that is what the NFL wants.
 
This just isn't true. I have tried multiple years in a row to get Sunday Ticket stand alone, but because I can get directv at my house, they will not sell it to me standalone.

From their mouths. I need to be a college student or live in a location where directv is not offered. It also states this on their terms.
I’ve had Sunday ticket as a stand-alone for 4 years already through my Apple TV. I don’t have Directv.
 
Thank goodness. I didn’t see this as good business for Apple. The NFL nowadays is trash.
 
This is just for 2023 correct? That’s what I read. So then it can change to another provider in 2024.
 
Where is that? I refuse to subscribe to Sky just for F1 (£70 minimum per month), and Spanish coverage is dire…. Alonso Sainz Alonso Hamilton Sainz Alonso Sainz Alonso Sainz Verstappen Alonso Sainz Alonso Alonso Sainz, etc….
Just go to their webpage
 
:rolleyes: That's not why people get it. Ask a football fan if they'd rather see their favorite team in-person or watch them on TV at home and you'll find almost no one that'd rather watch at home.

That's a really poor comparison. It's like saying that it's cheaper to buy a book about Paris than travel there and see it yourself.
I so disagree with this sentiment. Most NFL fans do not go to games. Most sports fans do not go to games. Viewership is in the millions, attendance per team is below 100,000. Do the math. I love football and tennis. I go to see both sports live once or twice a year. I watch them every week.
Apple users don’t really watch sports since they’re generally productive and value their time
I'm hoping this is sarcasm. Since the NFL accounts for the top 5 or 6 shows each week, that would mean there aren't many Apple users out there.
 
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damn… what a partnership it would’ve been for Apple and NFL. at least Apple Music still has the Super Bowl Halftime Show.

Apple’s tech and innovation and future products would’ve meshed so nicely with Sunday Ticket. especially if it was included in the existing price.

HOWEVER… it’s all good at the end of the day. I can still stream any game by other means without signing up for Sunday Ticket.
 
:rolleyes: That's not why people get it. Ask a football fan if they'd rather see their favorite team in-person or watch them on TV at home and you'll find almost no one that'd rather watch at home.
I've been to my share of NFL games including the Orange Bowl and to see the Raiders in Oakland back in the early 80's and a few more games after that. The NFL became popular because the game is a perfect fit for TV. IRL, a football isn't that big but on TV it looks like 3x the size. You can also get close ups on TV unless you bring binoculars to the game.

Also seating is an issue unless you are paying top dollar for 50 yd line seats and that two depends on the level. I much rather watch an NFL game at home than going to the game. There's also the mugging you get by paying for parking, having to deal with traffic, paying 4-5x for food. Nope, I prefer watching it on a flat screen TV.
 
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