Dave Lee is actually the second video/user to show the throttling. This guy found the exact same thing. Skip to 4:40, when the carnage starts.
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YouTuber Claims 15-Inch MacBook Pro With Upgraded Core i9 Chip is Severely Throttled Due to Thermal Issues
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Dave Lee is actually the second video/user to show the throttling. This guy found the exact same thing. Skip to 4:40, when the carnage starts.
Yeah, I stopped thinking of the Macbook Pro as a "pro" device when they came out with the Touchbar-required models last year; I press "escape" a lot while using my machine and the touchbad version of the key is dumb. The butterfly keyboard feels like crap, I don't like the "haptic" trackpad, they stopped making nice matte screens and everything is glossy and glare-y.
Basically I'm not planning to buy any more Mac Laptops since they've been getting worse and worse in recent years. Writing this on a Windows laptop; probably will switch to a Linux box going forward.
Basically I'm not planning to buy any more Mac Laptops since they've been getting worse and worse in recent years. Writing this on a Windows laptop; probably will switch to a Linux box going forward.
To be fair, @teething1 ran a similar test with similar results earlier in this thread, so two data points.
Did the youtuber try adding more or a different type of thermal paste as a potential solution?
Regardless of what someone on youtube found/claimed, what about any of the owners of this model on the forum? Must be quite a few who post on the forums who bought the same spec.
Regardless of what someone on youtube found/claimed, what about any of the owners of this model on the forum? Must be quite a few who post on the forums who bought the same spec.
Refunds for what? It has Core i9 inside! No refunds for bragging rights.
P.S. Only kidding.
There should be no difference, but there clearly is lately. Between the sub-heatspreader paste and the iffy TDP ratings, things aren't good on the Intel side lately. Also, if Premiere is using AVX instructions, it will definitely clock down. Most of the current desktop BIOS now have a negative clock offset options for AVX instructions, otherwise it's pretty easy to hit 100C and throttle the CPU.. and that's on full desktop.
As several mentioned, I realize there is no heatspresder on mobile dies, just a general comment about the recent Intel garbage.
To be honest, I only had a glancing look at teething1’s results but it looked like it went right around base clock?
Once again Apple's obsession with form over function has seriously impeded the reliability and performance of their products.
Apple's new 15-inch MacBook Pro can be upgraded to include a 6-core 2.9GHz Intel Core i9 processor that has demonstrated impressive performance, but one YouTuber is warning customers away from purchasing it with claims that the MacBook Pro chassis can't provide sufficient cooling for it to run at full speed.
Dave Lee this afternoon shared a new video on the Core i9 MacBook Pro he purchased, and according to his testing, the new machine is unable to maintain even its base clock speed after just a short time doing processor intensive work like video editing.
"This CPU is an unlocked, overclockable chip but all of that CPU potential is wasted inside this chassis -- or more so the thermal solution that's inside here," says Lee.
He goes on to share some Premiere Pro render times that suggest the new 2018 MacBook Pro with Core i9 chip underperforms compared to a 2017 model with a Core i7 chip. It took 39 minutes for the 2018 MacBook Pro to render a video that the older model was able to render in 35 minutes. Premiere Pro is not well-optimized for macOS, but the difference between the two MacBook Pro models is notable.
Lee ran the same test again with the 2018 MacBook Pro in the freezer, and in cooler temperatures, the i9 chip was able to offer outstanding performance, cutting that render time down to 27 minutes and beating out the 2017 MacBook Pro.
As Lee points out, thermal throttling is in no way unusual and it's seen in all manner of laptops and mobile devices from a range of manufacturers, but he says that "this degree" of thermal throttling is "unacceptable."It's not clear if there's something wrong with the MacBook Pro with Core i9 chip that Lee received, because this kind of throttling is likely something Apple would have tested for and not something that other users have reported at this point.
Because this is just one data point, it's not enough information to reach a conclusion about the i9 chip available for the 15-inch MacBook Pro, but additional testing will certainly follow to shed more light on Lee's video.
Article Link: YouTuber Claims 15-Inch MacBook Pro With Upgraded Core i9 Chip is Severely Throttled Due to Thermal Issues
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I see nothing wrong with this.
I guess users prefer their CPU to burn.
Only a small number of devices.
People always complain.
Lawyers looking for money.
We did tell customers.
Apple is working on a switch like in iOS, stop complaining and enjoy your burning mac.
am I missing any of the classics used around here?
I guess users prefer their CPU to burn.
Only a small number of devices.
People always complain.
Lawyers looking for money.
We did tell customers.
Apple is working on a switch like in iOS, stop complaining and enjoy your burning mac.
am I missing any of the classics used around here?
The big question is what laptop can perform better at the moment? He mentioned that dell xps 15 has the same problem. According to his results, Aero 15x seemed better. Is that a better replacement than the macbook? Or all thin and light laptops with i9 face the same issue?
That’s correct. Just at or slightly below base clock speed when under sustained 100% utilization. This is abnormal behavior for MacBook Pros. Some throttling is to be expected but not to less than base click speed.
If I was doing heavy rendering, it would not be on a laptop.
Apparently one laptop that can perform better at the moment is the 2017 quad core MBP.
That’s the problem.
It’s very possible there’s a problem there. I don’t really have a dog in the fight and I’m no ADF member. I would however like to Anandtech and co do actual benchmark work before I jump to any conclusion.
This wasn't a test video and he said as much. This was pretty clearly a chastise Dell video. He questioned their logic in putting the i9 in the XPS15 chassis. He also said they have no excuse for the throttling because they've had 3 iterations to get the thermals right. So they have no excuse for the current situation. He said it nicely, but he crawled up into Dell's butt... just a li'l bit.
Except there is a 14 day return. His sensationalism erred he should have waited
What kind of response is this really? Under any kind of high load the system throttles. Not just rendering but any kind of heavy work. The chip in these laptops is incredibly fast, it is not conceivable to you that people would like to actually use the power they paid for?
If Apple cannot cool a six core chip they shouldn't sell one, period.
I checked the tsp of 47 or 45 watts, same as my 2014 mob and it never runs super hot. But I do run it like a laptop not a workstation. I also heard the dells had this problem. And you could fry a steak on the razers