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For me the original was the best design, considering the times. I'm really sad I don't still have mine but it got bent in half when I slipped carrying my baby daughter down the stairs (she was fine). The 3g that replaced it never felt like as good an Apple industrial design with its soap bar plastic back. That original UI was pure magic, the number of people that picked up mine for the first time and just scrolled up and down looking at menus etc. Seeing their faces light up and how incredible it was in 2007, Amazing.

Personally I really miss a deeper UI, not the worst excesses of skeuomorphism, but a richer feel with more depth, to me is just how the human brain (at least mine) responds better to touching a 2 dimensional surface. Although I think Jony Ive is the greatest product designer of the late 20th, early 21st century I don't agree with his flat UI designs and thoughts

Thank you! I don’t know why we can’t have a richer interface. The flat design has slightly matured and looks ok, but these phones have such high pixel density and vibrant screens. Why must everything be flat and 2D?

Skeuomorphism should come back. Not as extreme and tacky as it was, but in a nice new updated format.
 
faceID
In-display fingerprint sensors
In-display front facing cameras
Neural engines in processors
Edge to edge displays
Stacked motherboards
5g
Ultrawide band
Sonar sensors
Squeeze sensors
Reverse wireless charging
90/120 hz displays on mobile
Time of flight sensors in cameras
Folding display phones
Etc.

All within the last quarter of your 12 year period. I’m sorry that you have a high bar for what counts as “innovation,” but the rest of us are happy to see companies continue to innovate

If you invent something, then you are by definition innovating. Not if you‘re adopting/licensing/integrating technology into a housing of a known device classifier.

Say if there‘s only been wireless charging as a base concept/function and you slam two of those units together to create reverse charging, then you are in some way innovating because you changed the nature of that tech.

Adding sensors, cameras, stacking boards, buying faster modems (?) etc. does not involve innovating. You can however say that Apple advanced facial recognition and highly influenced the market with its adoption and stellar software/hardware integration of that tech. And they‘re (arguably) still the pioneers of the smartphone engineering market and lead in other areas where others failed (AirPods, smartwatches etc.)
 
I still have my OG iPhone. I’ve sold all subsequent models but I’ll never this.

I remember finally getting my hands on it at launch and being blown away by how accurate multi touch was and having the actual full internet in my hands on it. Before that it was WAP and it was just a bunch of links to click on a page.
 
faceID
In-display fingerprint sensors
In-display front facing cameras
Neural engines in processors
Edge to edge displays
Stacked motherboards
5g
Ultrawide band
Sonar sensors
Squeeze sensors
Reverse wireless charging
90/120 hz displays on mobile
Time of flight sensors in cameras
Folding display phones
Etc.

All within the last quarter of your 12 year period. I’m sorry that you have a high bar for what counts as “innovation,” but the rest of us are happy to see companies continue to innovate
Those folding display phones really went over well :rolleyes:🙃
 
So reconfirmed that tech evolves and develops over time. Well that's new. 🤦‍♂️
 
are you casually forgetting HTC and their smartphones like the TyTN2 etc? pre-iphone.
Not at all. But let’s face it they were a bit horrible to use. I also had many years before the the Motorola A1000, I think that was the model. There were many but it was all over the place and not used friendly.
 
that iphone survived really well, its not old tech. You probably can get by using it if they released the software for it like twitter and youtube. The photos look decent enough for me, doesn't have to be 4K HDR WIDE ANGLE or anything.

imagine how long the battery will last given the size of that enclosure.

Wow, I really miss the old iOS design. Look how easy it was to find functions!

Yes, we all miss Steve...
 
Who would have thought Microsoft could shake up the game console industry.

They never did, though. They just became another player in the market, essentially replacing Sega. Sony were the ones who shook up the industry, coming from nowhere and quickly starting to dominate it. Nothing would've been different if MS never entered the market, Sony and Nintendo would've been the same as they are now.
 
What's pathetic isn't watching youtube @1080p on iOS. It's the fact apple still selling devices with 720p/800p displays.

How much difference will one see on such small phones with more than ~720p? How much would any barely discernible improvement be worth over decreased battery life?
 
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Another interesting comparison would be between the original iPhone and the current Apple Watch. Apart from not having a camera, the Watch is streets ahead.
 
As MKBHD points out, the comparison between the original iPhone and the iPhone 11 Pro is also interesting because it leaves us imagining what kind of technology changes we might be seeing in another 12 years.

Not really when you consider phones and technology haven't changed much in the last 5-6 years. The biggest advances over the past 12 years were front-loaded in the early years of the period.
Let's less in the past 5-6 years we've got ... LTE, 4K, Cameras that can replace a dslr, facial/touch recognition, privacy/security improvements, an App for just about anything... don't forget all the improvements we can't see directly just processing power alone is a huge advance
 
It’s so little and cute. My first iPhone was the 4s, still have it and it works however slowly because updates slowed it down. I keep it for nostalgia really and I still admire how it feels in the hand. Today Im on an iPhone 8 and find it hard to move up in size.
 
Can we just call him by his name instead of calling him “Youtuber” in the title?

How many people are going to know him by name? This is nothing unusual, his Youtube name is mentioned in the first sentence. Unless you are talking about a person with widespread name recognition the headline will frequently say "Apple executive", "Microsoft employee", "Star Wars actor", etc. in order to give context to the story. Their position is much more recognizable than themselves as a person.
 
How many people are going to know him by name? This is nothing unusual, his Youtube name is mentioned in the first sentence. Unless you are talking about a person with widespread name recognition the headline will frequently say "Apple executive", "Microsoft employee", "Star Wars actor", etc. in order to give context to the story. Their position is much more recognizable than themselves as a person.
You can say Youtuber Marques Brownlee and the title would be much more impactful without alienating people who don't know him
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If you invent something, then you are by definition innovating. Not if you‘re adopting/licensing/integrating technology into a housing of a known device classifier.

Say if there‘s only been wireless charging as a base concept/function and you slam two of those units together to create reverse charging, then you are in some way innovating because you changed the nature of that tech.

Adding sensors, cameras, stacking boards, buying faster modems (?) etc. does not involve innovating. You can however say that Apple advanced facial recognition and highly influenced the market with its adoption and stellar software/hardware integration of that tech. And they‘re (arguably) still the pioneers of the smartphone engineering market and lead in other areas where others failed (AirPods, smartwatches etc.)

Your argument is based on a false definition of innovation. Invention and innovation are not the same thing, that’s why they‘re different words. When apple added an accelerometer to the original iphone they invented nothing, but nonetheless innovated on the user experience
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For those who don’t follow techtubers, I think it helps to give some context. Otherwise they’d all be going, MBK-who???

PS I don’t watch techtubers, though I know in general who MBK is and that he has a lot of subscribers.

Is he one of those guys who always has the thumbnails where they have some kind of crazy look on their face, are always doing some weird pose with their hands?

Haha no, he isn’t known for clickbait thumbnails, but he is known for incredibly high quality videography
 
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In the late 90's and early to mid 00's folding phones were most certainly a thing, a rather big thing, but hard to say if they will ever become one again.

‘Yes, and touchscreens solved the problem of physical buttons, scrolling and navigations of those flip phones. It simplified the devices and made them as minimal as possible. Foldable phones are a step backwards. Those who are easily swayed by gimmicks are myopic.
 
I really hope that one day we can go back to a similar design language as iOS 6 and earlier. Everything felt tangible and real. Unlike now where everything just feels... sterile.
 
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“Tiny screen”.

I remember comments in 2007. “That screen is HUGE. Who’s going to carry that around?”
Yeah, those saying that were tech reviewers and bloggers. The same demo now proclaiming that folding screens are the future. Wrong again.
 
In poorer countries, people are using standard phones to trade by texting and paying; no need for smart phones.

Some countries don't like cameras on devices. Which some services are possible like trade by texting or paying these services are more appealing on smart devices. It's like WAP browser on flip phones and the pre-iPhone BlackBerry devices, etc. It was possible to surf the web but not the most appealing.

For example I can use an iPad to do the similar tasks as a desktop or laptop, however do I really want to as the appeal and convenience of a laptop far exceeds what can be accomplished on any tablet may it be Android or iPadOS.
 
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