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What does the competition offer for the price?

I honestly don't know... if other Android phones are offering 64GB versions, you might see that with the iPhone. If just about all higher-end Androids come with 32GB, then Apple won't do it just yet.

There is no other smartphone in existence that offers more than 16 GB internally other than the iPhone. HOWEVER, they almost all offer a microSD slot that allows you to buy 32 GB microSD cards, which means that almost all have the potential of greater than 32 GB on the phone at once. Given that the microSD card is very small and removeable, you can certainly carry an additional 32 GB in your pocket if you want to, for a total of 64+ GB of easily accessible storage. The iPhone does not gives us this option, that's why it needs 64 GB internally to be comparable.

Tony
 
Definitely want a 64GB iPhone. Why? So the 32GB one will come down in price :p

But seriously, being stuck with 16GBs isn't great. You people who are wanting 64GB are spoilt :D
 
I would bank on the fact that Apple will never ever (yes, I use absolute words) add a microSD slot. It's for exactly the same reason they don't use standard microUSB for their iDevices, and don't have VGA or DVI out on their MacBook lineups. They wish to remain in control every aspect of the device. They don't give you the option to add a might-be-good-might-not-be microUSB stick which has the potential to wreck the experience of iPhone. Also think of how many people would buy a 16GB instead of a 32GB and save $100 if they knew they could spend $40 and get a good 16GB microSD card and have the same space. Apple would much rather have that extra $100 in pocket than allow for $40 to go to someone else's pocket.

People who buy iPhones will continue to buy iPhones in spite of the lack of standard things like microUSB and microSD. Why? Because Apple hits the mark on so many other things, and they know people won't run to alternatives. Apple does control their devices, but they do it well - as clearly indicated by their ever-growing and gigantic bank account and record sales.

As for 64GB, I definitely hope so. I kinda think that might be the iPhone after iPhone 5, but we all like to dream :) If there's a company that could put 64GB onboard space onto a phone, I'd say Apple definitely could, but they only will if they think it'll be profitable.
 
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I would bank on the fact that Apple will never ever (yes, I use absolute words) add a microSD slot. It's for exactly the same reason they don't use standard microUSB for their iDevices, and don't have VGA or DVI out on their MacBook lineups. They wish to remain in control every aspect of the device. They don't give you the option to add a might-be-good-might-not-be microUSB stick which has the potential to wreck the experience of iPhone. Also think of how many people would buy a 16GB instead of a 32GB and save $100 if they knew they could spend $40 and get a good 16GB microSD card and have the same space. Apple would much rather have that extra $100 in pocket than allow for $40 to go to someone else's pocket.

People who buy iPhones will continue to buy iPhones in spite of the lack of standard things like microUSB and microSD. Why? Because Apple hits the mark on so many other things, and they know people won't run to alternatives. Apple does control their devices, but they do it well - as clearly indicated by their ever-growing and gigantic bank account and record sales.

As for 64GB, I definitely hope so. I kinda think that might be the iPhone after iPhone 5, but we all like to dream :) If there's a company that could put 64GB onboard space onto a phone, I'd say Apple definitely could, but they only will if they think it'll be profitable.

I see this to a point. However, I'm more inclined to think that they don't add it in for technical/space reasons. It may have been removable batteries...I'm not sure...but he (I think it was Jobs) said that if they add this particular feature, it takes up too much space in the phone. Think about it...if they added in an SD card reader, then all of the magic that's crammed inside the phone would have to be shifted around to accommodate...which ends up making the phone bigger.

Or they're just being oppressive.
 
If they don't offer 64 GB, then I'm most likely not getting one. That's the only (potential) new feature I am remotely excited about. I'm very happy with my iPhone 4. Other than the fact that it doesn't have enough space for all of my music, it does everything I need it to do. If they do offer a 64 GB model, I'll almost certainly upgrade.
 
I'm very happy with my iPhone 4. Other than the fact that it doesn't have enough space for all of my music, it does everything I need it to do.
I said the same thing about my iPhone 3GS (lol), and now have an iPhone 4. Apple knows what you want even more than you know yourself. That said, I see your point. iPhone 4 is definitely the best option (IMO) on the market, even now, over a year after its initial release. Better battery life, better interface, better optimization, better/more apps, and better screen than any other I have personally come across. I can't really think of a whole lot that Apple could do to make me want to trade my iPhone 4 for the next-gen device. Dual core processors and double RAM mean nothing if the device doesn't work better. (talking about the latest android smartphones)
 
64 GB is possible if they make 64 GB flash chips at a fair price. The iPhone can only take one flash chip, while the iPod Touch can take two, which is why the iPod Touch can go up to 64 GB...
 
I said the same thing about my iPhone 3GS (lol), and now have an iPhone 4.

Same thing happened to me. :D

However, I really do beleive that THIS time, I need to get either a 4"+ screen and / or 64 GB otherwise I will not upgrade. I really think I mean it this time. :)

Tony
 
Hoping for 32GB ($199) and 64GB ($299) option. Doubt it with happen, especially with Apple pushing this iCloud service.
 
A guy at work has an Android phone with 128MB onboard, and a 16GB SD card. He runs out of storage every single day, because everything installs on the tiny internal storage instead of the SD card, and many of the apps can't be moved. Sometimes an incoming text message is enough to overrun the storage and make it crash. In addition to this, it seems to try to use the 128MB - or the kilobyte or so that is spare - as virtual memory when it runs out of RAM, and then when it runs out of virtual memory, it crashes. Several times a day.

Of course, Apple could come up with a much better way of using removable storage, but it seems the best way of all - from a usability and stability perspective - is simply not to allow removable storage.

I like to carry all my music with me, which with 5,434 songs, doesn't leave much room for anything else. I would definitely buy 64GB, almost regardless of the cost. I think it's inevitable that storage will increase, probably this year.
 
Hoping For 64 As Well

I am with the original poster on this one. This was actually the reason that I refused to upgrade my 3Gs and go for the iphone4 because the only thing I wanted in my phone was more space for storage.

I know that there are some of you that think that people with more than 32 gigs worth of music, apps, podcasts, pictures, videos, etc. are crazy but as Apple continues to push the itunes store I am hoping for an increase in memory to match. I don't think streaming is the best option for those of us who don't live in urban areas as it can be very slow at times and Apple is not usually a company that enjoys providing consumers with lousy experiences. There comes a point when manually managing music, movies, and apps is a time consuming task and Apple is usually about finding ways to save your time (even if some features are often left out).

I would even take a thicker phone at this point so long as it still fit in my hand easily. I took my 32 gig 3Gs out of the case and was playing with it and I can't stand how minuscule it feels but fortunately the case fixes that. I've held the iphone 4 and it does have a better feel but again I would take a thicker phone if the trade off was more storage space... but I know that Apple will not do this so it is only a dream.
 
A guy at work has an Android phone with 128MB onboard, and a 16GB SD card. He runs out of storage every single day, because everything installs on the tiny internal storage instead of the SD card, and many of the apps can't be moved. Sometimes an incoming text message is enough to overrun the storage and make it crash. In addition to this, it seems to try to use the 128MB - or the kilobyte or so that is spare - as virtual memory when it runs out of RAM, and then when it runs out of virtual memory, it crashes. Several times a day.

Of course this has nothing to do with Android or an SD card slot - your friend just needs a new phone with larger internal memory. There are plenty of Android phones that have 8+ GB internally.

In terms on internal storage vs SD slot - yes, there is a certain minimum of internal that I wouldn't go below with any phone because that's where apps are stored as well as the OS and other system needs. Ideally, I'd love to have 64 GB internally for apps and my music library and ALSO have an SD card slot for media that I only want to use occasionally such as most video (movies, tv, etc) such that you don;t have to clear portions of the former to accomodate the later.

Tony
 
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I absolutely expect a 64 GB iPhone this fall. More and more consumers (including myself) are ditching their iPod's and using their iPhone's as their one and only mp3 player. For many consumers (again, myself included) a 32 GB iPhone is too small to fit my collection onto but a 64 GB model would fit it just fine.

What I'm guessing Apple will do is release 3 models this fall:

$199 (16 GB)

$299 (32 GB)

$399 (64 GB)

I'm so confident it will come to fruition that I'm currently selling my iPod Classic 120 GB on Craigslist this week.
I agree. MANY were expecting a 64GB iPhone last year. That didn't happen. One way or the other, I'm positive we'll see it's introduction this fall.
 
Of course this has nothing to do with Android or an SD card slot - your friend just needs a new phone with larger internal memory.

You're not wrong, but it does serve to illustrate some of the potential problems with removable storage. If the SD card is designated as media only, with apps and system files in the internal storage, then it shouldn't be an issue.
 
Same thing happened to me. :D

However, I really do beleive that THIS time, I need to get either a 4"+ screen and / or 64 GB otherwise I will not upgrade. I really think I mean it this time. :)

Tony
I am inclined to agree with you on 4" or 64GB storage. There were many HUGE changes from iPhone 3GS to iPhone 4, including state-of-the-art screen and best battery life in the industry. Now that I have those, I can't think of a whole lot that would make me want to upgrade to that. I even just won a brand new HTC Sensation 4G and I have no intention of keeping it. A brand new high-end Android device for free, and I still wanna keep my iPhone 4. Go figure.

We'll see if Apple can muster up enough of a change in their product to make me want the next gen. I REALLY hope it doesn't involve the exclusion of features from iOS 5.
 
I agree with this statement. If Apple wants people to use their iCloud, at least add a memory slot to please people who need more storage.

A 32GB microSD (Class 4) card can be bought for about $50 at Amazon. Some of us don't want to deal with this charade anymore with Apple charging $100 for double the storage when the difference between a 16GB microSD vs 32GB microSD is only $30. And it can be expanded at anytime instead of waiting for the next yearly iPhone update to see if Apple decides to offer more storage.


The simple fact is that APPLE is a business that needs to make a profit annually! All they care about is how the stocks are on the market and the way to do that is to have TOTAL control over your product, items in your product, and prices that your willing to sell your product for. Now, in all honesty, people are going to buy iPods, iPhones, and iPads no matter what... why should Apple invest more production time, more money for different parts, and marketing on something that could hinder what they already have that is familiar. Sure they could ditch their 16GB devices all together and go with 32 & 64, but they cost would be more for them and for us than the 16 already is and they would loose potential clients who dont care about memory so much as function. Would I love it, YES. But I just don't see it coming into fruition.

However! Perhaps in a couple of years, as more of the worlds population goes digital I definitely see a 64G coming on the market and maybe one day, more...
 
There was a prototype iPhone 4 model with 64gb I think, so the implementation of that much memory into an iPhone 5 may be possible. I would like a 64gb model myself to be honest.
 
People has to realize that for 70% of consumers 16GB is more than enough.
32GB fits the other 25% while only 5% of people actually need/want a 64GB model.

95% of people is content with 32GB of storage, Apple may still save 64GB model to promote iPhone6 as they need to reserve updates for later years too.

Apple would force you to buy a classic or a touch, making you buy 2 products brings more profit than 1 iPhone OR with 32GB you would have to rely on iCloud more, 5GB iCloud isn't enough, that way Apple gets monthly fee from you.
 
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