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That kind of happens now. On some calls many or all people are either showing their profile image or nothing. There is nothing interactive there. I’m not sure what it will feel like to meet with interactive avatars. I’m sure it will seem strange at first but I suspect that we will get used to it. Video conferencing itself was pretty strange and off putting initially but now that we’ve gotten used to it, it’s not so bad. Since most of the teams I meet with are lucky to be in compatible timezones, not use collocated video conferencing is hear to stay in some form or another. I’m interested in the prospect of trying out new ways of doing it.
I do, when I’m taking notes, but I’d probably use a Bluetooth keyboard for that. That’s part of the AR experience.
I’m struggling to see how this is an improvement over regular video chat. One of my side-jobs is 3D asset creation, and we can share and view meshes just fine with existing chat apps and built-in OS software. I’m not sure why anyone would want to, or need to don goggles, unless maybe it’s a highly detailed architectural plan or something of that nature? Seems very niche.
By dragging the 3D object along the XYZ planes on my PC I can already get the full picture. Immersion in mixed reality 3D space is not required and only adds a barrier where there doesn’t need to be one. As I said, maybe it could be helpful with highly complex architectural models, but that’s not an area I specialize in so I can’t comment.
What is it about the bright screens close to your eyes is a problem? Getting in the biomechanics of how it works and what human eyes were built to be exposed to, I am not really sure what the concern would be.
They've somewhat enhanced the UI to take advantage of visionOS features, and they've announced new features available soon. One of these is the ability to pin up to five participants and place them anywhere in your room.
Of course that's not exactly groundbreaking. You just need five additional monitors and the cabling to place the monitors around the room. So I don't see what's so special about doing something you could easily do on the desktop version.
/s of course.
Why are all these companies so gung ho about virtual avatars taking part in meetings when they’re forcing their staff back into offices? Source: https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/07/business/zoom-return-to-office/index.html
Zoom's effort on macOS was weak. A clunky, buggy, non-standard app.
Let's hope they learned from that are invested in truly native development.
Let's hope they learned from that are invested in truly native development.
That would be true if it was only that, but you'll be able to manipulate your meeting environment.
- bring in 3D prototypes
- spin them around
- zoom in, tear them apart
- imagine 3-dimensional presentations, not just flat slideshows
It's a whole new level of engagement that more accurately blends the aspects of the physical world with a virtual meeting.
Nothing like a flat screen meeting.
I wonder if there are merits to being able to zoom without having to be tethered to your desk. Like you could join a zoom session from your Vision Pro, and listen in while moving around the building, hands-free.
Man, the Vision Pro really needs a version with inbuilt cellular, for use outside.
The odds to ever be in a meeting where everyone / anyone has a VP is basically down to 0%. The likelihood that everyone even speaks the same native tongue is down to 0 at my company. Also, people still use Zoom? I thought this crashed after the lockdowns. Only Teams here.
Regarding interactive 3D presentations, which you can „take apart“. Who has time for THAT? Making PowerPoint slides is annoying enough haha
What is going on with MR by the way. I scroll through the comments and see MY POST as a reply by another person??? I was like „wait“ … didn’t I just say the exact same thing?
Regarding interactive 3D presentations, which you can „take apart“. Who has time for THAT? Making PowerPoint slides is annoying enough haha
What is going on with MR by the way. I scroll through the comments and see MY POST as a reply by another person??? I was like „wait“ … didn’t I just say the exact same thing?
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Our company uses only Zoom. I had to install Teams for a while to work with a customer, but it was painful and made the computer fans run at full speed throughout the calls. Zoom is relatively efficient in that regard.
We also use Slack instead of Teams. It’s just a different “stack”.
You can already do that by using it on your phone and simply turning off the camera.
The question is how often do you need to take a meeting where you need to be on camera, see what is being presented, take in what is being presented visually AND move around a building. Your mileage may vary, but I struggle to see a use case for that.
That being said, I could see some form of virtual workshop with people in a room, but I'm still not clear how you would operationalise this practically in a way that isn't super odd, but we'll see.
I really don't know, but this could be one of those scenarios where a new form factor opens up a radically new use case that no one had thought of before. Kinda like how ride sharing or streaming Netflix on the go wasn't really viable prior to 4g on your smartphones.
Then I got my iPad, and it was ideal for blogging on the go when I was travelling overseas with my students, thanks to its combination of long battery life, inbuilt cellular, camera and tablet form factor. To use an analogy, using a laptop to blog prior to the iPad was like using a screwdriver to hammer in nails because the hammer hadn't been invented yet.
For example, when I got my M1 MBA, I was floored by its battery life (9 hours on Zoom!). This allowed me to not be tethered to a power point all day, which in turn freed me up to zoom in locations which may otherwise not have been feasible for extended periods of time, like the sofa or the kitchen. I remember going the entire day of zoom without having to plug in my laptop even once.
Now, I have zoom on my Apple TV, although it's flat out useless without a webcam (I can't even join a webinar with the video off by default, it seems). May be useful for long seminars at home on my bed where I don't need to turn my webcam on, but the opportunity hasn't come up.
Right now, I don't know if I even want to be walking around for 2 hours wearing a Vision Pro, but I believe somewhere out there, there is a use case waiting for its "hammer" moment. Something that can technically be done today, but it's not a very elegant process because the right tools for the job haven't been invented yet.
It's a start!
Yup. Once the light from the screen has passed through the lenses, the light reaching your eyes is equivalent to light coming from a source a few feet away.
Also, the screens in the Vision Pro aren't that bright. I doubt they exceed 200 nits peak brightness once the light reaches your eyes. Yeah, the panels can reach 5000 nits, but they are only on for maybe 10% of each frame, and enlarging and focusing the screens through the lenses causes a massive loss of brightness.
For a moment, I imagined myself getting into the subway with that thing on my neck. And I’m already feeling everyone staring at me lol.
That’s what I thought when I saw the keynote video. A person sitting alone consuming content, and a dad videoing his kids with a big thing on his head.
Yeah, and you can probably control brightness and turn on NightShift just like you can with every other Apple device.