There were a vocal minority that had that attitude towards the notch. I don't remember going back 3 years if that was the entirety of the sentiment.
It's innovative if it works as claimed. If it doesn't work as claimed, then it's as innovative as airpower was.
I never understood the reasoning for why so many people are against having a notch on the phone.
So with these notchless phones, when you pick it up - how do you know which orientation is the phone? It's important as which side are you supposed to answer the call? Which side are you supposed to hold it when taking a photo (either with front or rear facing?). The more the manufacturers make phones without bezels or indicators where the top is - the more the user has to fumble to see which side is up (and the greater chance of dropping the phone).
I love having the notch (and the ear speaker notch) so I know quickly how to hold the phone.
It's impossible to tally the votes on an online forum as to how that translates into tens of millions. Of course we know what went on to happen, but it's tough to tell if the buyers of the iphone x; hated the notch, tolerated the notch or liked the notch...based on MacRumors forum postings or iphone units sold. I don't know if there was ever a poll on this.You need to do your homework on this. When the iphone with the notch came out, it was the most talked about aspect of the phone and it drew a huge amount of critisim and dislike. There was no 'minority' that had an attitude towards the notch, it was a very very huge majority that was vocal about it. The majority of Apple reviewers on youtube and tech websites disliked the notch. It was only a minority of people that actually liked the notch.
There can be an innovative concept, but in a practical sense, innovation is about implementation. And if it can't be produced or productionized, where is the innovation? If a concept design is innovative and impractical but the vehicle that was based on that has none of that innovation, what does it matter? So I'm not wrong, it depends on what definitions one wants to slice this with.Your wrong again. An innovation does not need to work to be classed as being 'innovative', it just needs to be designed and built and the idea shown off. This is where the idea of 'concept designs' comes in to play. Many an innovation are seen on 'concept car's' from the motor industry. Many of the innovations on the vechicles do not actually work but is there to show off the creative minds of the designers and engineers. If someone likes an innovation, it gets looked into further and then working prototypes are made. If it fails, then it fails but it's still shows off the potential of the innovation.
You need to do your homework on this. When the iphone with the notch came out, it was the most talked about aspect of the phone and it drew a huge amount of critisim and dislike. There was no 'minority' that had an attitude towards the notch, it was a very very huge majority that was vocal about it. The majority of Apple reviewers on youtube and tech websites disliked the notch. It was only a minority of people that actually liked the notch.
ok give it a rest. Manufacturers were using 2D face and retina scanning long before Apple came up with FaceID. No manufacture, other than Apple, has gone to the trouble (and complication) of using dot projection and the like before or since.
The notch isn’t going anywhere. Deal with it.
Even if you can leave aside that this will inevitably result in a worse camera, it's also only a solution for the camera, not the other sensors in the notch. So the notion that this is a more "innovative" alternative to the notch is just silly.
At best, it's a plausible alternative to the hole punch, but even then, a hole punch phone is going to have a much better front-facing camera than this.
Can you cite actual numbers of how many people disliked the notch so much, they skipped no buying an iPhone, bought an iPhone 8/8 Plus instead of the X, or now an SE instead of the 11?
Or did they move to Android? If so, what, did they get a phone with:
- worse or no facial recognition (no notch, no sensor array, just a hole-punch)
- bigger bezels (no notch because the entire bezel is the notch)
Or did they end up with a notch after all?
I do not need to provide such detailed information and you know it, your just being pedantic.
When the phone with the notch was initially released, the general consenus from the public was that people hated it.
There are lots and lots of posts in this forum that is proof of that. Plus there is lots and lots of review videos with comments from people that say they do not like the notch. Everyone who was wanting the phone knows this. The feature was disliked, period, there is no number figure that needs to prove this.
I agree, and I don’t think they want to. If every phone was all screen with no notch, how could you tell them apart from the front? Right now, the notch seems associated with the iPhone, and that isn’t such a bad thing.Apple will probably be able to shrink some of the sensors at some point. But probably never quite enough to make the notch entirely invisible.
This is the sort of engineering invovation and leap forward that we should be expecting from Apple, not it's competitors.
Seems like ZTE was being manipulative with their renders again. Thicker bezels and it's visible.Any non-rendered images? I don’t really trust ZTE renders because they’re known to decrease bezel size on their renders.
Wonder if it’s visible at all like on previous concept phones.
all phones have that. even samsung does. there's nothing you can do about it. they have to put the ribbon cable somewhere. it's a non-issue, and it's much less noticable than a big hole in the middle of the screen.It's not. The screen is not symmetrical. The bezel at the bottom is slightly thicker than the top bezel.
You can't unsee that.
It's better than it not being there. the only solution i could think of is to brighten the camera area or darken the rest of the screen.Seems like ZTE was being manipulative with their renders again. Thicker bezels and it's visible.
Aren't the iphones' x/xs/11 etc, bezels symmetrical? Hence the notch.all phones have that. even samsung does. there's nothing you can do about it. they have to put the ribbon cable somewhere. it's a non-issue, and it's much less noticable than a big hole in the middle of the screen.
Well only Apple does when it suits, e.g. on the iPhone SE it's not important enough for FaceID or for half the iPads on sale today.Cause, I mean, who cares about security when it comes to authentication, right?