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Besides running in the dark using the phone as a flashlight while you simultaneously answer a call and change the song, what can they do?

because this whole scenario was just made up. if you answer your phone and put it to your ear, where does the flashlight shine? you run sideways like a crab?

otherwise, you would have to constantly hold it in front of you in your hand during running to light the way? pretty tiresome

basically it has to be attached to the forehead for being useful as a flashlight for running, but this would be the most idotic thing i have ever seen...

this is not a real world scenario
 
I don't know what the argument is...

Do people want this on their lock and home screens? :eek:

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This is WAY BETTER... Really?

:rolleyes:

Article:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57578027-1/friday-poll-will-you-adopt-facebook-home/
 
And that was my point..

Offend easily?

If that was your point, it was not very clear. It came across as a put down of Steve Jobs. I'm used to people making "anti-Jobs" comments here, so I presumed you were doing the same. Sorry for my wrong presumption. Still I think your point could have been made more clearly.
 
If that was your point, it was not very clear. It came across as a put down of Steve Jobs. I'm used to people making "anti-Jobs" comments here, so I presumed you were doing the same. Sorry for my wrong presumption. Still I think your point could have been made more clearly.

It would be quite clear if you read the post I quoted..of followed the whole thread..

But not to worry if you keep up on my posts you'll find plenty of anti-jobs here are some just from today.

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So your saying the honest one who gave back to the community that gave him so much is having a great time, and the one who took much and never gave anything in return is not? Sounds like Karma and just deserts to me..

I'm not a big fan of the late Mr. Jobs.
 
Mark Zuckerberg should shut his face and use some of his millions updating some very simple Facebook features such as photo uploading.

It's unbelievable that in 2013 and with mobile devices having better and better cameras, their upload compressions still make photos look like they were taken with a 1MP camera.
 
One of the main reasons for the iPhone becoming a huge hit is that it is first and foremost a PHONE. And all other processes and tasks took a backseat to the PHONE(as in getting a call and making a call)...

I say this from experience because I had a Samsung BlackJack running Windows Embedded(?)... and when I dialed a number the background processes would hose up the CPU that it would take 5 seconds for the numbers to show up and then suddenly show up in a hurry and start dialing, only to realize that I had pressed a wrong number. It was frustrating as heck! I could say the same with a Motorola Droid I had.

With the iPhone, Apple made sure that the phone always works, because its what it is, in the first place! And I never had issues with it apart from AT&T with its fake coverage map and lousy signals.

Facebook trying to talk Apple down for not putting their app all over your face is sour grapes. On Androids,I hope there is a way to get rid of that as an user option. I am buying a phone and paying and arm and a leg for service every month to talk to people and not get zuckered into farcebook. Everything else is a luxury.
 
It would be quite clear if you read the post I quoted..of followed the whole thread..

But not to worry if you keep up on my posts you'll find plenty of anti-jobs here are some just from today.

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I never knew Steve Jobs personally and I assume the same applies to you.
Like most humans he was complex and flawed. I don't idolize or demonize him. There are things about him that I disliked, but I tend to focus on the positive instead of the negative in most things. I am pretty much agnostic toward life in general. I don't have an ax to grind when it comes to personalities, although I do have an intense dislike for slick, glib, and shallow minded people. I'm not saying you are that, but I will say I won't be keeping up on your posts because you're not that interesting...Seriously.
 
As I recall, that (ditching the UI and using just the API) has been possible since Android's launch. There is zero benefit to doing that though when you can just customise the existing UI ...

... I just dont see them moving away from Android for a long time yet. They have no real ecosystem at all.

Zero benefit? Eliminating dependence on Google for bug-fixes, tactical updates, strategic platform direction and replacing all that with an OS that Samsung owns and controls is a huge benefit. And ditching Google's profit layer will be essential in the future. Hardware profits will decline over time, as retail prices drop. It's inevitable for Samsung, Apple, and everyone else. The ecosystem is where profits will come from in 20 years.

Customize the existing UI? Why do you think Samsung did that? Because their engineers were bored? Nope. They did it to differentiate themselves from the generic wannabes who don't have the engineering resources to do that. To cover up the bare Android UI with their own UI, which allows them to erase the word Android from their marketing literature.

The Galaxy S4 launch avoided all mention of Google and included the word "Android" only once or twice, as Samsung explained how they'd improved security beyond what Google's generic release can provide. The Galaxy brand is more important to Samsung than the Google or Android brands. Important enough that they are hedging their bets with Tizen. A Tizen Android phone is on track for release this year.

And guess what. Tizen can run Android apps.

So, you don't see Samsung moving away from Android any time soon? Well if Samsung is in it for the long run (and it appears that they will be the only Android hardware partner with any significant market share going forward) then Samsung will take a careful strategic approach. They can't blow it like Nokia, RIM, Microsoft, Palm, LG, HTC, Dell, Lenovo, et al.

Samsung will use Android only because they have to. Develop Tizen because they want to. Develop their Samsung Hub ecosystem (you may have heard of this during the Galaxy S4 launch) because they absolutely need to.

And when Tizen and Samsung Hub are ready, buh bye Google.
Good luck with that whole Motoroogle mess.

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But... Apple still makes Macs... What market share do they have, and have they had historically?

(Don't attack me, I've had a Mac since '86, I'm just saying)

For that matter, what market share do BMW and Mercedes have in the US?
Low-single-digits I'd guess. But their profit share keeps them going.

Apple's profit share is massive, even in legacy desktop and laptop Macs.
Now compare that to LG's and HTC's profit share in the mobile space.
Slim to none, and Slim just left town.
 
One of the main reasons for the iPhone becoming a huge hit is that it is first and foremost a PHONE. And all other processes and tasks took a backseat to the PHONE(as in getting a call and making a call)...

I say this from experience because I had a Samsung BlackJack running Windows Embedded(?)... and when I dialed a number the background processes would hose up the CPU that it would take 5 seconds for the numbers to show up and then suddenly show up in a hurry and start dialing, only to realize that I had pressed a wrong number. It was frustrating as heck! I could say the same with a Motorola Droid I had.

With the iPhone, Apple made sure that the phone always works, because its what it is, in the first place! And I never had issues with it apart from AT&T with its fake coverage map and lousy signals.

Facebook trying to talk Apple down for not putting their app all over your face is sour grapes. On Androids,I hope there is a way to get rid of that as an user option. I am buying a phone and paying and arm and a leg for service every month to talk to people and not get zuckered into farcebook. Everything else is a luxury.

First - if you don't buy the FACEBOOK phone - you won't have it on your phone. If you buy an iPhone. You won't have it. If you have one of a select number of Android phones - you can install it.

So just don't install it. Why are you acting like it's being forced upon YOU specifically.

And having owned an iPhone from original launch day - I would argue (and so would a lot of my friends and colleagues) that the iPhone as a PHONE was pretty crappy. It got the worst signal lock and tons of digital dropout. It wasn't until the 3G came out that it got a little better.

But to this day - I get more/better signal lock and quality of calls via my Android and previous blackberry then I do on my new iPhone.
 
I never knew Steve Jobs personally and I assume the same applies to you.
Like most humans he was complex and flawed. I don't idolize or demonize him. There are things about him that I disliked, but I tend to focus on the positive instead of the negative in most things. I am pretty much agnostic toward life in general. I don't have an ax to grind when it comes to personalities, although I do have an intense dislike for slick, glib, and shallow minded people. I'm not saying you are that, but I will say I won't be keeping up on your posts because you're not that interesting...Seriously.

I don't..

and I am..

but I'll keep track of yours since you so easy to offend
 
Apple is losing ground everyday?
I suggest you to look the front page and the new data for market share.
Android sucks so much and the only reason they have some market shreis because when you enter in the store 90% of the handsets are with Android, so people who cant pay for iPhone go and buy any other phone, which ofcourse comes with Android. Half of their users still use Android 2.1. Google has more than 200 different phones with their OS on the market. Apple has 1 and 90% of the users use the latest iOS. I want closet secure OS Zuckerberg. I want reviewed apps, i want stability and perfect comunication betwen hardware and software, i want security. So **** you and **** Zuckerberg, and ****s the devs.

What language are you attempting to write? Yikes

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Market share is not all it's cracked up to be when your talking money from apps. Apple clearly leads in this category.

Android has market share for one reason and one reason alone. Cheap/free android handsets. Apple is still taking back market share also.

What are you basing this off? I'm almost certain you don't know that Google Play doesn't support many countries. In its place are individual sellers and other stores.

Please show me numbers that take into account all the sales of Android APKs.

Some of the most populous countries are not included in Google Play numbers.

You used the word 'clearly' so this should be an easy task for you.

Also where is Apple taking back market share? It sure as hell isn't China.
 
I don't know what the argument is...

Do people want this on their lock and home screens? :eek:

Image

This is WAY BETTER... Really?

:rolleyes:

Article:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57578027-1/friday-poll-will-you-adopt-facebook-home/

All my corny and emo friends are already blocked from my newsfeed. But I got a friend who's a pro fighter and the other day pictures of his last fight (he KO'd a guy within a minute) were going around on my newsfeed. I also have a bunch of Page feeds (Lakersground, working out related stuff) that are pretty cool. I wouldn't mind if stuff like that showed up on my lockscreen.

But I don't have Android anyway so it doesn't matter
 
I don't..

and I am..

but I'll keep track of yours since you so easy to offend

Apparently you suffer from the misconception that being offensive gives you some kind of power. I find you more amusing than offensive. Especially amusing is your delusion of self importance.
 
How is this any different than Microsoft's failed Kin? It was called the first social phone.
 

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How can you determine he gained nothing by it. There are quite a few Android users in the world. Right? And for HIS purposes, Android is a better experience because he can integrate with the OS. Something he could never do with iOS - therefor HIS vision of FB home is definitely going to be better on Android then iOS.

And no - I think Apple was probably very tickled by his comment. Why? For one he said HE prefers using the iPhone. And Apple is very happy with the fact they control both hardware and software. It re-inforced Apple's messaging in that regard and put another target on Android's back.

So I disagree with you that nothing was gained.

ok so tell me what he gained then? lol
 
Zero benefit? Eliminating dependence on Google for bug-fixes, tactical updates, strategic platform direction and replacing all that with an OS that Samsung owns and controls is a huge benefit. And ditching Google's profit layer will be essential in the future. Hardware profits will decline over time, as retail prices drop. It's inevitable for Samsung, Apple, and everyone else. The ecosystem is where profits will come from in 20 years.

Customize the existing UI? Why do you think Samsung did that? Because their engineers were bored? Nope. They did it to differentiate themselves from the generic wannabes who don't have the engineering resources to do that. To cover up the bare Android UI with their own UI, which allows them to erase the word Android from their marketing literature.

The Galaxy S4 launch avoided all mention of Google and included the word "Android" only once or twice, as Samsung explained how they'd improved security beyond what Google's generic release can provide. The Galaxy brand is more important to Samsung than the Google or Android brands. Important enough that they are hedging their bets with Tizen. A Tizen Android phone is on track for release this year.

And guess what. Tizen can run Android apps.

So, you don't see Samsung moving away from Android any time soon? Well if Samsung is in it for the long run (and it appears that they will be the only Android hardware partner with any significant market share going forward) then Samsung will take a careful strategic approach. They can't blow it like Nokia, RIM, Microsoft, Palm, LG, HTC, Dell, Lenovo, et al.

Samsung will use Android only because they have to. Develop Tizen because they want to. Develop their Samsung Hub ecosystem (you may have heard of this during the Galaxy S4 launch) because they absolutely need to.

And when Tizen and Samsung Hub are ready, buh bye Google.
Good luck with that whole Motoroogle mess.

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For that matter, what market share do BMW and Mercedes have in the US?
Low-single-digits I'd guess. But their profit share keeps them going.

Apple's profit share is massive, even in legacy desktop and laptop Macs.
Now compare that to LG's and HTC's profit share in the mobile space.
Slim to none, and Slim just left town.

You have no idea what youre talking about you are sooo far out there I don't know where to start.

First knox,you know that security you seem to think Samsung is doing is based on SEandroid and uses nsa encypted android protocol developed by android and nsa for the us government to use in the battle fields in war combat,its soul is PURE android and is 100% android.

second tizan was a back up to android because Samsung didn't know wtf was going to happen with sue happy apple and needed a plan b if they had to dump android and not be allowed to launch new phones using it as they were afraid apple would stop them because of android

third Samsung doesn't use a cover/ui over android,it builds its os from pure asop android code and makes it exactly how they want it from the gound up,its not using stock android and covered with there ui skin over it,its from the ground up made by there software team using base android code.

4th people by android phones for android,if Samsung got rid of android they would be out of the ecosystem and no just because tizan apps run on android doesn't mean the google playstore or music or any service will work on tizan,devs would have to start scratch and they would def not program for tizan when android is free and open source.

let me ask you this,if android is free to use for Samsung and they have full control over how to make it from the ground up.why would they need tizan when everything they want to do they are already doing on android?

there hub and all there features are working just fine and Samsung is using pure asop code to make its own os built on android from the ground up the way they want it.
 
Nearly everyone I know who who switched from iPhone to a Samsung galaxy 2 or 3 is regretting the move. If Zuckerberg is talking a COMPLETE redesign, he might have a point, but on Android even ALL the settings menus have to be completely redone as no one i know can use them. Android is really only for tech heads. I think Facebook and android is a bad match for this reason. Unless they simplify majorly, the Facebook phones will be a temporary blip.

@skratch77 - from the ground up with Android code? Wow, they need to get new OS designers and programmers. The only things I like better on Android is cheaper apps (although quality is worse) and the custom keyboards (+ text editing).
 
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while it maybe more open, it's still not a better experience than iPhone

Why isn't it? I own iPhone, android and windows mobile devices and find windows the best experience, followed by android then apple. Sorry if apple fans don't like it, but that's my unbiased opinion as a user of all 3 OS's ... shame people love to comment based on nothing more than what they think rather than actual experience!
 
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