yeh but why mention it? He gained nothing from it and probably pissed off Apple therefore losing something.
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yeh but why mention it? He gained nothing from it and probably pissed off Apple therefore losing something.
How can you determine he gained nothing by it. There are quite a few Android users in the world. Right? And for HIS purposes, Android is a better experience because he can integrate with the OS. Something he could never do with iOS - therefor HIS vision of FB home is definitely going to be better on Android then iOS.
And no - I think Apple was probably very tickled by his comment. Why? For one he said HE prefers using the iPhone. And Apple is very happy with the fact they control both hardware and software. It re-inforced Apple's messaging in that regard and put another target on Android's back.
So I disagree with you that nothing was gained.
Android is a nice platform and I was sorely tempted by the Galaxy S3. But I chose the iPhone 5 in the end and have no regrets. After all, Facebook has an iPhone app.
I see your point. That said, I don't think Apple would refuse this Facebook service over a snarky comment. Doing that could theoretically turn into a reason for over 1 billion people (active FB users) to avoid buying an iPhone.
Apple have struggled enough with Android already without giving Android advanced Facebook integration exclusivity.
Market research will never show that, so, your question is moot. However, if it did, I do think they would ignore it. People don't always know what they want.
Idiotic idea ever
I have to say looking on the whole Facebook scene few things bother me for some time:
1) Mark z. The "like" style of Steve jobs, appearing in this hoodie, is so lame, uncool, pathetic, that is unbelievable. He is trying to give himself the cool look Steve had, but he just look like some high school grad who dress awful.
2) Mark z - the most arrogant person on planet earth, but again unlike Steve all his accomplishment is steeling someone else idea. And also creating a site that was the same as MySpace
3) facebook site- this is by far the worst, unfriendly, buggy, non logic site on the net, ugly, user interface is a total mess even when you compare it to windows.
4) same goes for the app which took them 3 freaking years to develop
5) facebook company- this is the worst bubble since 2001 net bubble, people all over the world, and in Silicon Valley want to work there, the most talented people on earth, why? What do you create there? How can one compare them to google or apple?
5.5) facebook stock- if you buy it u join the idiots club. Period.
6) mark z key notes, all the world give him such a stage and it broadcast live like he is going to present the next iPhone, or splitting the atom, in place, what we get? Some high school kid keynote that show to the whole world that they invent another button like the famous"like" or a new phone app, is this company some silicon valley mega joke? What is going there? Why the hell they need so many employees????
I have to say looking on the whole Facebook scene few things bother me for some time:
1) Mark z. The "like" style of Steve jobs, appearing in this hoodie, is so lame, uncool, pathetic, that is unbelievable. He is trying to give himself the cool look Steve had, but he just look like some high school grad who dress awful.
2) Mark z - the most arrogant person on planet earth, but again unlike Steve all his accomplishment is steeling someone else idea. And also creating a site that was the same as MySpace
3) facebook site- this is by far the worst, unfriendly, buggy, non logic site on the net, ugly, user interface is a total mess even when you compare it to windows.
4) same goes for the app which took them 3 freaking years to develop
5) facebook company- this is the worst bubble since 2001 net bubble, people all over the world, and in Silicon Valley want to work there, the most talented people on earth, why? What do you create there? How can one compare them to google or apple?
5.5) facebook stock- if you buy it u join the idiots club. Period.
6) mark z key notes, all the world give him such a stage and it broadcast live like he is going to present the next iPhone, or splitting the atom, in place, what we get? Some high school kid keynote that show to the whole world that they invent another button like the famous"like" or a new phone app, is this company some silicon valley mega joke? What is going there? Why the hell they need so many employees????
Being an "active" Facebook user does not mean you want Facebook home.
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Some here are so drunk with love....
Actually, the way it works on the iPhone is:
1. You run in the dark, with the flashlight on.
2. Your phone rings.
3. Your flashlight goes off as soon as the phone rings, plunging you into darkness.
4. You screech to a halt, so you don't trip and kill yourself in the dark.
5. You answer your call.
6. You tell the caller to hold on for a minute, because you are in total darkness.
7. You press the Home button.
8. You scroll through your screens of icons, in the dark, looking for the Flashlight app.
9. You turn on the Flashlight.
10. You talk.
11. When you want to hang up, you press the Home button.
12. The Flashlight goes off, plunging you into darkness.
13. You click on the Phone app and hang up, in the dark.
14. You scroll through your screens of icons for the Flashlight app, in the dark.
15. You turn on your Flashlight and continue running.
It's pretty much the same if you want to make an outgoing call.
And it's pretty much the same if you want to change a song or a podcast.
Oh, and if you want to text, or do anything with a another app, you also have to do it in the dark.
And that's why I take my old Galaxy Nexus when I go running, and leave my iPhone at home.
Silly boy, indeed....
That was the best you can do?
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Besides running in the dark using the phone as a flashlight while you simultaneously answer a call and change the song, what can they do?
Why do you carry three phones around?
It's not an opinion. Openness alone does not make for a better experience. Just look at the countless cheap, crappy Android phones. Is the Samsung Dart a better experience than the iPhone?
The fact is, being so open can result in absolutely awful phones and incredible phones at the same time. So, no, openness does not mean a better experience.
Sure course it would. Market research is a broad area.
Apple nearly went bankrupt because it was producing products that people didn't want.
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I wouldn't want Facebook home on my phone but I'd like to customize my iPhone Home screen - its kind of boring with just rows of icons... Android has a lot more potential in this area than Apple. Is that good or bad? Depends on the user base, and *your* own needs / opinions.
I have used both iPhone and Android phones and I believe I know what I want and what I miss from both systems. Actually, I missed some features so much that I fealt I had to JB my iPhone to be more pleased and to stopp annoy myself on som features I missed.
I can't believe som many people actually buy the "People don't know what they want" brain washing. If you truly feel that way, good for you. But don't tell others that don't that they are wrong. People are different and some people want to make their own choices.
Some people liked it in the Soviet Union etc. when they were told which channels to watch and how to think. But some people appreciate to make their own choices and appreciate devices that let them.
I can only speak for myself. I have both the iPhone and Samsung Skyrocket. Both are great phones and run exactly as I need them to. I have now switched to using the Skyrocket though as more my primary phone.
For me - being able to set default apps is a huge plus. For what I do - being able to share to multiple social networking sites, email, etc with pretty much a few keystrokes is a time saver. Being able to send more than 5 pictures (I'm pretty sure this is still a limitation of iOS, yes? Maybe not?) at once is nice. Having pictures I send - resized or not, and not have them all come up on the other end named "picture" or "photo". Being able to rename pictures and files that I've saved on my phone has been very helpful.
Some of my personal use cases - which obviously aren't the needs of everyone. But that's why "my" Android phone runs a few laps around my iPhone.
2) Ok, so Steve didn't steal others ideas (didn't he actually proudly more or less say that straight out during a key note?). I thought that was kind of "his thing", taking bits of pieces of promising technology and functions, putting it together in a better package and call it new, groundbreaking and his? There were smartphones before, but not in such a impressing/popular package (more or less like MySpace vs Facebook)
3) Sure, I don't love everything with the Facebook web site, but I (and over a billion other people) have more or less been growing dependent on that site as one of the most important/easiest ways to communicate with friends, relatives and other contacts. Just because you think it's worthless and totally irrelevant doesn't mean the majority of the population do.
4) Actually I think the app works great as a temporary solution when you aren't at your computer. But that just me, I don't say it's a great app, but I believe it's incorrect to say that it absolutely is terrible (for you maybe, but hey, we're all different with different preferences).
Comparing the Samsung Dart to the iPhone is not a fair contest. While I'm an iPhone user (primarily, though I also own an Android device), the Samsung Dart and other low-end Android phones are not in the same class as the iPhone. These are basically feature-phone replacements and should not be compared to $650-$850 iPhones (at retail price).
Remember that not everyone who wants a smartphone-type device wants to (or can afford to) buy a $199+ device on a two-year contract. Some buy a $79 phone on a pre-paid carrier or have to buy the phone at full retail price where the $650+ price of an iPhone is cost-prohibitive.
While clearly the experience of an iPhone is going to be better than a budget Android phone, I don't think they belong in the same comparison class. Yet do not underestimate the influence these budget devices have. They raise the Android adoption numbers substantially. And that will push developers to target Android more and more.
Eh...
I think this kind of integration is innovative, and so it's good to see it out there in the marketplace -- and I actually spend a good deal of time on FaceBook, but that doesn't mean I want it to be the center of my smartphone experience. =]
I think this kind of integration is innovative, and so it's good to see it out there in the marketplace -- and I actually spend a good deal of time on FaceBook, but that doesn't mean I want it to be the center of my smartphone experience. =]
The problem is people aren't really understanding the quote.
The quote is:
"I think that Google has this opportunity in the next year or two to start doing the things that are way better than what can be done on iPhone through the openness of their platform. "
I think people are reading too much into it. He never said Android OFFERS a better experience than the iPhone. But that since it is open - it has the OPPORTUNITY for a better experience.
And you also have to realize - what he means is that by allowing HOME to integrate into the OS - for Zuckerberg - he sees this as a way better experience. A way better experience to use Home/Facebook.
It's a valid comment coming from the CEO of a company launching a product that is really only possible on Android's platform.
People in this thread - for either their love of apple, hate for android and/or facebook are ignoring the context and just reacting viscerally to the comment.
He never said Android is better than iOS.
Agreed it openness doesn't equal a better experience. But it equal more of a choice for the consumer, which I believe is a good thing. If you want functions you can't even get with an iPhone (widgets, quick settings, live caller look-up etc.) and have a limited budget you can get something like a Samsung Dart. Sure, compared to an iPhone or a flagship Android it's slower, have less memory and a non retina screen.
However, many people is quite fine with that. They get the functions they want, at a very low cost. Not everyone need a top of the line phone and can live with a slower phone with a screen that's not the best. Maybe they use it mainly for phone calls, but want the option to check mail, Facebook, etc also.
Once again we are all different, with different preferences, different thickness of our wallets and different demands on what our phone should be like. That doesn't mean that one is wrong and the other is right. Whats good for one is bad for another and possibly the other way round also. If someone prefers a Samsun Dart, good for them , let them. If someone prefers an iPhone 5, same there. Someone who prefers a Samsung S4, good for you.
For Zuckerberg Android is better than iOS when it comes to Facebook integration because Android allows you to change your launcher. That doesn't mean Android has to be better for you.
Some people have to look at everything like black or whit, on or off, good or bad. Life isn't that easy.
Sigh
What he doesn't understand is that while facebook is very popular today it could easily be in the same boat as myspace tomorrow.
I didn't buy my iPhone to hang off facebook 24/7, that's just an app I use once in a while. I realize they want to push it as "the main reason anyone exists at all" but it's just a website.
What he doesn't understand is that while facebook is very popular today it could easily be in the same boat as myspace tomorrow.
I didn't buy my iPhone to hang off facebook 24/7, that's just an app I use once in a while. I realize they want to push it as "the main reason anyone exists at all" but it's just a website.