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I don't think that you know how some people out there feel about this. I was just reporting what was said in the group. It was about phones the discussion but the discussion steered onto iPods as the discussion was about a Nokia phone that was meant to be iPod's rival. That was what the majority opinion was in that group. They did not want to be tied to the iTunes software. I was also the only Mac user in that group and they were all Windows users.
I own an iPod and i am happy with mine. It is shame that people cannot report back on what some people have said about things without pointless comments.

So they wouldn't like to be tied to what is the best-working DMP/application combo out there? And would rather have their computer crash throughout installation and usage just to use the Zune, which people have already figured out how to crash and shown that it's completely worthless. I almost think you're a Microsoft troll...
 
I believe Hulugu summed it up best. The only people who are going to buy a Zune are those who don't WANT an iPod.
 
the thing is huge and clunky fitting it in your pocket would be fine but you would have a huge bulge, id take a first gen ipod over this anyday
 
the thing is huge and clunky fitting it in your pocket would be fine but you would have a huge bulge, id take a first gen ipod over this anyday

I don't know, bulges sometimes aren't that bad?\

"So what's that?"
"Oh, my brown Zune. Want to see?"
"Uh...no"
 
If your subscription lapses, not only do you have to spend time downloading the songs again, you don't even have access to them without purchasing them from another source. You can't legally make DRM-free copies to keep if you cancel your subscription. So, if you have 200 songs that you "must have", you will have to either continue your subscription or buy them somewhere else. I don't know about you, but I prefer to keep a copy of the songs I like, I don't change my musical taste every month. And I don't buy 180 songs a year (that would be 1 new song every 2 days).

Go back and read the paragraph you just wrote. You make no sense. You're mixing and matching SUBSCRIPTION downloads with PURCHASE downloads. Do you really think that if I had downloaded 5000 songs with a SUBSCRIPTION service, that when I cancelled that service I would be compelled to BUY those 5000 songs for $5000???? OF COURSE NOT.

What I would do, and in fact what I *have* done (more than once), is get another SUBSCRIPTION, and over time download those 5000 songs in that other SUBSCRIPTION service, again only paying $15/month. Notice that *buying* never came up in any of my explanations of the subscription service. I'm not interested in buying. Buying isn't even part of the equation. Go back and read my previous posts - I though they were very, very clear why switching subscription providers isn't that big a deal. I thought I described my experience in some detail.

An in terms of buying 180 songs a year on iTunes, ask yourself this: do you acquire 180 songs a year by any other means? How many songs do you download? How many CD's do you buy a year? Are you seriously telling me that your music collection doesn't grow by 180 songs a year by some means or another? Well, I think you'd be in the minority there, at least for people within a certain age range, and certainly compared to most people on this forum.

The point is, subscription services should be compared to the iTunes song-purchase model, *not* to free downloads. I mean yeah downloading music you get unlimited songs for *free*, at the cost of slow/unreliable downloads, incorrect/incomplete tag information, etc. When you compare LEGAL music options: subscription vs. a-la-carte song purchases, I think subscription wins HANDS DOWN.
 
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2237

This story up over at appleinsider...
Apparently Zune is not compatible with Vista. It just keeps getting funnier....:p
Also the picture displayed while installing the software baffles me...

I must say this Zune launch is proving incredibly entertaining. :)

So they mention in the article above that tthe splash screen of the 3 girls seems a bit odd. Is this the splash screen when you've finally "installed" the Zune? :D
 
I believe Hulugu summed it up best. The only people who are going to buy a Zune are those who don't WANT an iPod.

Its odd how iPod has such a positive and negative image to some. Never understood it but, it's their loss if they go for it. Read a lot of complaints about the Zune, just installation alone caused problems.
 
Here's how I see it...

Windoze diehards and XBox 360 users will like Zune (duh). If they can figure out how to use the OS without having any problems, they can probably get the Zune to do the same. Mac folks and iPod users will continue to like the iPod. We like stuff that just works, quickly, easily, and without giving me Error windows that only a software developer can understand. I just really don't understand how this is supposed to be a realistic competitor. I mean, it's a nifty little (big, rather) gadget, nice big screen (which iPod will soon have), Wi-fi (I really don't see the point, people will use this very little. What would be cool is being able to send all your songs wirelessly to it from your comp), but what else is there that's ANY better than what iPod already offers. I just see so many hurdles to this really taking off. There's already many different choices of iPod, one Zune. iTunes works, for the time being at least, it looks like the Zune software has problems. Reading all the "I hate iPod" posts in the Zune forums is hysterical. Good try MS, but I don't even think this will be an iRiver Killer.
 
Point taken to be honest after reading this and researching a bit more about the Zune i am not sure that those type of people that i was referring to would be interested or impressed with the Zune either for the reasons that you mentioned.
So they'll replace being tied to iTunes with being tied to the Zune Marketplace. There's no difference in the business model here - both systems are locked into their respective software. I'd much rather be tied to something that works seamlessly and well whilst looking good than something so clunky as the Zune software.
 
I changed the name to Zuné

With a little peanut over the e. My name is Joe Dirte, I added an e to the end, cause it sounds cool. The zune already had an e so I added the tilde, cause it sounds cooler.

I posted 6 new zuné/joe dirté install pics heré.

Hey zuné, Don't you get it? Stinky stuff is your milieu. Okay? This is your deal. You are an underachievement nexus of the universé. Microsoft gives new meaning to "marketing the crap" out of something.

The new zune sucks, if you disagree chances are you do too - yes I'm talking to you Steve Balmer. Monkey Dudé!
 
"One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad
"Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler

Kinda like this? ;)

propaganda_foxnews.jpg
 
Hi I'm a mac

Those "I'm a mac, I'm a PC" adds jsut became so much more grounded in reality.


substitute in Jobs with an ipod, and Gates with a zune.:D
 
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