beat you to it
Damn!
But I got you on the screen resolution. They're both 320x240.
How 'bout them, er, apples?
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Damn!
But I got you on the screen resolution. They're both 320x240.
How 'bout them, er, apples?
I work out of a heavy traffic CompUSA in Philly. I expected to see alot of customers there for it. Up until 8 o clock not a single one sold. I talked to someone who closed the store and they still hadnt sold one. I was quite surprised actually.
Kevin
Kevin
Hahahaha!!! This is awesome!!! Apple is the Microsoft of the Music Biz
Now nobody will use non-iPods because their afraid their MP3s won't play on a music player that isn't the iPod. It's too funny. It's just like the Mac-phobia that PC users have always had, except this time Apple is the 800-pound gorilla so the bias and misinformation are working in its favor.
For the record: The Zune plays MP3s, not to mention AAC and WMA files. It just can't play songs purchased from the iTunes store. There are very, very few people that have purchased 1000s of songs from the iTunes store. In fact, 22 songs have been sold on iTunes for every iPod sold. The vast majority of music people have in their iTunes collection are from ripping CDs or...other means...
The Zune does do something interesting, songs that are 'beamed' over are 'infected' with DRM, and the Zune doesn't work with WMA 11 nor anything bought with PlaysForSure.
As for the 22 songs, that's just a stastical average. Your point is taken, but this is just yet another barrier to entry that Microsoft will have to deal with because they're not only competing with iTunes, but their former partners.
Damn!
But I got you on the screen resolution. They're both 320x240.
How 'bout them, er, apples?
Totally a typo
Kudos to Microsoft for taking on Apple with what seems to be an okay product. But like the reviews have clearly pointed out, the iPod is definitely the winner. I'm still very interested in playing around with one.
Since Microsoft left their former PlaysForSure partners hang to dry I hope some of them retaliate by creating a Mac version of their software. I would love to have the full Rhapsody client for the Mac. Rhapsody really puts iTunes to shame, actually, not just in interface but in features.
The main Rhapsody feature is of course the ability to play subscription content. I would *love* to be able to have a music subscription on my Mac. $15/month for unlimited music? That's just nuts!!!
Also , Rhapsody has custom radio stations where you give it a playlist or list of artists, and it finds other artists/songs like it. Basically like Pandora, except that you can click on any song in your custom radio station and download it to your library within seconds.
Question for people out there: is there any *technical* reason preventing the PlaysForSure DRM from being ported to OS X? I realize that Microsoft may very well have license terms that will prevent this from ever actually happening, but I'm just wondering if there's any technical reason why Real couldn't write an OS X port of its sofware that would fully implement its DRM.
You WANT subscription? Whenever you STOP paying the monthly fee...your entire library dissapears!!. What you are doing is simply renting the music.
Zune demolished in just a couple of minutes. Amazing video. Watch that women getting ecstatic about her ipod shuffle...
The more I research, the more I'm disappointed.
I have 3 iPods.. 3G 20 GB iPod, 4G 30 GB Video iPod, and the 2G 1GB iPod shuffle. Also have a 17" G4 powerbook.
It's not that I'm an Apple man exclusively, it's just that I'll buy the best products.
The more research I do, I find that the Zune just isn't that great or even innovative of a product. I was thinking that it would challenge the iPod, but as of now it's not even close.
I have 3 iPods.. 3G 20 GB iPod, 4G 30 GB Video iPod, and the 2G 1GB iPod shuffle. Also have a 17" G4 powerbook.
It's not that I'm an Apple man exclusively, it's just that I'll buy the best products.
The more research I do, I find that the Zune just isn't that great or even innovative of a product. I was thinking that it would challenge the iPod, but as of now it's not even close.
The same can be said of Netflix and Blockbuster Online. Or leasing a car or about a 100 other examples. There was a time when I was right there with you thinking that its a stupid way of acquiring songs. However not everyone cares about owing the music. They would rather be able to sample everything and when they get tired of that song they can simply remove it from their system.
*shrugs* Too each their own. I'm in the buy it one..play it forever camp.
The full line will finally be joined together like a beautiful Voltron episode.
Voltron, OMG! That show was awesome!
Screw it - I need to buy a gift, and I'm putting my money where my mouth is and buying another iPod.
Proprietary vendor lock-in
Gosh, who really wants to buy DRM'd music which has a proprietary lock-in from a specific vendor. I mean if I bought music through the Zune marketplace, I can only play it on a Zune.
That will never work - I mean who would want to do that! I predict people will see right through this, avoid the Zune, and go back to their iPods and the iTunes store....
Well at least they can't accuse Apple any more of such a lock-in strategy. And in any case, it not like the iTunes store is the only place one can source music from! Lock-in doesn't = monopoly in this case.
;-)
Gosh, who really wants to buy DRM'd music which has a proprietary lock-in from a specific vendor. I mean if I bought music through the Zune marketplace, I can only play it on a Zune.
That will never work - I mean who would want to do that! I predict people will see right through this, avoid the Zune, and go back to their iPods and the iTunes store....
Well at least they can't accuse Apple any more of such a lock-in strategy. And in any case, it not like the iTunes store is the only place one can source music from! Lock-in doesn't = monopoly in this case.
;-)
Check out the Today Show's "fair comparison" between the Zune and the 3G iPod!
http://www.jacksonlatka.com/blog/?p=60
http://www.jacksonlatka.com/blog/?p=60
*clears throat*
Well! Those unpacking photos of that Zune sure do look sexy! If your idea of sexy is making a 'home video' of a Gisele Bundchen look-alike on your PC
Well! Those unpacking photos of that Zune sure do look sexy! If your idea of sexy is making a 'home video' of a Gisele Bundchen look-alike on your PC
That is horribly horribly wrong.
'Look how this 2007 Lexus LS460 completely out does this 1989 BMW 7 Series'
MSNCB owned by Microsoft, yes. Biased? Apparently. Reputable news? Less so every day.
Umm...so? The value I get from music is from *listening* to it, not from *owning* it. I would much, much, much rather pay $15/month for unlimited music.
And so what if the music dissapears if I decide to, for example, switch providers from Rhapsody to Napster or something? All the subscription services have more or less the same catalog of songs, so the next time you think of a song that you want to play, you can quickly search your new provider for the song, and in a few seconds you can be downloading the whole album. And since the song starts playing almost immediately while you're downloading it, it's almost as if it was already in your library.
Sheesh, all you people criticizing subscription services have no idea what you're talking about. I've taken Yahoo Music, Napster, and Rhapsody for a test run, so I can fairly compare them against each other and also to the iTunes store. And honestly, the whole, "your music dissapears" issue was just not a factor. It's just a total paradigm shift.
Think of it this way: in the time it takes you to search through your library to find a song/album and play it, you can search on a subscription service for *every song ever made* (ok, not really of course, but still, we're talking about millions of songs), and be playing that very same song/album in about the same time. In one case you're searching your own relatively limited music collection, in another case you're searching a catalog of millions of songs. The end result is the same: within a few seconds you're playing the song. And by the time the song finishes playing, in both cases it will be in your hard drive.
Also, the "custom radio station" feature is fantastic for music discovery. If you've used Pandora you know what I'm talking about. But the thing is, with a subscription service, you can copy that song to your library at no additional incremental cost. You don't have to pay an additional $0.99 cents to download that cool song that you've never heard before. You've already paid a flat subscritpion rate, so you're much, much more likely to take a chance and download that song you just heard, because the only cost is another 5MB or so on your hard drive. And not necessarily even that, because you can also "bookmark" a song which means it will *only* play in streaming mode (and thus only when your are connected to the internet).
Believe me, it may not happen this year or the next, but eventually subscriptions *will* be the dominant model. It's just too good a deal for the consumer for it not to happen.
Brown Zune...
As I said before on another forum, I finally understood the logic behind selling a brown colored Zune player, and it's very simple really...
Isn't sh*t usually brown??
they can't even make it a good brown...
As I said before on another forum, I finally understood the logic behind selling a brown colored Zune player, and it's very simple really...
Isn't sh*t usually brown??
I'll stick with iPod --> Zune incompatible with Windows Vista
Here's something posted @ zune.net
http://www.zune.net/en-US/meetzune/software/OS_not_supported.htm
Windows Vista is not supported at this time. Check back soon for updates.
So they @ microsoft release a product of the future (yeah right) yet their own OS of the future can't support it at this time? How sad and quite typical of ms.
Here's something posted @ zune.net
http://www.zune.net/en-US/meetzune/software/OS_not_supported.htm
Windows Vista is not supported at this time. Check back soon for updates.
So they @ microsoft release a product of the future (yeah right) yet their own OS of the future can't support it at this time? How sad and quite typical of ms.
It is sort of the question of owning a house verses renting a house. In the end, while there are some advantages to renting, there are much greater advantages to owning.
Good point, except that you probably don't end up paying more for 'renting' with this model (especially if you don't have a base of 5,000 songs that you got for free when Napster was Napster).
Thats a 4G iPod....I saw that 3G on the title, and stopped reading/ People need to have the basic facts down, then they can give an opinion(and have me take it seriously)