By the way, what firmware version do we have to wait for to get picture messaging (MMS)? Get with the frickin program Apple. What GSM phone made in the past 3 years has lacked MMS? My friends and I send about 50 photos a day to each other using MMS and we're on different networks. Its called a standard Apple, get with the standards everybody else has. Don't even get me started on the lack of Yahoo IM, stereo Bluetooth, 3G, all of which are increasingly available in $99 phones. The reason I bring up MMS because its a deal breaker for people I know and I can't think of one typically paranoid prorietary justification Apple would have for not including a software feature like that. And with all the prorietary paranoia Apple has, that's really saying something.
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iPhone 1.1.2 Firmware Released
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First off we don't think negatively, we think logically according to how Apple has reacted in the past. The ringtone thing happened initially in the beginning but then was patched over by multiple methods. Now it has returned, but only time will tell whether this new way of putting ringtones on the iPhone will stay. Perhaps their argument for this type of "custom ringtone" is that iPhone users actually wanted "custom ringtones", not just music. Fortunately, it allows the use of any audio file made into a .m4r.
Second, saying that we will not need to update to 1.1.3 is not a good statement. Every release that Apple will have will be something the help patch, fix, or add to the iPhone. What about 1.2? These updates will continue to come, especially next year. If they take away your precious ringtones with 1.1.3, I suppose I understand a little bit. But I will continue to update my iPhone in the hope that it continues to fix bugs and add new/wanted features. In that way, I will be using my iPhone to the fullest...
First off we don't think negatively, we think logically according to how Apple has reacted in the past. The ringtone thing happened initially in the beginning but then was patched over by multiple methods. Now it has returned, but only time will tell whether this new way of putting ringtones on the iPhone will stay. Perhaps their argument for this type of "custom ringtone" is that iPhone users actually wanted "custom ringtones", not just music. Fortunately, it allows the use of any audio file made into a .m4r.
Second, saying that we will not need to update to 1.1.3 is not a good statement. Every release that Apple will have will be something the help patch, fix, or add to the iPhone. What about 1.2? These updates will continue to come, especially next year. If they take away your precious ringtones with 1.1.3, I suppose I understand a little bit. But I will continue to update my iPhone in the hope that it continues to fix bugs and add new/wanted features. In that way, I will be using my iPhone to the fullest...
Again I state...This post has been on Apple forums for almost 24 hours...there have been over 2,400 hits and almost 50 posts...Apple without hesitation either locks or removes threads that do not belong, are not technical related or are derogatory in context or use. This has not happened. I posted it there for that reason...To see what Apple would do and they have let it alone...Take this as a simple sign or keep being pesimestic...I am only helping those that want to really truly enjoy life and freedom of expression.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1229012&tstart=0
Have a terrific custom Ringtone DAY!!!
My response to the 1.1.3 were to those that are still using 1.0.2 or other because they want to use their own ringtones. It is so that "THEY CAN" update to get the patches and security fixes and still maintain what they were staying at a lower version for...please read the whole statement and intent. It also gets rid of the need for others to install hacks or other software that may hurt their phones...again, I am helping users with my posts not hurting. NO longer is iPhoneRingtoneMaker or iToner needed and still have open TIFF holes. This has all been a benefit to everyone...Again-Think POSITIVE!
And if you don't think the iPhone is a significant advancement in handheld platforms, you've got some delusions of your own. You sound like a typical number cruncher who just looks at current performance and has virtually no ability to see beyond the math.
You are something else. Apple develops the most innovative forward thinking platform of the decade and you're like a spoiled little kid complaining about the fact that the Porsche daddy bought isn't gold plated too. Get real!
MMS is "gold plating"? Every phone with a color screen and a camera produced in the past couple years has MMS. And that's CDMA and GSM and what do you know? They're interoperable too. That's the thing about standards though which apparently Apple has you convinced you don't need. LOL when you take a picture with your fancy toy phone and want to send it to a Verizon or T-Mobile customer, what do you do? Pray to God? Its in every FREE phone dude.
Hehe, you sound like the Dell guy that said that Apple should just be sold and the money returned to the shareholders.
Maybe you are right, but time will tell.
Wow...you are definetly a seattleite...impatient, spoiled and rude to boot!!! Obviously...YOU...are using this "TOY phone" and the only thing you seem to want to do is BITCH cause it don't meet your perfectionist standards. Get a GRIP DUDE...its called EMAIL to send a real photo...not a stupid thumbnail. I wouldnt want a bunch of thumbnails sent to me cause they are worthless and cant be used outside the friggin phone. Apple has NOT made a "standard" phone...they have made a better phone...get out of the dinosaur age and start using your email for big files. If you don't like "YOUR FANCY TOY PHONE" then take it back and leave these forums so that we don't have to listen to your spoiled brat attitude
Have a Great Day and ask for a Hug....you need it!
Again I state...This post has been on Apple forums for almost 24 hours...there have been over 2,400 hits and almost 50 posts...Apple without hesitation either locks or removes threads that do not belong, are not technical related or are derogatory in context or use. This has not happened. I posted it there for that reason...To see what Apple would do and they have let it alone...Take this as a simple sign or keep being pesimestic...I am only helping those that want to really truly enjoy life and freedom of expression.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1229012&tstart=0
Have a terrific custom Ringtone DAY!!!
My response to the 1.1.3 were to those that are still using 1.0.2 or other because they want to use their own ringtones. It is so that "THEY CAN" update to get the patches and security fixes and still maintain what they were staying at a lower version for...please read the whole statement and intent. It also gets rid of the need for others to install hacks or other software that may hurt their phones...again, I am helping users with my posts not hurting. NO longer is iPhoneRingtoneMaker or iToner needed and still have open TIFF holes. This has all been a benefit to everyone...Again-Think POSITIVE!
Dude, you are looking at a user forum, in many ways not that different from this one. The person that posted is not an Apple representative. Just becuase Apple have not removed the post and every one is talking about it, it does not mean Apple agress.
Im the one that made that post and I have been on that forum since iPhone D-Day. It IS monitored by moderators that lock and remove posts daily. I know that it is a user to user forum and if you look at the two user names (here and there) and then look at my 700+ posts that I have been assisting users for over 4 months now. I am only new to this forum because I wanted to pass on the news of what I had discovered and wanted to share that with fellow users here. Your right though, I am not an Apple representative and even those that are on there cannot say one way or another but they do remove threads daily. If you had been a part of that forum crown for even two months, you would know...you havent thus you don't so please do not degrade advice from someone who has been there and knows the system.
Have a great day!
I used the link OU provided and that is a lot of people talking out of their butt. Nothing official. Just becuase Apple does not remove the post it does not mean that it is official. Major official capabilities are adverticed to bring more customers. This is a hole not a feature. It is too complex of a procedure. If Apple wanted you to be able to do this (at this stage), they would have instead just have you right click on the song and everything else would have occured automatically.
The iPhone and iTunes was made for the un-washed masses, this is too complex, it is not for people that know their way around a Mac.
Remember "It just works"?
Having to rename and then drag tells it all.
This is a hole.
No one is talking out their butts as you put it. It is a user help user forum sponsored, maintained and moderated by Apple (read the Terms of Use) to assist iPhone users that are having problems troubleshoot and get up and operational. I have NOT stated in ANY post that this an "OFFICIAL" upgrade. It "IS" a hole in the new version and it is being used by those that want to enjoy the found "feature". The procedure is NOT complex at all. No one has told you to use it, it does NOT brick iPhones, it is not a hack so let it go already. Those that want to use the "feature" can and those that don't wont. Obviously, they are NOT going to advertise it for monetary reasons, but at the same time, they have NOT locked my other thread. Get over it and let it go....By the way I am not a "DUDE" I have been leading soldiers for more years then you have been alive.
Have a great
day!to sfc archer
TO SFC ARCHER
Hey man i am positive about Apple, hence why i own Apple products and no longer use windows/pc eqip. Also please dont use sarcasm in your arguments or defense; its less respectable.
Anyways like i said i am not negative about this new occurence nor am i pessimistic. I am skeptical. Do i hope its true? hell yeah! There are plenty of audio tones I want on my phone. But like I said time will tell. Also most users of 1.0.2 are not ringtone users, but those who have unlocked their phones for use on other carriers. I understand you're intent but try not to label people as negative or pessimistic. we all want the certain things from our phones. And hopefully we all get them.
TO SFC ARCHER
Hey man i am positive about Apple, hence why i own Apple products and no longer use windows/pc eqip. Also please dont use sarcasm in your arguments or defense; its less respectable.
Anyways like i said i am not negative about this new occurence nor am i pessimistic. I am skeptical. Do i hope its true? hell yeah! There are plenty of audio tones I want on my phone. But like I said time will tell. Also most users of 1.0.2 are not ringtone users, but those who have unlocked their phones for use on other carriers. I understand you're intent but try not to label people as negative or pessimistic. we all want the certain things from our phones. And hopefully we all get them.
No one is talking out their butts as you put it. It is a user help user forum sponsored, maintained and moderated by Apple (read the Terms of Use) to assist iPhone users that are having problems troubleshoot and get up and operational. I have NOT stated in ANY post that this an "OFFICIAL" upgrade. It "IS" a hole in the new version and it is being used by those that want to enjoy the found "feature". The procedure is NOT complex at all. No one has told you to use it, it does NOT brick iPhones, it is not a hack so let it go already. Those that want to use the "feature" can and those that don't wont. Obviously, they are NOT going to advertise it for monetary reasons, but at the same time, they have NOT locked my other thread. Get over it and let it go....By the way I am not a "DUDE" I have been leading soldiers for more years then you have been alive.
Have a great
To me you are a dude, and by the way, you are making a mistake in assuming I am not older than you. Not all leaders are created equal btw, you seem to have a big ego, a lot of men that were lead are in graves and it is hard to say if they were led properly or not.
Get over it, DUDE.
BTW, Apple gave you a legal and for pay method of getting ring tones, what you are doing is stealing and leading others to steal also.
Good mark of a leader.
Yes...and you are such a good example, not serving your country and making light of those who have sacraficed their lives for your freedom to sit on your ARSS and develope for 34 years.
And yes I do have an ego and it has allowed me to lead and bring home every SINGLE soldier. At least the soldiers I lead have respect and don't degrade others. And oh by the way...every song I have in iTunes to include ringtones is "PURCHASED" The sounds I am refering to come from Captain Audio and Crazy Frog and do not allow ringtones to be made yet...The SONGs WERE Purchased...Again speaking without facts....you GET OVER IT!
That is All...your Dismissed!
And why do you think I was not in the military?
As a LEADER you are making a lot of mistakes DUDE, you keep making a lot of assumptions. Just because you can does not mean you should, you are leading your MEN to steal.
I would say you are not much of a leader, you just have a big head and full of yourself.
Please people - Peace - Let's let this thread get back on track.
Thanks in behalf of all of us...
Thanks in behalf of all of us...
Yes, upper right hand text field. thanks. In 1.1.1, by clicking on the text field with lang=ja it brought up a slightly different qwery that allowed me to type japanese. Looks like apple took this (bug) out.
Is 1.1.2 now appearing on iTunes or the Apple update yet?
I would not try this until it does, it has been many hours and to my knowledge it is still not out.
I recommend waiting.
I would not try this until it does, it has been many hours and to my knowledge it is still not out.
I recommend waiting.
Wow, this thread sucks. You've got people trashing on people that live in Seattle, then turning around and talking about respect? Gotta love maturity, some have it and some don't.
Did Apple fix the major Calendar bug where calendar items not created by the owner of the calendar don't get synced? That's a major dealbreaker for me. The fact that 80% of my calendar items are sent by someone else, and yet they don't sync, has made me switch to another phone that handles the calendar appropriately.
Any idea if this is fixed?
Did Apple fix the major Calendar bug where calendar items not created by the owner of the calendar don't get synced? That's a major dealbreaker for me. The fact that 80% of my calendar items are sent by someone else, and yet they don't sync, has made me switch to another phone that handles the calendar appropriately.
Any idea if this is fixed?
I was just thinking, with the download of the firmware, I guess it won't be long before someone reverse engineers it* and creates a iPhone version of Linux or something. It would be interesting to see what develops.
*I think reverse engineering violates copyrights or EULA or something so do it at your own risk! I am not condoning this action, just saying it may be possible.
*I think reverse engineering violates copyrights or EULA or something so do it at your own risk! I am not condoning this action, just saying it may be possible.
Please try not to bring this up again as you were not involved in the confrontation and because the issue has seemed to have been settled by both going in their own ways.
Not sure where this stands as of now, but I updated my MBP to the latest iTunes and QT and as long as it says current for my iPhone is 1.1.1 and the 1.1.2 is NOT from an Apple site that I recognize. I'll not touch it.
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For everything the iPhone doesn't do, there is a list of 10 things no other phone has ever done. I'm more than happy with mine as are many millions of other people buying them. Perfect, no.... but on the road to being the best handheld device ever....by a wide margin. That's my opinion, delivered respectfully and without a bunch of misdirected anger.