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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon

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linux2mac said:
Going back to Windows for BD is not worth these headaches. That's why I have a dedicated BD player.:rolleyes:
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Such a shame the Mac is incapable of stepping up to the plate and offering playback of movies in the highest quality; something worthy of being shown on an HDTV (like Apple shows in their advertising) or on a 2560x1600 cinema display. They used to actually be good at that kind of stuff. :confused:

Also wondering when they will be removing DVDPlayer.app from OSX.

Also a shame that a toy video game console can do something the Mac, which costs 10x more, cannot.

PeterQVenkman said:
That's a very good point. My landlord has a European copy of Disney's "Song of the South" that the higher ups at Disney would rather he not own, simply because he lives in the USA and Disney thought we might be offended by it.

It seems the trend was away from DRM for a while (music), and is now moving back towards it (video).
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DRM never really went away on video.

I've had business dealings with the movie studios in the past in the digital streaming realm. If people think the record companies are bad, they ain't seen nothing yet as far as the movie studios go. The movie studios are draconian and unyielding with their DRM. They make the record industry look flexible and considerate in comparison.

Since the dawn of VHS, they have hated that people can "own" a movie -- they ultimately want pay-per-view and actually gave us a sneak peek with the original Circuit City backed Divx (you had to pay for every 48 hour viewing window and discs were tied to players). The goal is pay per view, and DRM-laden low quality downloads finally make this possible. The noose is already around our necks even with iTunes, it just hasn't been tightened all the way. You don't have to pay-per-view (yet) but you can only authorize 5 computers and you can't resell anything you buy once you're tired of it, and you can't lend a copy to a friend.

The movie studios also want to revoke content. Your example of politically-incorrect "Song of the South" is apt. Many movie studios, notably Disney, are fond of putting out titles for a limited time and then removing them from the market. With digital content they can now revoke titles customers have "bought".
 
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Mac.World said:
With Light Peak aka Thunderbolt, cloud services, iTunes and the App Store, why do we need optical drives? I haven't had one in my MBP now for nearly a year. And have never needed it in all that time.
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- I have dual ssd/hdd and placed my superdrive in a USB enclosure - i agree, i rarely need to use my dvd except to install osx/ and imaybe the odd thing or two in win 7 (bootcamp)

-i think apple should drop the optical drive and have x2 sata 3 hdd options inside the MBP

-i also think apple should endorse BD as u user upgrade, giving us, the consumer the choice to buy an external BD drive - i would like to use the BD drive for keeping certain media, and ripping my blurays on my time capsule

dh2005 said:
I have several things to say in opposition to this.

1). "we"? I don't mean this aggressively, but please, speak for yourself.

2). Cloud services are fine for trivial things, but the idea of not having physical possession of something that's important to me is simply unacceptable. When I sit down to watch a film or television show from a DVD or Blu-ray disc, I refuse to be at the mercy of my internet connection.

3). Thunderbolt? It's a great idea, but has anyone seen it doing anything, yet?

4). iTunes is fine for the "I can't tell the difference" crowd. But for the people who look at and listen to their media more carefully, it's mediocre in quality and value.

5). It's not that I'm wedded to "optical drives", per se. I just want unadulterated 1080p video and HD audio in a form that I can physically possess - and my only route to that at the moment is Blu-ray. When bandwidth reaches the point at which I can download a 40GB 'Blu-ray-quality' movie file in ten or fifteen minutes, and the subsequent download becomes my permanent physical property (not a rental), then I'll happily say goodbye to optical discs myself. But I don't think we'll be there for a while, yet...
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very true; the cloud idea is very nice on paper - its like buying things on itunes account - and if like me you had u're iphone + laptop stolen at the same time - if i did not back my apps up, apple claimed i could not have an option where i authorise my computer and itunes automatically downloads all my music/video/apps onto a new machine using my old itunes login!
They should address this issue if they really want to push forward the cloud, as the thought of having to write down all my purchases and then re-download them again onto new mac is somewhat daunting! I was really lucky i had made a usb copy of my old iphone restore, which included my itunes purchases... and thank the lord when i restored my new iphone as new - voila my apps and music was there!

As for streaming HD content onto either apple TV or PS3, on my samsung big screen, 46" LED, i definitely can tell the difference between 1080p vs apple's 720p - and an even bigger difference, is with the audio, especially when TV is coupled with a half decent home theatre set-up

janstett said:
I somewhat disagree on your outlook for Blu-Ray (given it is outpacing DVD at the same points in the two products' life cycles). But I think you've got an excellent point on :apple:TV. I shopped for a high end HDTV earlier this year, money-no-object. The manufacturers are now differentiating themselves on all their built-in online widgets, that's where the new feature war is. There's no need for an Apple TV when the TV already does it, built-in.
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Exactly, i have the samsung 9000 series LED, the widgets are still in it's infancy, but it supports dlna - so i can play my movies directly from my time capsule, after a few mods. The tv has optical out which i connect to the home theatre - thus bypassing the need for either a ps3/apple tv as i can stream hdd storage direct to my TV. They need a lot more work on the widgets, but i can not see why a blockbusters/love film widget could easily replace the apple TV. Easily one could argue there is no need for consoles anymore, like the ps3/nintendo wee, as these could all be adapted as payable widgets... the list and opportunity is endless...

However, as mentioned above, what if you're left without interent access???

Hence, in these instances i would always want a physical or at least a copy of my purchases that is not reliant on net access

Finally, i believe a[pprox 60-80% of the worlds' population still does not have the access to internet that would allows 1080p streaming!
 
Winnychan213 said:
Do you really have to bash windows every single post? I used both Windows and Leopard before and they both have their shortages and advantages, in Windows if you know what you are doing then you will be just fine. (especially with the virus or trojan problems)
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I don't have to when even a Microsoft executive bashes Windows. What makes this so hysterical is that I have seen several posts by Windows fans pointing out how inferior Macs are because they lack BD support, and now a MS executive admits to the higher quality of Macs over Windows PC's. You heard it straight outta Redmond. ROFLMAO.

Microsoft's Rahul Sood says every PC industry exec should use a MacBook
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/01/microsofts-rahul-sood-says-every-pc-industry-exec-should-use-a/
 
linux2mac said:
I don't have to when even a Microsoft executive bashes Windows. What makes this so hysterical is that I have seen several posts by Windows fans pointing out how inferior Macs are because they lack BD support, and now a MS executive admits to the higher quality of Macs over Windows PC's. You heard it straight outta Redmond. ROFLMAO.

Microsoft's Rahul Sood says every PC industry exec should use a MacBook
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/01/microsofts-rahul-sood-says-every-pc-industry-exec-should-use-a/
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At no point did he bash windows. He was bashing hardware companies for making poorly designed hardware. Last time I checked Microsoft didn't make PC's or laptops.

On the subject in hand. Apple will likely add blu ray when it has gained enough market share for them to deem adding it worth it. Which going by the rate of blu ray growth I would suspect that would be around 2012 or 2013
 
Yes, use a MacBook to cut cake

linux2mac said:
Microsoft's Rahul Sood says every PC industry exec should use a MacBook
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/01/microsofts-rahul-sood-says-every-pc-industry-exec-should-use-a/
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The photo on that page says it all...

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wonderspark said:
If you don't have to, then why do you do it every post?
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Because he's got to justify his $1200 (before tax) core 2 duo mini somehow.


Gotta say though, love me some MacBook Pros. They are Apple's flagship line and it shows. The latest processors and tech, solid construction, nice display...

But plain ol' MacBooks? I can live without the giant stain/hair/crumb/dust attracting rubber padding and plastic construction. If I wanted that, I could buy an el cheapo toy from Best Buy.
 
AidenShaw said:
The photo on that page says it all...

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I agree, especially with his coincidental wearing of a HP shirt at the time. Sour grapes for failing to capture the $1000+ market Apple owns. It just goes to show you that people are willing to spend more money for a quality machine rather than pay less for garbage machines with a built in BD player.
 
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linux2mac said:
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I agree, especially with his coincidental wearing of a HP shirt at the time. Sour grapes for failing to capture the $1000+ market Apple owns. It just goes to show you that people are willing to spend more money for a quality machine rather than pay less for garbage machines with a built in BD player.
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ummmm, chocolate

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I think they said it best on ZDNet:

Really, Blu-ray support is the best Windows 7 feature that Microsoft could home in on … something which, depending on the cost of the notebook, might not actually be present on YOUR Windows 7 notebook.

Oh, and Windows 7 doesn’t support Blu-ray out of the box anyway … it needs a third-party player.

If that’s not enough, the fact is that people aren’t all that worked up about Blu-ray anyway.

LAME.
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http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/...u-ray/10334?tag=content;search-results-rivers
 
The great thing is when BD is added to the Mac product line it will be magical and revolutionary. :rolleyes:
 
iEdd said:
It's also against the rules to be a troll.
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How in the world am I a troll on a Mac forum continually defending myself against Windows fans attacking me for converting to Mac? :confused:

Umm, before I started my own consulting firm, I was a Microsoft trained applications developer and employed at a Fortune 100 Microsoft shop. I think I am pretty well versed in Windows failings that go beyond the typical end user level. I am sorry, but nothing beats the stability of a *NIX system. And you won't find that on Windows.
 
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