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It's the content, baby! Look at Google rushing to put that together now. Music, Video, they tried books. If they can tie Google+ to Android, that might provide a sort of nexus, but I doubt that they'll be able to do that.
This was a big part of Jobs vision: Content. And now everyone is trying to copy that model too.
e-ink Kindles doesn't depend on contents as the Fire depends.
Outside USA Amazon doesn't have music, apps or video offers
They have music in the UK. Ive got lots of vouchers but I use spotify so dont bother.
Google is getting into the shipping business too!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/01/google-looks-to-compete-with-amazon-prime-offer-speedy-delivery/
The report has been out for over a week... and I don't think anyone has challenged it.
I think I found it:
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/11/21/piper-jaffray-android-app-revenue-is-7-of-iphones/
Well I am not with you on this, anything not supported by facts should not be argued.
I will definitely agree with you if you can provide some solid facts to prove your argument ( excerpts from annual reports,etc)
Words like hidden, concealed, etc should not be brought in an argument. They cannot be argued upon. Few days back I read a post claiming Samsung assets many times more than that are actually mentioned in balance sheets, rest are "hidden". Will you fall for that?
I have seen this report, but it doesn't have any clue for its numbers.
Sources: Androlib, Apple and Piper Jaffray estimates
This is a no-brainer. Apple does not produce its own hardware. It works with parts manufacturers to produce the components it needs. We have seen several reports of Apple investing large amounts in facilities for its component manufacturers. We also know that they produce in many cases custom parts for Apple. These R&D expenses would not show on Apple's books, but on the parts manufacturers. My use of the word "Hidden" was as a contrast to the "direct" R&D expenses that a company like Samsung will have since, as a parts manufacturer, those same are born directly by them.
Change "Hidden" to "Indirect" and you should get my point.
For example: if Sharp spent 5% of its sales on R&D and Apple bought $1 Billion in parts from them (a recent report) then it follows that at least some of that billion would have gone to R&D on Sharp's books. That's one reason its so low for Apple.
If I go to a print shop to have a large order done, and I work with their designers and they building that expense into my cost, then I have indirectly caused them a design expense. I could have done that work myself and supplied them with a final artwork. We know that sometimes Apple pays for engineering up front and sometimes that expense is amortized into the component cost. It isn't magic.
No, it isn't magic but by your logic, ALL the companies has hidden R&D expenses when they work with suppliers.
And having a low amount in R&D is not bad per se, apple does very well not investing so much as Samsung. And? Why try to artificially enlarge this figure?
Yes. But companies like Samsung produce more of their own products themselves so the ratio between those two figures is different.
The important thing is we would all agree that Apple's suppliers R&D budget would be smaller without Apple. We all know that Apple is very demanding and drives the technology it uses.
Apple produce innovative designs, that's it. The suppliers, for example, SAMSUNG, do the hard work of getting all of the parts to work together. That is why Sammy's R+D budget is through the roof, while Apple can spend millions on playing around with fancy cases.
Who developed the tooling and production facilities for the uni-body MBP? It sure as hell wasn't Apple. They just thought of the idea.
I am not trying to artificially inflate this figure, but it is important when comparing different R&D expenses to understand this. Google has a VERY large R&D budget for its size. Apple in the 80s also did. What it learned was that this unfocused expenditure was not efficient (I know, I was there at the time). Google now is realizing that too and focusing its efforts.
One way Apple keeps this under control is by farming the R&D out to its subs. This why it doesn't have to have the staff. It only keeps engineers for the critical components like for ARM development.
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Actually, I don't think this is true. I've seen interviews with Ive where he talks specifically about that. When I was there they actually purchased a supercomputer to do laminar-flow analysis for plastic molding.
Every company makes such indirect investment when they buy parts from outside. Even Samsung does not make all parts themselves, they buy from Nividia and other companies.
In fact from this argument it follows that even I am making an indirect investment in Apple R & D, when I am buying their product.
It seems a silly argument, I fear.
Just because the Samsung products are beating the crap out of Apple's iPhone and iPad, it does not give Apple any reason to take the competition to court.
Talk about babies! Apple grow up!
Hey, and while you are at it Apple, come out with some real features like 4GLTE, BIGGER screen, etc.
Oh, and by the way, Siri does not work, the iPhone heats up like a stove, calls drop constantly, the screen is yellow, well the list goes on. I had every stinkin problem, that is why I have a Samsung now. The Galaxy SII is an OUTSTANDING phone!
Talk about babies! Apple grow up!
Hey, and while you are at it Apple, come out with some real features like 4GLTE, BIGGER screen, etc.
Oh, and by the way, Siri does not work, the iPhone heats up like a stove, calls drop constantly, the screen is yellow, well the list goes on. I had every stinkin problem, that is why I have a Samsung now. The Galaxy SII is an OUTSTANDING phone!
Difference is that you don't order the design...apple does. We don't hear about Samsung making the kind of demands on their suppliers for their phones and tablets that apple does. Maybe they do and we don't hear it. But even the gorilla glass was taken to a new level by apple. Do you really think phone technology would be where it's at without apple?
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apple has 80% of the tablet market and each iPhone models leads the category in sales. GO SAMSUNG GO!
Siri works for my two iPhones and doesn't heat up and I've never had a drooped call on my 4s. GL
How dare you bring up facts on this board. HATER!!! That's what you are!!! Someone from Apple might read your post. We need "Tim" to know we love him, and are behind him 100%, just like we were with "Steve"...
Hate is NOT the answer. If you're not willing to sing the praises of every Apple product (and give your unconditional love to "Tim") why are you here... There's too much "Anti-Apple" posting here lately. You need not think for yourself - Just love Apple as much as we all do!!!!
Like you've been doing this whole thread ?
Also, JAT : Why do you keep insisting any post here needs to be positive towards Apple. I own an iPhone 4S, I own a MacBook Air, my GF is also an iOS/OS X user. Yet here I am believing what Apple is doing down-under is downright wrong.
The injunction is unnecessary. They are both dominating the market, and if Samsung is found in infringement at the trial in March, they can get damages in a money award. The injunction is only hurting the customer. The Galaxy Tab being on the shelves would not hurt Apple at all.
Especially considering the lawsuit is about very precise patents on technology and not on trade dress or trademark.
I am an Apple user. I like my Apple products. I also like my Samsung products, my Sony products, my Dell products, my HP products. If I didn't, I'd sell them and buy different stuff. Liking one does not mean I have to hate the other because the CEO of the company said so. It also does not mean I need to pick sides. I make far less money in a year than these corporations. If they want me to be a poster boy for them, they can write me a check. Until then, I'm free both criticize and congratulate them as I see fit depending on their actions.
Funny how when apple steals an idea from android like the notification updates for ios5, or when apple stole the idea to use a volume button to take a picture, or when apple stole the idea for wireless syncing, the apple zealots froth at the mouth defending apple. Yet those same zealots are furious over the galaxy tab because apple tells them to be outraged. Steve used to just wave his hand like Obi Wan and the drones would follow, now they are so well trained thy don't even need the hand wave to blindly react.
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This is getting ridiculous. The Samsung Galaxy Tab isn't an iPad clone. It's also ludicrous to think that consumers would somehow be confused or even choose the Tab over iPad (in substantial quantity). This pointless litigation is retarded.
This is getting ridiculous. The Samsung Galaxy Tab isn't an iPad clone. It's also ludicrous to think that consumers would somehow be confused or even choose the Tab over iPad (in substantial quantity). This pointless litigation is retarded.
Like you've been doing this whole thread ?
Also, JAT : Why do you keep insisting any post here needs to be positive towards Apple. I own an iPhone 4S, I own a MacBook Air, my GF is also an iOS/OS X user. Yet here I am believing what Apple is doing down-under is downright wrong.
The injunction is unnecessary. They are both dominating the market, and if Samsung is found in infringement at the trial in March, they can get damages in a money award. The injunction is only hurting the customer. The Galaxy Tab being on the shelves would not hurt Apple at all.
Especially considering the lawsuit is about very precise patents on technology and not on trade dress or trademark.
I am an Apple user. I like my Apple products. I also like my Samsung products, my Sony products, my Dell products, my HP products. If I didn't, I'd sell them and buy different stuff. Liking one does not mean I have to hate the other because the CEO of the company said so. It also does not mean I need to pick sides. I make far less money in a year than these corporations. If they want me to be a poster boy for them, they can write me a check. Until then, I'm free both criticize and congratulate them as I see fit depending on their actions.
QFT Best post here in a long time