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Apple Releases the MacBook Pro
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one thing I don't like is that they broke compatibility of the power supply.
I still have one of the old round ones and two of the new ones, and they all work fine, so they are strategically placed at home/work so i don't have to carry them around and/or dive behind furniture to find the available plug. they could have easily introduced this new magnetic gadget (completely meaningless, IMO) and keep compatibility.
even more of a pain in environments with multiple PB which will not all be updated to MB all at the same time.
stupid decision (IMO)
I still have one of the old round ones and two of the new ones, and they all work fine, so they are strategically placed at home/work so i don't have to carry them around and/or dive behind furniture to find the available plug. they could have easily introduced this new magnetic gadget (completely meaningless, IMO) and keep compatibility.
even more of a pain in environments with multiple PB which will not all be updated to MB all at the same time.
stupid decision (IMO)
Wow....after reading through the majority of these comments, I'm thinking the MacBook Pro isn't really the best laptop Apple can offer - yet. Why can't the MBP have a 2 GHz processor like some of its PC laptop competitors? I am assuming that, like everyone else, this is just a transition machine. I really really wanted a Powerbook (as I refuse to call it a MacBook as well) - but now that the specs and such are out, in some ways it seems like a step-backwards for Apple. Hopefully this "flagship" system will upgraded and up to par with it competitors before May or June of this year comes around. That's when I'll need a laptop most, and I have saved up for over a year to buy a Powerbook. I would hate for my machine to be anywhere close to a disappointment. 
Lacero said:
Another good reason is that the FW 800 connector is badly designed. All FW 800 cables I've used have been easy to knock out of the port. This is not too bad for a desktop but is a real issue with a laptop. Connecting/disconnecting FW 800 while the computer and/or the external device is powered up has caused some real problems with frying the FW controller. In addition, there have been some real problems with people connecting FW 800 cables upside down and frying their firewire controllers.
In my book, all good reasons for leaving FW 800 out of the new laptops.
dreamcast said:
Oh suck it up and stop complaining... Oh and the screen is NOT duller, can you say 67% increase in brightness. Also I highly doubt real "Pros" would need a dual layer DVD burner, they would have a main machine for that. Also there is no way it will now take you 7 hours compared to you so called 2 hours... just please, suck it up, nobody wants to hear your whining, if you would like join another thread full of whining
is this the end of the PB?(when intel is al done)
and then end of the iBook?(when and intel cheaper Mactop is out) MacBook and MacBook Pro?
and then end of the iBook?(when and intel cheaper Mactop is out) MacBook and MacBook Pro?
ansalmo said:Rubbish? It's INSANEby stevep said:
$1999 in the US, £1779 in the UK. That's over $3100 according to xe.com.
My credit card's going back to bed too, particularly with nothing smaller than a 15.4" model - that's too big for a portable IMHO. Roll on the MacBook Amateur...
I'm only caught up to page 5 or something so apologies if this has already been said but can UK buyers please note that, as is said every time a new product is release or re-priced, you haven't compared like-for-like with regard to taxes.
I make the 'premium' being charged in the UK ~7% which is hardly unfair.
U.S. $2499
U.K. £1514 ~ $2671 = ~6.9%
FrFr 2257 ~ $2723 = ~8.9%
Eire 2255 ~ $2720 = ~8.8%
solaris said:I wonder why Apple decided to downgrade the SuperDrive. From an 8x (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW) to a 4x (DVD±RW/CD-RW).
Half the speed and no Dual Layer!
may be to keep it at the same price...
i have never burned a dual layer DVD anyway, not easy to find in the UK and very expensive, it seems like BlueRay will catch dual layer before there are really commonly used at this rate...
features
some features are missing that i really like,
fw 800, some type of video out besides dvi, pci slot (what the hecks is expresscard anyway), modem(kidding). I think it s a brilliant design, i also want to know what kind of battery we are getting. i remember seeing an acer with a similar proc getting 6 hr battery i hope the mac book can claim the same. Im excited for my bro to get one for his art school. I will wait on the first gen intel powermacs, assuming they rock the socks off of the g5.
some features are missing that i really like,
fw 800, some type of video out besides dvi, pci slot (what the hecks is expresscard anyway), modem(kidding). I think it s a brilliant design, i also want to know what kind of battery we are getting. i remember seeing an acer with a similar proc getting 6 hr battery i hope the mac book can claim the same. Im excited for my bro to get one for his art school. I will wait on the first gen intel powermacs, assuming they rock the socks off of the g5.
GregA said:
the annoying thing is AUSTECK (SP) who manufacture the iBook for apple, were showing off a Core Duo lapton that was a carbon copy of the iBook. it had an even faster processor than the macbook. very annoying. apple could have easily released an iBook today, but didn't. why? cos it would have showed up the macbook. lame.
AUBPsych said:
Maybe, maybe not. It's still a pretty good machine, even if it isn't quite the pinnacle of what it could be. Given the smaller market, etc. selling Macs that are slightly off of the top spec isn't necessarily a bad move - most don't need the absolute best power, they need a good balance between power and price.
The big problem is that the power/price ratio is screwed - it isn't the best performer, but it carries an absolute premium price tag.
aswitcher said:
I agree. And then Apple could lure XP users over to the Apple platform, perhaps they would start playing around with OS X as a result, and then get hooked on it as well and forget about XP!
This is my next laptop - nice stuff.
That is, when REV, B comes out and I stop throwing up in my mouth a little.
That is, when REV, B comes out and I stop throwing up in my mouth a little.
iSee said:Wow! Well, if you can afford to buy that many songs, you can probably afford an ExpressCard FW800 port for your Macbook. Let's see, at 4MB per song, that around $75,000 in music!
And with 300GB of music to carry around, you're going to need one of those 8 lb. iPods
Where, pray tell, do you get an ExpressCard/34 FireWire 800 adaptor? I've only seen it in the wider 54 format. Loss of the PC Card slot is major... all the wireless broadband adaptors are PC Card!
oh my heck!
"the powerbook sucks! we want a real bus speed!"
welcome the new 4x faster macbook...
"wah! it doesn't have fw 800! it isn't 2mm thick! it doesn't have 4 days of battery life! it doesn't even have a new design!"
man i wish i had the money to get one, and here we have a collection of whining babies who turn it down. seriously, get stuffed....
"the powerbook sucks! we want a real bus speed!"
welcome the new 4x faster macbook...
"wah! it doesn't have fw 800! it isn't 2mm thick! it doesn't have 4 days of battery life! it doesn't even have a new design!"
man i wish i had the money to get one, and here we have a collection of whining babies who turn it down. seriously, get stuffed....
Krevnik said:No trade-offs on a 12 hour charge? Wow, you aren't asking for much, are ya, just some bending of the laws of physics.
Smaller/Lighter, Faster, Longer Battery. Pick any 2, but the third will suffer horribly. The real problem is that to get around the current limitations requires some RADICAL new material engineering, and technology for those is still very much in the research phase.
yup, i'm asking/demanding innovation. make it work.
i'll even settle for 7 hours of solid computingfinchna said:
Or no drive - I think Apple will eventually the SuperDrive all together. Also for all the winers that there is no 8xDL superdrive - you can buy an external for $70 or less. iDVD '06 supports external Burning if you listend to the keynote. I would have liked an 8xDL internal for convenience, but I'm sure they removed it to conserve battery life. And who uses modems anymore anyway, you can get wi-fi EVERYWHERE except BFE.
Looking forward to My 1.83 in a month or so - or hopefully earlier.
um noooo
the powermac will remain the powermac it has been so since the 80s. I dont know how long it will be before we see mac book standard instead of the macbook pro, or if we will ever see it.
dglsmhn said:
the powermac will remain the powermac it has been so since the 80s. I dont know how long it will be before we see mac book standard instead of the macbook pro, or if we will ever see it.
Diatribe said:
Not to mention that the new power adapter, while looking like a nice design, has a higher rating than the previous powerbooks.
TiBook 1GHz power supply - 45W
AlBook 1.5GHz power supply - 65W
Mac Book Pro power supply - 85W
AlBook battery - 50 watt hours
Mac Book battery - 60 watt hours
grahamtriggs said:
Oh, I absolutely agree that this machine is a HUGE step-up from the 15" PPC PB. I guess even though it has lost some key features, maybe they will be releasing a PB with Blu-Ray, etc. later on. And yes, I also strongly agree that the price/power ratio is off. But then again, you'll be paying a premium for Apple hardware anyway (hopefully this Intel transition will make the premium still kinda worth it!). I'm thinking once the 17" and maybe 13" MBs are released, we may see a price drop for the 15". The MacBook 15" is priced like a damn G4 17".
It's just when you're a poor college kid and you've saved up for a laptop for over a year, you kinda want it to have some sort of "ooh" and "ahh" about it...
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