Please don't sing the kickstand part.....please....
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It's just awful in every way.
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Please don't sing the kickstand part.....please....
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It's just awful in every way.
Its alittle misleading as the surface with a 12" inch screen sits between the mba 11" and 13". I think the mba 13 is $1099 and the comp sp3 is $999 + $130 or $1130. The mba 11 and 13 average out to $1000. So pretty comparable--imo. Given the screen, the digitizer and the design--i would say its a good value.
I am not a fan of the key cover nor would I ever buy this is I planned to type on my lap. But if you love oneNote and need a pen--its pretty awesome.
Sp3
Use the SP3 on my lap daily without issue. Hmm... Same processor as MBA, double the ram and right in between the 11 and 13 inch... Same price or $200 less respectively. With respect.
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With Windows 10 and dock mode this is already a reality. Can't wait to see what Apple's answer will be. Should be pretty cool.
Use the SP3 on my lap daily without issue. Hmm... Same processor as MBA, double the ram and right in between the 11 and 13 inch... Same price or $200 less respectively. With respect.
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With Windows 10 and dock mode this is already a reality. Can't wait to see what Apple's answer will be. Should be pretty cool.
I think its netbook backlash. And gaming distorts the perception as well.
The "good enough" standard--for most--was obtained when robust video playback emerged in the mid price laptop market in 2001-03. By 2006 and the release of the intel mbp's--the golden age had arrived.
Also, imo "pricey" ultrabooks are an amazing deal. If you keep a mid range sp3 for 3 years its about $400 a year...just a bit more than a dollar a day. Pretty amazing.
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I must be dreaming too. I could swear that I am typing this on a touch keyboard while laying on my bed watching a movie (on a TV) and working on a Revit (3D) building model. I hate it when my SP3 does that!
Depends on what you need the kickstand to do. You're right that as a replacement for a traditional laptop hinge, it's not comparable. But quite honestly, at least in my use I can probably count the number of times I've needed to use my laptop on my actual lap on both hands (maybe just one). You have to remember that the stand also serves a purpose when the unit is in tablet mode too. It's actually quite a useful feature.
Yes, the anecdotal evidence from your "friend" seems legit.
Yeah, I must have imagined doing some 3d work in zBrush and Maya just the other day. Oh, and the entire Adobe suite too.
I must be dreaming too. I could swear that I am typing this on a touch keyboard while laying on my bed watching a movie (on a TV) and working on a Revit (3D) building model. I hate it when my SP3 does that!
You are funny. Everything I mentioned was taken off of MS website. Stop trolling man it's not cute lol. The Surface Pro 3 is a tablet with expensive accessories. The apps in the commercial are an added expense. MS comparing the their Tablet to a Computer ugh not impressed when its the low end of the MacBooks.
I think the MS sub stores in box retailers have been pretty well done--but lets give Apple credit. They turned the tech store into an art form and premium retail destination. I dont know if Jobs thought this up but he certainly backed it up.
I personally see the apple watch transforming the pristine simplicity of the Apple store into another hack retail experience. And just wait till they start discounting the stuff they cant sell---what a mess
The sp stylus is included with no extra cost. I do think some advertising imagery suggests the keyboard is included. I dont know any laptop that ships with a mouse--so thats a stetch. 2 pinocchios?
The surface is a nice netbook, unfortunately it's still running windows. Apple is never about hardware or software, but both working simultaneously in a perfect relationship. Microsoft will never be able to get their products to that level unless they start from scratch.
You can just use the desktop, I ignore metro Windows 8 aside from desktop program links because it feels pointless and slow.
Congrats on stating the obvious. I never said they were reviews and I make ads myself, the whole point is you should compare the points the costumer what's to hear is your <60 seconds. Price is at the top of the list.
Christmas eve Apple versus the rest
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For some customers, reasons include loss of confidence in the ability and/or desire of Apple to produce the best. Declining iOS and OS X Quality Imperil Apple's Future Growth And Retention and thereabouts.
Nice hint thanks. It's good to know that the hardware can be so inexpensive.
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I began preparing a few months ago. For me, PC-BSD is a very smart idea
That's not the only niche.
When I last checked, for work colleagues, some things that were possible with Microsoft Excel for Windows were impossible with Excel for OS X.
And so on don't expect all niches to be well-known.
In my work environment there are various reasons for preferring Microsoft to Apple for managed computers. Those reasons do include a lack of awareness, in some areas, of how Apple computers can be managed, but the prevalence of Microsoft is a major factor.
SharePoint 2010: A migration odyssey | ZDNet (2012-08-05, highlights) first in a series of ten articles.
I can understand that. I occasoinally use CrossOver, but (a) using apps for Windows with OS X without Windows does not feel as natural as (b) using apps for Windows with Windows without OS X.
Understood.
I don't know when it began, but Apple apparently avoids use of the word 'laptop'. Instead we have Apple notebooks.
http://www.apple.com/uk/mac/compare/notebooks.html and
http://www.apple.com/business/mac/ for example.
Compare the latter with localised https://www.apple.com/id/business/mac/, which still uses the word 'laptop'.
They probably do fit; I see Microsoft handwriting recognition used with Microsoft Office. The fit is not limited to integral touch screen technology.
Think SMART Board®, and so on.
Interesting. Which version of OS X was on the Apple notebook?
Do most of those people also use a Chromebook?
Are all the displays that you use with Yosemite Retina quality?
Do you mean, Mac hardware, with an Apple OS that's designed primarily for use without an integral physical keyboard?
Thunderbolt-to-VGA with Thunderbolt on the Mac side of the adapter, yes?
Amongst the factors: familiarity with Apple hardware and software, with third party software for Mac.
Also: Compare Surface Pro 3, MacBook Air, ipad
Yes, it's beautiful; yes, it looks terrible.
If I wanted a photograph of Yosemite looking relatively ugly on a Mac: I'd allow Apple's defaults, open a few apps (including third party ones that have not been given the Yosemite treatment) and last but not least: pull down a menu.
I know what you mean about subtle. Since the development of OS X Yosemite was so far from subtle, I no longer have confidence that Apple can provide a seamless experience, long term.
Phrases such as 'stale' and 'less exciting' worry me more now than they did a few months ago. Partly because a few months ago, some people used phrases such as 'old fashioned' to describe what was then the most recent release of the operating system. Moreover the phrases worry me because in Yosemite there's an excess of visual change for the sake of change.
(ctrlshft, please don't take that personally. It's a reflection on posts from a variety of sources over the past five months or so.)
We'll probably get, first, an impressive combination of software and services.
Changes to hardware are less likely to be impressive. Notebooks look notebook-like because that's essentially a good design.
The customers drove there online. Ferrari mice in designer sunglasses
I'm old enough to remember iPhone OS and my iPhone should beold modern enough to run it.
I'm also old enough to care very little about whether my cheap sunglasses make me look like a dolt
Also there are a few OSx86-related posts in topics such as OS X Yosemite Beta on Unsupported Macs; https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=20521325#post20521325 seeks clarity on what types of discussion are allowed
OS X Yosemite is probably closer to touchscreen readiness than any other OS for Mac hardware.
There's unhappiness about Apple going a bit off the rails with software.
Microsoft page title:
Mac to Surface Pro 3: Making the switch - Microsoft
MacRumors Forums topic title:
Microsoft Launches Site to Lure MacBook Switchers to Surface Pro 3
given what's below the title of the Microsoft page, the title of this topic seems reasonable.
Compare Surface Tablets: Surface 2, and Pro 3
Surface Pro 3 vs Surface Pro 2 comparison: new Windows tablet is bigger and better - but who will buy? - PC Advisor:
Whilst I'm not a fan of negative advertising, I do appreciate the humour in the video for the Microsoft product. Apple is big enough, mature enough and stupid enough to take a joke.
I'm not amused by Apple advertising Yosemite as 'Completely new. Completely Mac.' it's neither of those things.
Is it a campaign? Or just a set of resources that are avaialble for people who consider switching?
It's possible/likely that most criticism of Apple products, here, is from people who do not hate Apple. Related:
Are any of you beginning to hate Apple, for whatever reason?
I saw no suggestion that it's not certified.
+1
Thanks for the hint. For convenience:
Apple's Ultra-Slim 12-Inch MacBook Air Rumored to Enter Mass Production in Early 2015 Mac Rumors
Smart. 2009 17" MacBookPro5,2 here. Solid state hybrid drive in lieu of the hard disk drive. Something like that? (We're keeping it, reusing it. I'm just curious about your preference for older hardware.)
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Why in hell would they want to go back on Windows?
For some customers, reasons include loss of confidence in the ability and/or desire of Apple to produce the best. Declining iOS and OS X Quality Imperil Apple's Future Growth And Retention and thereabouts.
Nice hint thanks. It's good to know that the hardware can be so inexpensive.
+1
I began preparing a few months ago. For me, PC-BSD is a very smart idea
That's not the only niche.
When I last checked, for work colleagues, some things that were possible with Microsoft Excel for Windows were impossible with Excel for OS X.
And so on don't expect all niches to be well-known.
In my work environment there are various reasons for preferring Microsoft to Apple for managed computers. Those reasons do include a lack of awareness, in some areas, of how Apple computers can be managed, but the prevalence of Microsoft is a major factor.
SharePoint 2010: A migration odyssey | ZDNet (2012-08-05, highlights) first in a series of ten articles.
I can understand that. I occasoinally use CrossOver, but (a) using apps for Windows with OS X without Windows does not feel as natural as (b) using apps for Windows with Windows without OS X.
Understood.
I don't know when it began, but Apple apparently avoids use of the word 'laptop'. Instead we have Apple notebooks.
http://www.apple.com/uk/mac/compare/notebooks.html and
http://www.apple.com/business/mac/ for example.
Compare the latter with localised https://www.apple.com/id/business/mac/, which still uses the word 'laptop'.
They probably do fit; I see Microsoft handwriting recognition used with Microsoft Office. The fit is not limited to integral touch screen technology.
Think SMART Board®, and so on.
Interesting. Which version of OS X was on the Apple notebook?
Do most of those people also use a Chromebook?
Are all the displays that you use with Yosemite Retina quality?
Do you mean, Mac hardware, with an Apple OS that's designed primarily for use without an integral physical keyboard?
Thunderbolt-to-VGA with Thunderbolt on the Mac side of the adapter, yes?
Amongst the factors: familiarity with Apple hardware and software, with third party software for Mac.
Also: Compare Surface Pro 3, MacBook Air, ipad
Yes, it's beautiful; yes, it looks terrible.
If I wanted a photograph of Yosemite looking relatively ugly on a Mac: I'd allow Apple's defaults, open a few apps (including third party ones that have not been given the Yosemite treatment) and last but not least: pull down a menu.
I know what you mean about subtle. Since the development of OS X Yosemite was so far from subtle, I no longer have confidence that Apple can provide a seamless experience, long term.
Phrases such as 'stale' and 'less exciting' worry me more now than they did a few months ago. Partly because a few months ago, some people used phrases such as 'old fashioned' to describe what was then the most recent release of the operating system. Moreover the phrases worry me because in Yosemite there's an excess of visual change for the sake of change.
(ctrlshft, please don't take that personally. It's a reflection on posts from a variety of sources over the past five months or so.)
We'll probably get, first, an impressive combination of software and services.
Changes to hardware are less likely to be impressive. Notebooks look notebook-like because that's essentially a good design.
The customers drove there online. Ferrari mice in designer sunglasses
I'm old enough to remember iPhone OS and my iPhone should be
I'm also old enough to care very little about whether my cheap sunglasses make me look like a dolt
Also there are a few OSx86-related posts in topics such as OS X Yosemite Beta on Unsupported Macs; https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=20521325#post20521325 seeks clarity on what types of discussion are allowed
Put out a version with OS X on it, and I'm there
Surface Pro3 would probably be an outstanding bit of kit...if it had OS X
OS X Yosemite is probably closer to touchscreen readiness than any other OS for Mac hardware.
There's unhappiness about Apple going a bit off the rails with software.
Microsoft page title:
Mac to Surface Pro 3: Making the switch - Microsoft
MacRumors Forums topic title:
Microsoft Launches Site to Lure MacBook Switchers to Surface Pro 3
given what's below the title of the Microsoft page, the title of this topic seems reasonable.
Compare Surface Tablets: Surface 2, and Pro 3
Surface Pro 3 vs Surface Pro 2 comparison: new Windows tablet is bigger and better - but who will buy? - PC Advisor:
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clearly a step forward from the Pro 2.
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Whilst I'm not a fan of negative advertising, I do appreciate the humour in the video for the Microsoft product. Apple is big enough, mature enough and stupid enough to take a joke.
I'm not amused by Apple advertising Yosemite as 'Completely new. Completely Mac.' it's neither of those things.
Is it a campaign? Or just a set of resources that are avaialble for people who consider switching?
It's possible/likely that most criticism of Apple products, here, is from people who do not hate Apple. Related:
Are any of you beginning to hate Apple, for whatever reason?
I saw no suggestion that it's not certified.
+1
Thanks for the hint. For convenience:
Apple's Ultra-Slim 12-Inch MacBook Air Rumored to Enter Mass Production in Early 2015 Mac Rumors
Smart. 2009 17" MacBookPro5,2 here. Solid state hybrid drive in lieu of the hard disk drive. Something like that? (We're keeping it, reusing it. I'm just curious about your preference for older hardware.)
You mean to tell us your three year old computer runs slower than the Surface you purchased three weeks ago?
Yes, Windows computers run great the first few weeks you own them.
I have a Surface Pro 3 and it's an amazing device. As much as I actually like Microsoft now...the Surface Pro 3 seems like a device Apple would have made. I used Apple Computers since the G4 Cube. And there is no denying they make a quality product...and that's what the Surface Pro 3 is.
Really? Where specifically on the MS site does it say you must pay extra for a pen?
It doesn't. He's including the cost of a replacement stylus and a mouse to inflate the price and bolster his point.
Though overzealous fan that he is, I do agree with him about the Type Cover. MS is marketing the hell out the thing. Every Surface commercial shows it being used in some shape, form, or fashion, the Surface Pro displays you see in the stores always have one attached to it, and they're even building a few big Windows 10 features around the thing.
...so why the hell is it sold separately?
I'm wondering why you'd want to go with BSD over Linux? It has its advantages, but the user base, software support, and developer attention is far stronger over on the Ubuntu/Fedora/Arch side of the fence.
I meant the 'new Windows interface', which was introduced with 8. I know, its not really new anymore
Thanks
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I meant the 'new Windows interface', which was introduced with 8. I know, its not really new anymore
Thanks
and enjoy the break …Definitely the type cover marketing seems weird. Maybe they found that a lot of people already have wireless keyboards and they can get at least get started without spending that extra money.