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Leopard - sluggish
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Ok, since I had my Time Machine backup completed, I figured I'd do a clean install, and while I was at it see how well things work from using Time Machine to recover.
Results: Time Machine backup works really well, so far the only thing that didn't seem to make the trip back is my hard drive icon reverted back to the default.
As for speed, things do seem a bit snappier. Dashboard and Expose' are both a lot smoother, though every now and again I'll notice Expose' skip a bit, but nothing like before. So it seems, as noted above, clean install FTW.
Results: Time Machine backup works really well, so far the only thing that didn't seem to make the trip back is my hard drive icon reverted back to the default.
As for speed, things do seem a bit snappier. Dashboard and Expose' are both a lot smoother, though every now and again I'll notice Expose' skip a bit, but nothing like before. So it seems, as noted above, clean install FTW.
A. Clean install
B. 24" 2.8GHz iMac 4GB RAM (sig)
C. Very quick, Expose/Spaces/Dashboard all silky smooth ...
B. 24" 2.8GHz iMac 4GB RAM (sig)
C. Very quick, Expose/Spaces/Dashboard all silky smooth ...
I haven't lost a lot of space, but out of curiosity opened Activity Monitor, and I have a 51GB virtual memory file! I have more apps open than you, but still, that's pretty crazy.
A. Archive and Install
B. 2.0Ghz Macbook with 2GB of RAM
C. Much, much faster than Tiger ever was on this machine.
Definitely sluggish - new 2.0 mac mini, with 2gb memory
spaces and the dock (grid) is very jerky. Genie effect is not smooth as it used to be.
will apple fix these kinds of problems?
spaces and the dock (grid) is very jerky. Genie effect is not smooth as it used to be.
will apple fix these kinds of problems?
Did an erase & install on my MacBook (upgraded HDD 7200RPM 16MB cache)
No sluggishness here. Switching Spaces has a slight hiccup during the initial sliding animation, but for integrated graphics it's acceptable. I have EyeTV running fullscreen on an external monitor, Safari and Time Machine open on the MacBook display, and switched back and forth between space 1 & 2 (moving Safari between the two as well), and had no problems. I did this while TM is in the midst of backing up my 50+GB of iTunes data as well! I'm extremely impressed with the performance.
No sluggishness here. Switching Spaces has a slight hiccup during the initial sliding animation, but for integrated graphics it's acceptable. I have EyeTV running fullscreen on an external monitor, Safari and Time Machine open on the MacBook display, and switched back and forth between space 1 & 2 (moving Safari between the two as well), and had no problems. I did this while TM is in the midst of backing up my 50+GB of iTunes data as well! I'm extremely impressed with the performance.
MacBook (2GHz Core 2 Duo - 2GB Ram)
Archive and Install. Restart after Spotlight finished reindexing.
So far the only problem was Parallels crashed first time. I did a reinstall and now performance in the VM looks snappier - so something is benifiting from the upgrade. Performance otherwise is fine so far (once Spotlight finished its magic). Oh - I have magnification on the dock off (stupid and distrating effect at the best of times), so no issues with graphics
Rule of thumb - Whatever memory Apple put in their low end computers - you need double that to get best performance.
Archive and Install. Restart after Spotlight finished reindexing.
So far the only problem was Parallels crashed first time. I did a reinstall and now performance in the VM looks snappier - so something is benifiting from the upgrade. Performance otherwise is fine so far (once Spotlight finished its magic). Oh - I have magnification on the dock off (stupid and distrating effect at the best of times), so no issues with graphics
Rule of thumb - Whatever memory Apple put in their low end computers - you need double that to get best performance.
I have a PowerBook G4, 1.5 Ghz, 1.5 GB of Ram. I did an Archive and Install.
Its slow, no doubt about it. Everything is choppy.
Its not my ram. More ram won't help if your not paging out, since your not using all the physical ram possible. I have had Zero page outs. Window sizing and web browsing is faster. But Dock magnification, typing, Expose, Spaces... its terrible.
Its slow, no doubt about it. Everything is choppy.
Its not my ram. More ram won't help if your not paging out, since your not using all the physical ram possible. I have had Zero page outs. Window sizing and web browsing is faster. But Dock magnification, typing, Expose, Spaces... its terrible.
I doubt it's a memory issue, some people reporting here to tru it with 2.8 iMacs, which are very powerful - do you guys honestly believe this is an issue that escaped Apple and that they're going to fix it? I'm disappointed about this and also about the top bar being so transparent. I don't like the grid dock thingie either. The rest is quite nice....
I'm surprised, since its such a huge hit on performance with little more going on. Mac OS 9 to Mac OS X, fine, I can see why there would be a performance hit.
But my mac isn't doing to much more now then it was 24 hours ago when I minimized a window. Except now, the animation is all jerky...
I'm finding it much more responsive, spaces is fast, finder is fast, apps load quicker. I just did a regular upgrade (minus language files, print drivers etc)
Upgrade = Choppy, E&I = Same?
So I installed Leopard on my SR MBP 2.2 with 2gb of ram, first as an upgrade an definitely noticed that the dock magnification and even the genie effect were choppy in animation. So i said screw it, what do i have to lose. So i backed up everything, then did an erase and install; guess what? Same bloddy thing. Everything else however, such as the overall speed of things is a little better..
I'm fairly dissapointed by the animations being choppy, but otherwise i like it so far. I hope they fix this soon...
So I installed Leopard on my SR MBP 2.2 with 2gb of ram, first as an upgrade an definitely noticed that the dock magnification and even the genie effect were choppy in animation. So i said screw it, what do i have to lose. So i backed up everything, then did an erase and install; guess what? Same bloddy thing. Everything else however, such as the overall speed of things is a little better..
I'm fairly dissapointed by the animations being choppy, but otherwise i like it so far. I hope they fix this soon...
Just curious, but what sort of install did you do? I have about 40-50 items in my downloads folder, and the stack opens instantly (and is very responsive)...
The 3D Dock is jerky for me but, if I switch to the 2D Dock (the one from the side) everything was normal again. Try the 2D Dock. If you want the 2D Dock on the bottom just paste the following line in the Terminal:
defaults write com.apple.dock no-glass -boolean YES
Then hit enter and type:
killall Dock
Then hit enter.
If you want the old 3D Dock back after, you can just enter the same command except changing the word "YES" to "NO".
My old PB 1.5GHz PPC has never been faster. Haven't installed on the newer iMac Core Duo but I can only imagine it being faster.
no to first, yes to second - I did an upgrade on my Mac Pro to see what it was like before I leveled the disk and did a clean install. Much, much faster than Tiger in both cases. I do have 7GB of ram though so that could be making a difference
My install was an upgrade and most of it is really fast except for the 3D Dock is a little sluggish (minimizing and such) and moving windows around (sometimes I get a skip now and then as if it almost falls out of sync and tears a little bit ... mostly with the Finder). Other than that... everything is faster than Tiger.
17" MacBook Pro 2.33 Intel Core Duo,
Upgrade;
Faster, great redraws and animation, Safari seems really fast, my wallpaper looks better than ever, not sure if it is color or res. No Problems except I have crashed the Finder a couple of times, repeatable and obviously a bug.
Upgrade;
Faster, great redraws and animation, Safari seems really fast, my wallpaper looks better than ever, not sure if it is color or res. No Problems except I have crashed the Finder a couple of times, repeatable and obviously a bug.
I noticed that Leopard was slow at first, but after time machine had copied its files and after spotlight was done it runs way faster than Tiger. I was very disappointed at first though...but it definitely sped up after awhile.
mwdmeyer said:
*checks sig*
I though minimum spec was an 867Mhz processor, how the hell is that 450 doing it :O
A. Upgrade
B. MacBook, C2D 2.16GHz, 2GB RAM, 160GB HD
C. Expose, Spaces, Stacks, Genie Effect all noticeably jerky/slow. It's especially noticeable when you hold down the shift key to see Expose, Spaces, etc. in slow motion. The Finder, however, is clearly faster.
I'd guess it's an issues with Leopard and the GMA950. Hopefully Apple can address this through a software update. If not, I'll be extremely disappointed.
B. MacBook, C2D 2.16GHz, 2GB RAM, 160GB HD
C. Expose, Spaces, Stacks, Genie Effect all noticeably jerky/slow. It's especially noticeable when you hold down the shift key to see Expose, Spaces, etc. in slow motion. The Finder, however, is clearly faster.
I'd guess it's an issues with Leopard and the GMA950. Hopefully Apple can address this through a software update. If not, I'll be extremely disappointed.
I thought to be the only one to have problems with leopard but now I see that I'm not alone.
A: Clean Install
B: iMac 24" 2,16Ghz - 2GB RAM - Nvidia 7300GT 128MB
C: My system is really sluggish, space, expose, finder, dock animation and stacks are sluggish. I have already restarted many times but my system is ever sluggish.
Strange thing is that Leopard on my other iMac 20" 2Ghz, 1GB RAM and Ati X1600 is really fast and hasn't any sluggish problems; is faster then Tiger.
I have also reset PRAM on my iMac 24 but this hasn't sloved the problem.
I hope in a fix soon
A: Clean Install
B: iMac 24" 2,16Ghz - 2GB RAM - Nvidia 7300GT 128MB
C: My system is really sluggish, space, expose, finder, dock animation and stacks are sluggish. I have already restarted many times but my system is ever sluggish.
Strange thing is that Leopard on my other iMac 20" 2Ghz, 1GB RAM and Ati X1600 is really fast and hasn't any sluggish problems; is faster then Tiger.
I have also reset PRAM on my iMac 24 but this hasn't sloved the problem.
I hope in a fix soon