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Leopard - sluggish

HatefulMeaning said:
Hi I'm kind of new to all this but, How do I do a "clean install"?
Just to point out..
I'm running Leopard on a Macbook Pro, 2.2 GHz Core2duo, 2 GB RAM, and 160 GB hard drive space. I did a upgrade because I didn't want to lose anything but everything runs slow, typing is slow, the dock and everything.
Thanks in advance.
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When you run the installer there is an "Options..." button on the lower left. That contains the various installation types. A "clean" install is an Erase and Install where the disk is erased and Leopard is installed. All previous data is lost. An Archive and Install archives all your old system files to a separate directory and then install Leopard where the old OS was. Users and apps are preserved. If you have an external backup drive with a clone of your hard disk, I would do an erase and Install followed by Migration Assistant which will bring over all you old users and apps from the external hard disk.
 
Some people seem to have some sort of improvement with different installations, however, the problem seems to be in the graphic card drivers. We're all waiting like you for Apple to fix this. Seems to happen in Mac Book and Mac Minis. Not sure if a reinstall would help you at all - i've found that disabling the 3D dock helps a great deal - search here for how to do that.
 
The Phantom Menace

Safari is definitely faster....

However, I've tried to convince myself otherwise but I keep booting between the two OS's and I find that in Leopard:

Generally everything feels:

Not quite as slick
Not quite as polished

& A little more fiddly and a little more sluggish

than

TIGER

- installed on a 2.0ghz dual G5 PPC with 2.5 gig of ram and plenty of free space on the hard drive.
 
I've got a G4 iBook with 1.25GB of memory, and I gotta say, it is slower. You can feel it lagging from time to time, and Growl isn't as quick and as snappy as before.

But I still like Leopard :)
 
Sgt Pepper said:
Safari is definitely faster....

However, I've tried to convince myself otherwise but I keep booting between the two OS's and I find that in Leopard:

Generally everything feels:

Not quite as slick
Not quite as polished

& A little more fiddly and a little more sluggish

than

TIGER

- installed on a 2.0ghz dual G5 PPC with 2.5 gig of ram and plenty of free space on the hard drive.
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Agree. After installation of Leo on both my Macs I noticed it wasn't as smooth as Tiger, a little buggy too (but not critical).

Guess its a matter of time to get Leo as smooth or better than Tiger, but I still some new features a lot! :D (spaces, 3d dock, new Mail, etc)
 
Agree with the above. Leopard is definitely sluggish on my MacBook Pro & and new iMac 2.8Ghz compared with tiger. It appears Apple may have released it early rather than delay it again. I too like the new features and look forward to an improvement in performance via .1 update asap.
 
I upgraded from Tiger 10.4.10 on my powerbook (G4 1.33ghz 1gb ram).

Expose seems about the same, the only real sluggishness I see is with the dock. SUPRISINGLY browsing files with coverflow works beautifully. It is much faster and smoother than I figured it would be on a higher end mac.

The 3d dock is unusable with magnification. I changed to the 2d dock. I wish there were an option to get the 2d dock on the bottom of the screen.

Oh well.

Spaces works well too, just not completely smooth animation.
 
dlewis23 said:
I did a fresh install on my macbook and its really fast, [1.83Ghz 2GB ram]

Spaces is a tad slow but that is because of the GMA950. Everything else is real nice and fast for me.

My iMac with a 2.0GHz, 2GB Ram, and a x1600 flys. Much faster then tiger.
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Its not though. I installed leopard on my friends ATI 256mb 20" Intel C2D iMac. He has exact same problem. All the transitions and animations lag.
 
very frustrating as it comes and goes for me

i think it is a problem with the os as i am nowhere close to using my full 2gig of ram on my macbook and it will get sluggish

i did an erase and install
 
We're all on the same boat - Apple really messed up with this.... I wonder if I should just go back to Tiger it was flawless...
 
I was talking to Apple today about stuttering performance of stacks in grid mode. Especially when I open Applications folder. The guy said to me that they looked at their machines and all had the same issue. So it stays like this for now. :confused: I wonder if future fixes will solve that problem. One thing I am curious about is; I looked at Leopard video presentation and when the guys used his apps stack, it opened just fine and I think he had 20" iMac.
 
AppleCandidate said:
search the forum, there's a way to switch to 2d dock at the bottom - you basically type some code....
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defaults write com.apple.dock no-glass -boolean YES; killall Dock

defaults write com.apple.dock no-glass -boolean NO; killall Dock

In the terminal. The first line switches to the 2d Dock, the second back to the 3d Dock. Don't enter both at the same time.
 
I got my MB after the update in late May of 2007. I got the 2.16 Ghz and 2Gb of RAM. Even so, after installing Leopard, I've found that it takes a long time (5-10min) for things to stops freezing, stuttering and being sluggish in general. I have a crash, that includes the dark, restart screen, at least twice a day. It seems that it doesn't like Safari or my bit-torrent Azureus. I think it might have something to do with kernel tasks. But I want to try a clean install to see if it helps.
 
rolex54 said:
my ibook g4 1.33 Ghz, 1 gig ram, 120 gig hard drive, ATI 9550 clean install is running really fast, boots a little slower but apps open faster, and everything is smooth and quick for me

kind of funny since it is not a powerful machine
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nuclearwinter said:
It might be too early to call this one, but I think its Clean Install for the win.
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flopticalcube said:
I think you are correct.
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rolex54 said:
yeah i think i am sensing that pattern also
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I have a 1.25GHz G4 iMac with 1GB RAM and I tried upgrading and archive and it's still sluggish and slow. So do you think bothering to do a clean install should help? Ugh, dreading this.
 
KechersApples said:
I got my MB after the update in late May of 2007. I got the 2.16 Ghz and 2Gb of RAM. Even so, after installing Leopard, I've found that it takes a long time (5-10min) for things to stops freezing, stuttering and being sluggish in general. I have a crash, that includes the dark, restart screen, at least twice a day. It seems that it doesn't like Safari or my bit-torrent Azureus. I think it might have something to do with kernel tasks. But I want to try a clean install to see if it helps.
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I did clean install, after archive & install was sluggish, but it did not help. Performance is just the same.
 
I've been experiencing mounting problems with Leopard on my new MBP every day:

1) In Safari, whenever I go to "History", Safari locks up and I have to Force Quit.
2) The mouse (both trackpad + external) lock up, and I have to manually reboot to resolve this. This is becomming more and more frequent for me (twice a day now)
3) Random wake-up-from-sleep problems. The snooze light turns off, but the screen still remains black, yet I can "hear" the machine on.


In all, it's been a very buggy experience. But I knew/expected that going in... still frustrating though compared to Tiger.
 
A. Upgrade
B. one year old imac, 2.0ghz c2d, 1 gb ram (512x2)
C. Seems pretty much the same for me speed wise.

I have let the machine run 24/7 for the first few days so everything could index. When the initial backing up was occuring, it was definitely slower. makes sense.

i've got a 2gb (1gb x 2) arriving tomorrow. I'll run some tests before and after and report back. More ram should help, heck it always helps, right? :)
 
Leopard, any new system

I think the issue with leopard is, change and newness and x.0 release.

Think about Tiger, we had obviously TWEAKED it, repaired it, updated it, furthered it and it finally rocked and was solid. We had the OS running cherry, had our third party apps running cherry, had all the system configured as best we could for the most use, fun, productivity and reliability.

Then, came the lure of new options, new features, new productivity, new robustness and easy of use. Well, it takes time and NOTHING ever comes out of the gates perfect.

Granted, I think TIGER was a bit more baked, but then again, apple wasn't earning 25% of their revenues from ipods at that time, hadn't gone down the path of real consumer products like the iphone and wasn't the rapidly growing, name brand, tip of everyones tongue consumer growth company that it is today.

It is going to take a little time. A couple of revs, and we will be back to where we WERE with TIGER and beyond.

Speed, is a problem. There are some application problems that need to be worked out. It IS change, and with ANY change you win some advocates and you lose others.

But, it will get better. I just hope they get a lot of fixes and tweaks into that .1 release and get it out soon.
 
A. Upgrade
B. MacBook 2.0ghz Core2Duo
C. Leopard is incredibly slow. I need some of the new features, especially Time Machine and Boot Camp, but it's taking almost two minutes to boot up, as opposed to less than thirty seconds in Tiger.
 
tjf323 said:
Agree with the above. Leopard is definitely sluggish on my MacBook Pro & and new iMac 2.8Ghz compared with tiger. It appears Apple may have released it early rather than delay it again. I too like the new features and look forward to an improvement in performance via .1 update asap.
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If you look at your system log, there are some things happening behind the scenes (errors and such) that are likely sucking some cycles.

Probably enough to cause user issues on the front end, hopefully the next couple dot upgrades clean some of these up.
 
My 2GHZ 1st gen MacBook is zipping along with Leopard, definitely quicker than tiger. However, I did a clean install, have 2GB of RAM and swapped the 60GB HDD for a 250GB one before the new install.
 
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