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Maybe I'm just blissfully ignorant. However, I do know this: OS X is designed around the principle of working with multiple applications at once (hence no "maximize"), whereas Windows is geared more towards working on one application at a time. Correct?

As a matter of personal preference, I (and more importantly, my wife :) ) prefer the Windows approach.

I'm not trying to dog on OS X. It's just that I slightly prefer Windows at this point, and Windows PCs are cheaper. I do acknowledge that Macs tend to last longer and have better resale, but my current cash situation dictated that I take a shorter-term view and save money now by getting the Dell.

Yes, Macs are designed to multi-task. Even old Macs CAN run MULTIPLE apps with dozen documents / pages open at the time. No slowing down switching back and forth.

Windows have a hard time handling more than a few things at the same time (well now faster processors compensates for it, but try switching back and forth between photoshop with dozens of 50mb pictures, word, excel, web browser with dozens of tabs, email with twenty thousand messages, music player with a few hundred gigs of music in Windows), thus the NEED for windows to hide other programs and documents. It's not a feature.

I guess at this time, you prefer that because you don't know how to work with multiple things at the same time.

Think about this, when you use a large display (say a 30" 2560x1600), do you maximize a web page and try to read one web page on that display? What if you are writing a research paper and you need to reference multiple documents? What if you are analyzing data from multiple sources? Multiple Excel sheet calculations / comparisons?

Many windows people get nervous not seeing only 1 thing at a time, but once they know how to work without that bad habit (research paper example), then they can actually work better. Or if no one can show you how to use it properly you can simply extend the document to the full screen size if you want and keep it that way.

About the cost, initial cost may be cheaper, but it actually cost more overall to own pcs because you have to replace them more often. That's not counting time spent troubleshooting windows.

If money is an issue, you can always buy from Apple store refurb section, which has same warranty as brand new, and looks/works like new, except with a saving of 10% to 30% off depending on the model.

Go to store.apple.com and find "Special Deals" on that page. Different models come and go. Apple also have 0% financing sometimes.
 
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8 Reasons Windows Users Don’t Switch

by Steven Leigh

Let me say it right off the bat: Macs running OS X give the best computing experience on the planet. It’s not that Macs are perfect, but compared to everything else, there is nothing like the Mac experience. With that in mind, it’s difficult for many Mac users to comprehend why there are so many Windows users suffering needlessly by running a Windows system. That’s where I come in.

I have been a die-hard Windows user since I started computing. If you had told me I would switch to Mac at any point in the future, I would have laughed at you. There was nothing that could ever make me switch! Well, that didn’t exactly last forever, but as a recent Mac “switcher,” I have a unique perspective on both worlds. Experienced Mac users may not have the perspective that it takes to see what makes Windows users stay with Microsoft, and let’s face it, some Mac users (not you or me, of course) are just downright zealots who think that anyone using Windows should be cast into the fiery pits of Mount Doom and forgotten for all eternity. (Nerd alert!)
So allow me to take an objective look at what keeps some Windows users from switching, from the perspective of someone who has resisted switching to Mac for a long time and was looking for any excuse to stay with Windows. And once you’ve read this article, check out 8 Reasons Windows Users Do Switch to Mac to learn what is working.

1. Ignorance
Ignorance is merely a lack of knowledge, and when it comes to Macs, most Windows users, myself included, are extremely uninformed. My experiences with Macs were mostly pre-OS X, before the really good stuff began to happen, and I made a decision that Macs were not for me and never looked back. Many Windows users think they’ll have to “re-learn everything” and that nothing will be familiar. While this is partly true, Macs are so much easier to use; many beginners find it easier to do most tasks intuitively, without having to be taught or open a manual. As someone who has spent long hours teaching family and friends how to do simple tasks like email attachments, I can you tell that the same cannot be said about Windows.

2. The Office
No, I’m not blaming Steve Carell, I’m talking about where you work. Most office environments run Windows, period. While this is beginning to change, the reality is that the majority of people are using Windows at the office. If you need to bring your work home and get things done, it makes sense that you should run Windows at home, right? Not really, but the average Windows user doesn’t know about Office for Macs, or that their files will still be compatible. They don’t realize how easy it is to work across both platforms, or that they can even run Windows on their Mac when all else fails. Even if they do know these things, they figure that it will be more difficult to work on two platforms than it is worth. Apple is doing a great job lately of educating people on these misunderstandings, but it is still the prevailing thought among Windows users. Even if the Mac doesn’t get a strong hold on the business market, it’s important that people know they’re capable of it.

3. Hardware
I have always been a bit of a hardware geek, and used to enjoy building my own machines. Every few years, I would upgrade the motherboard and processor, and re-use the case, the hard drives, and power supply, and could make a significant upgrade for $400-500. I can never do this with a Mac. Hardware geeks are hard to convince for this very reason, and even average Windows users may scoff at something like an iMac because they don’t want to pay for a new monitor every time they upgrade their computer. Mac Minis are popular with Windows switchers because they can use their current monitor, mouse, and keyboard and not have them bundled as with an iMac. This is becoming less of an issue as the price of Macs have come down considerably, and technology moves so fast nowadays, you’ll likely to want to upgrade almost every component every few years anyway. As a former system-builder, I’m now at a point in my life where I would rather pay a little extra for a system that works right out of the box and has great support than save a few hundred dollars at the cost of countless hours of being my own tech support.

4. Price
The perception by Windows users is that Macs are more expensive than Windows PCs. This may have been true in the past, but the new Macs are very comparably priced to similarly equipped PCs. Unfortunately, the perception remains. Budget PCs may undercut Mac prices, but budget PCs sacrifice quality parts and support. Apple has shown that they are not interested in competing in the budget computer market, and it’s a smart move, as the margins in this area are extremely small. Windows users should consider what they’re getting for the extra money. Apple’s support is top-notch, the included software, such as iLife, is stellar, and the quality and design of the machines is always first-class.

5. Lies
Let’s face it: Apple tends to bend the truth once in a while, especially about Microsoft and Windows. One of the “Get a Mac” ads states that Windows is for spreadsheets and pie-charts, while Macs are for “fun stuff” like photos, movies, etc. To Mac users, this seems both funny and true. Windows users, however, are thinking of the aisles and aisles of games that are available for Windows, while there is a half-shelf devoted to games for the Mac. I don’t know about you, but I can only have so much fun playing with photos. Things like this just sound like lies, and they sometimes present Apple as a company that has to lie about its competitors to get business. Other ads point out flaws in Windows that are so true it hurts, especially letting people know that Macs don’t get viruses, or that Macs include a lot more useful software and less bloat than Windows. Don’t get me wrong, I take the commercials as a light-hearted jab, as they are intended, but some of them bend the truth so much that it creates mistrust.

6. Windows Bashing
Apple and Steve Jobs are constantly making jabs at Vista and Microsoft, and Mac users follow suit. That’s understandable, but when Steve Jobs is constantly berating Vista and Microsoft instead of touting the features and advantages of Apple’s own products, it makes Windows users think that Macs don’t have much going for them. I remember watching the 20 or 30 minute Vista-bashing session at the WWDC conference and wondering why Steve Jobs is so insecure that he has to berate the opposition. Can you imagine shopping for a car and having the salesman only talk about what’s wrong with the competition’s cars? This always reminds me of John Kerry, whose entire campaign was about bashing Bush instead of telling you why he was a good candidate himself. It didn’t work for him either. Apple, your products are the best in the industry. Act like it.

7. Vista
I’m going to let you in on a dirty little secret, but you need to sit down first. Windows Vista is actually a good operating system! There. I said it. The ugly truth is that Vista is the best operating system Microsoft has ever released, and for many users, it is good enough. That’s right, good enough. I really like Vista. It fixes so many of the little issues that have plagued me for years, and if I had to use Windows, it’s the version I would use. But now that I have spent time with OS X, I could never go back. For Windows users who have never touched OS X, or are resisting Macs for any of the reasons listed here, Vista is the best operating system they have ever used. I know, I pity them too, but all we can do is hope that they see the light eventually.

8. Mac Users
Okay, I’m not talking about you or me here, but there are some Mac users out there who have just a little too much love for Apple. When they are shouting (or typing in all caps) about how much better Macs are, they’re not convincing anyone to switch, they are scaring them away. Even well-intentioned Mac users can sometimes get a little carried away. I’ve had many friends lecture me for hours on end that I was stupid not to switch, and all it did was push me further away. In contrast, when I got a chance to sit down and quietly use a Mac, I began to enjoy the experience, and luckily, a friend was smart enough to answer my questions and just let me play for a while, and it made all the difference.

Conclusion:
Apple is doing so much right these days. I am sometimes awestruck by their constant stream of good decisions, but there are still so many Windows users unwilling to take the bait. I think it helps to know what we’re up against when we’re trying to convince Windows users to join the Mac side, and I hope I have provided some insight.

Did I miss some reasons? I’d love to read them in the comments.

That was a very interesting read, thank you for your input... one of the best responses that I have read in quite some time.
 
Good stuff, thanks. One of these days I may take the plunge and actually get an up-to-date Mac, because I really am open to being convinced that OS X is better.

The MacBook didn't really make sense because of cost issues and the fact that I wanted a non-glossy screen and something slightly bigger than 13 inches. Also, frankly, I'm not a huge fan of white laptops (and I'm not going to pay over $100 extra to get a black one), and the MacBook keyboard scares me a little. People say that Vostros are ugly, but they're pretty much all black, which is OK in my book.

Maybe in a year or so, I can talk my wife into letting me get a Mac Mini.
 
I fully respect your decision, and I myself have been switching between OS X and XP for the past couple of years. My neighbor's kid just got an Inspiron 1521 and it's a nice little machine, runs Vista quite nicely. As for Dell themselves, never had an issue with any machines I've purchased from them (two desktops). As for Windows, it's really not that bad. I use it on a daily basis and aside from the occasional non responding application, it has never given me any trouble. I'm speaking of Vista Home Basic, which is supposed to be the crappiest OS on the planet. Sorry people, I don't see how. I mean it's no Leopard, but it's far from a bad OS. I love my Apple machines, but I've owned 2 HP laptops and a Dell desktop, all with no problems at all.

I had an eMac for 2 years, and decided to switch back to a PC after realizing I didn't use the iLife apps that much, and really got the itch to game. Got a nice ass Dell Dimension E521 with dual core AMD processor, 1GB RAM, 160GB HD, 19" LCD for $587 a year ago. Was impressed with the machine and it was great, but I really missed using OS X. Since Panther, Apple has made many changes. Spotlight, Dashboard, Spaces, Time Machine just to name a few. All have made my productivity so much easier, and it's hard for me to adjust using an older version of OS X since Leopard.

Overall, I feel that if you really use the Vostro for nothing more than basic productivity, there is no point of getting OS X. I mean, in my opinion OS X is for people who love to do digital stuff and create beautiful things, or for people who are fed up with Windows. As for Windows users, many just like browsing the web or checking their e-mail. Most boxes are cheap these days, and they are used for basic tasks. No point of spending $1200 on something to check e-mail with now is there?
 
8. Mac Users
Okay, I’m not talking about you or me here, but there are some Mac users out there who have just a little too much love for Apple. When they are shouting (or typing in all caps) about how much better Macs are, they’re not convincing anyone to switch, they are scaring them away. Even well-intentioned Mac users can sometimes get a little carried away. I’ve had many friends lecture me for hours on end that I was stupid not to switch, and all it did was push me further away. In contrast, when I got a chance to sit down and quietly use a Mac, I began to enjoy the experience, and luckily, a friend was smart enough to answer my questions and just let me play for a while, and it made all the difference.

I agree with this statement ten fold. If I came to this site asking for advice and some idiot fanbody said "OMG MACS ARE THE BESTEREST" i would probably 1. Want to beat the sh*t out of him/her; 2. Probably leave the site and go purchase a nice HP or Dell; 3. Tell them to get a life. I love Apple, but i'm not forcing my love on anybody. If they straight up tell me "Ryan, I don't want an Apple" then I will recommend a good brand of PC for them to buy.
 
I fully respect your decision, and I myself have been switching between OS X and XP for the past couple of years. My neighbor's kid just got an Inspiron 1521 and it's a nice little machine, runs Vista quite nicely. As for Dell themselves, never had an issue with any machines I've purchased from them (two desktops). As for Windows, it's really not that bad. I use it on a daily basis and aside from the occasional non responding application, it has never given me any trouble. I'm speaking of Vista Home Basic, which is supposed to be the crappiest OS on the planet. Sorry people, I don't see how. I mean it's no Leopard, but it's far from a bad OS. I love my Apple machines, but I've owned 2 HP laptops and a Dell desktop, all with no problems at all.

I had an eMac for 2 years, and decided to switch back to a PC after realizing I didn't use the iLife apps that much, and really got the itch to game. Got a nice ass Dell Dimension E521 with dual core AMD processor, 1GB RAM, 160GB HD, 19" LCD for $587 a year ago. Was impressed with the machine and it was great, but I really missed using OS X. Since Panther, Apple has made many changes. Spotlight, Dashboard, Spaces, Time Machine just to name a few. All have made my productivity so much easier, and it's hard for me to adjust using an older version of OS X since Leopard.

Overall, I feel that if you really use the Vostro for nothing more than basic productivity, there is no point of getting OS X. I mean, in my opinion OS X is for people who love to do digital stuff and create beautiful things, or for people who are fed up with Windows. As for Windows users, many just like browsing the web or checking their e-mail. Most boxes are cheap these days, and they are used for basic tasks. No point of spending $1200 on something to check e-mail with now is there?


You make a good point which makes me think about my own situation. I really only use my computer for surfing the net, word processesing, itunes and storing photo's (not editing). I really don't demand much out of a computer unlike many other people. To me, things of chief importance are durablity, portability, quality of keyboard and long battery life. When I look at what pc's are on the market in many of these area's I don't think I would lose at all from switching. The two factors that are keeping me from switching so far is that I've been using apple computers since the mid 90's and that i like not having to worry about virus's as I surf that net. THere also are factors making me want to switch such as my displeasure with the new macbook keyboard design, the cracking of the keyboard and other hardware failures, the very moderate battery life, the high price of parts (yes I know some pc's are just as bad) and finally the terrible arrigance of mac.
 
I agree with this statement ten fold. If I came to this site asking for advice and some idiot fanbody said "OMG MACS ARE THE BESTEREST" i would probably 1. Want to beat the sh*t out of him/her; 2. Probably leave the site and go purchase a nice HP or Dell; 3. Tell them to get a life. I love Apple, but i'm not forcing my love on anybody. If they straight up tell me "Ryan, I don't want an Apple" then I will recommend a good brand of PC for them to buy.


Yes well said, to me it's always amazing to think that people can possibly get so emotional from discussing a company. I know I have used this comparision before but this forum sometimes very much reminds me of a domestic car company forum (pick one). The members waste thread after thread talking about how poor everyone elses builds cars and all the mean while patting themselves on the back for buying from "their" company
 
You make a good point which makes me think about my own situation. I really only use my computer for surfing the net, word processesing, itunes and storing photo's (not editing). I really don't demand much out of a computer unlike many other people. To me, things of chief importance are durablity, portability, quality of keyboard and long battery life. When I look at what pc's are on the market in many of these area's I don't think I would lose at all from switching. The two factors that are keeping me from switching so far is that I've been using apple computers since the mid 90's and that i like not having to worry about virus's as I surf that net. THere also are factors making me want to switch such as my displeasure with the new macbook keyboard design, the cracking of the keyboard and other hardware failures, the very moderate battery life, the high price of parts (yes I know some pc's are just as bad) and finally the terrible arrigance of mac.

To be 100% honest, i use my iMac for the same things you have listed. I'm not hard on it at all, except for the occasional game of Halo or opening Aperture every once and awhile. However, my iMac is absolutely stunning in everything it does. I've loaded it up with 3GB of RAM (which is overkill; i would have been fine on the stock 1GB) and it flies like no tomorrow. The main reason why I didn't just buy some random Dell box: Leopard. It is quite possibly the most fluid, and elegant operating system that has ever been developed. I admit, I was skeptical at first. I thought "It's nothing more than a warmed over Tiger". I threw that out the window within 20 minutes of turning my iMac on. All of the new features, and even the old features have been improved upon and made my computing experience much more enjoyable and productive than any box running Vista or XP.

But it all comes down to you. Do you think it's worth keeping OS X? Would you be just as happy with Windows? Do you want to spend the extra $$$ on a Mac? When people compare the specs of PC's and Apple computers, they always forget a crucial part: software. In the windows world, a suite comparable to iLife would probably cost $300. Yet, none of those are as beautifully integrated into the operating system like iLife and OS X are. Plus, you gotta get that anti-virus and spyware software. Sure, you can get most of it for free, but the average consumer wouldn't know that so they spend $50 on Norton Anti-Virus and $20 for Spysweeper. Add that up, and you can add that $370 to the price of any comparable PC? Hmm... the price of that sexy new Macbook doesn't look so bad now does it?

Yes well said, to me it's always amazing to think that people can possibly get so emotional from discussing a company. I know I have used this comparision before but this forum sometimes very much reminds me of a domestic car company forum (pick one). The members waste thread after thread talking about how poor everyone elses builds cars and all the mean while patting themselves on the back for buying from "their" company

Toyota and Honda fanboy's are the f*cking worst. Trust me, I drive a Camry and work at a GM dealership. "Oh my god, GM cars effing suck and Toyota RULEZ!!!!" However, it's nice to see that they are back on track with that sexy ass CTS and equally sexy Malibu. I love american cars.
 
I agree with this statement ten fold. If I came to this site asking for advice and some idiot fanbody said "OMG MACS ARE THE BESTEREST" i would probably 1. Want to beat the sh*t out of him/her; 2. Probably leave the site and go purchase a nice HP or Dell; 3. Tell them to get a life. I love Apple, but i'm not forcing my love on anybody. If they straight up tell me "Ryan, I don't want an Apple" then I will recommend a good brand of PC for them to buy.

This behavior is something we all have to live with, no matter what platform we use. You see, the instant the internet was invented, somewhere, somehow, an idiot got online. There have been billions online since and they use Mac OS, Windows and *nix. Their comments spring from a deep ignorance of the world and a willingness to display this ignorance to anyone unlucky enough to encounter them. Any discussion of the relative merits of two contemporary computer platforms brings idiots flocking to the discussion like flies on you-know-what...

...which isn't to say I'm accusing anyone here, unless you use Windows ME, in which case you must be an idiot. (j/k ;) )
 
I always get sucked into these threads...here's why

I think someone might just once surprise everyone in these forums and make a good point.:)


Still waiting for that to happen.:(
 
Toyota and Honda fanboy's are the f*cking worst. Trust me, I drive a Camry and work at a GM dealership. "Oh my god, GM cars effing suck and Toyota RULEZ!!!!" However, it's nice to see that they are back on track with that sexy ass CTS and equally sexy Malibu. I love american cars.

/OT - too bad that sexy CTS won't be getting a V8 in the near future since GM decided to kill it's V8 research (which it already had billions invested in) and up it's V6 development, vowing to kill the V8 once and for all. Yes... no V8 caddy in just a few short yrs..... that's not very american, and it surely is not what I think of in a Caddy. ;)

On topic:

Brand loyalty is prevalent in places you'd never expect. The Ford Festiva has a following of Festiva owners that have created a forum and mod them, same with the Escort. Point being that anywhere someone can fixate on something, they will.

The biggest issue is most people don't have enough well rounded experience to make a decision on a broad spectrum so they simply go with what they know. Everyone has had an experience where they have supported something and then found something better.

The world is not quite the oyster it is promised to be. You can only have what you can obtain. When you get something you are proud of it and display your pride for the product by becoming a source of information for people wanting to know about it. The problem is when that person doesn't know any better. Who are you going to ask about Ferrari's? Someone who has owned one or someone who has owned 4 different ones and has a better perspective on each ones issues, but has also owned a Benz, a Bmw, and a few Porsches?

Then we get to tunnel vision. Some people are not capable of seeing the big picture.
 
congrats on your purchase. i'm glad that this isn't one of those "i've been using win for XX yrs, CONVINCE me to get a mac" threads. i've said this before - i doubt mac is really that much "better" nowadays in the consumer/prosumer world (though "better" can get ambiguous). it all really comes down do which OS you can live with.

have fun w/ vostro, and don't forget dell has its forum, too. ;)

I love american cars.

yes, i think we can tell from your avatar. ;)

/OT - too bad that sexy CTS won't be getting a V8 in the near future since GM decided to kill it's V8 research (which it already had billions invested in) and up it's V6 development, vowing to kill the V8 once and for all. Yes... no V8 caddy in just a few short yrs..... that's not very american, and it surely is not what I think of in a Caddy. ;)

nothing to worry about, unless you drive an RS6, E63 or M5. gm has plenty of v8s to choose from, expect to see the new V in '09.
 
I don't think I've ever seen a functioning 7 year old pc laptop. Anyone?

I used to have an 8088 laptop for DOS...it was an ex-Navy machine that finally died at the ripe old age of 13...

But my trusty PowerBook 170 still works as it enters its 16th year. I continue to be fascinated by the After Dark flying toasters. :eek:
 
nothing to worry about, unless you drive an RS6, E63 or M5. gm has plenty of v8s to choose from, expect to see the new V in '09.
German V8's for me, thank you. :)
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I don't think I've ever seen a functioning 7 year old pc laptop. Anyone?

i'd have one, but it just got destroyed a couple months ago. on the other hand, my desktop will be celebrating its 10th yr in oct. :D


idk, having driven a few and seeing a bunch everyday makes me wanna try something different. i think the sleeperness of a debadged V is quite appealing. not to mention gm is offering a real manual tranny w/ 550lbs of torque. the $$ saved could also be used to start a gt-r fund. :)
 
I think the OP is correct in the sense.. that if he only browses the web and does a little word processing.. windows should suit him just fine. In fact, I think what he purchased was way too expensive for his needs.

It's just funny when he tries to justify his purchase with depicting OS X's 'flaws' :D
 
About the cost, initial cost may be cheaper, but it actually cost more overall to own pcs because you have to replace them more often. That's not counting time spent troubleshooting windows.

Sorry - that's nonsense. The build quality and thus longevity of Mac's is no better than PC's. Infact, my Macbook is the most poorly built computer I've ever owned. Given that Macs are now built from the same components which are updated at the same rate as any PC - the speed at which they become outdated or superseded is now the same.

I wish Mac users would be honest and come out and say the very simple truth about why they have a Mac:

I want to use OSX, and I'm prepared to get shafted with over priced, badly built hardware to get it.

That's it. It's not design or value or quality hardware. That's the truth of the current choice between and Mac Laptop, or a PC Laptop.

I will admit that for my Macbook. I won't recommend a Mac to anybody who want's a computer for day to day stuff, web, email, wp, - it's simply not worth it. The very cheapest Mac laptop is twice the price of a cheap PC laptop - and the difference is impossible to justify unless you really really REALLY want to use OSX.


Doug
 
It just depends on what you are used to...
This intuïtion is nothing natural, it is what you have learned through the years and now assume as "natural" and "universal"
 
Personally, I think the OP just needs to get used to leopard and macs, and how they operate. I just switched from windows to a mac a few weeks back, and at first many of those same issues the OP talked about bothered me. No right click, no maximize, etc. It literally took me about 3-4 days until I became used to the way the mac OS works, and now I think it just makes so much more sense than windows. I literally dread having to go do stuff on my windows based machines at work and at home.

The biggest issues for me in terms of OS/windows differences are following:

1) Right Click: At first I was really annoyed by the lack of a right click function on my MBP, until I found the two finger on the trackpad way of oing it. Now when I go to my Dell laptop, I get really annoyed that I cant right click that way.

2) Lack of a maximize button. This to annoyed me, until I found out how spaces work. This is a much better way of doing things with multiple windows.

3) Access to applications. To be honest, I do find having to navigate through the finder on leopard a little more cumbersome than using the start menu->programs on windows, but it probably just takes a little more getting used to.

In any case, my personal opinion is that the mac OS, is just a far superior operating system than windows.

To the OP, get yourself a mac, once you are familiar with it youll never want to go back.
 
Sorry - that's nonsense. The build quality and thus longevity of Mac's is no better than PC's. Infact, my Macbook is the most poorly built computer I've ever owned. Given that Macs are now built from the same components which are updated at the same rate as any PC - the speed at which they become outdated or superseded is now the same.

I wish Mac users would be honest and come out and say the very simple truth about why they have a Mac:

I want to use OSX, and I'm prepared to get shafted with over priced, badly built hardware to get it.

That's it. It's not design or value or quality hardware. That's the truth of the current choice between and Mac Laptop, or a PC Laptop.

I will admit that for my Macbook. I won't recommend a Mac to anybody who want's a computer for day to day stuff, web, email, wp, - it's simply not worth it. The very cheapest Mac laptop is twice the price of a cheap PC laptop - and the difference is impossible to justify unless you really really REALLY want to use OSX.


Doug

While I agree that the macbook is not top-of-the-line quality top to bottom, it's far better built than the really cheap laptops you sometimes see.
 
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