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I really can't see the iPhone costing £395 on PAYG. O2 will want to sell these phones, not have them sitting around for years til the price drops.

As someone else posted, £380 if the price for a SIM FREE Nokia N95 8GB. Handsets on Sim Free are always far more expensive. (I have a Nokia 6300 which costs £70 on PAYG whereas the Sim Free price is £140-£145).

I think the 8GB iPhone on PAYG will be somewhere near the price of the 16GB iPod Touch. They may not even release the 16GB iPhone on PAYG.

If the 8GB iPhone cost the same as the 16GB iPod Touch then that would be £269 and 16GB (32GB iPod Touch) £329 which is the same as the iPhone was on sale for perviously on contract. Which seems to be in line with other PAYG phones such as £240 for the K850
 
£380 is the price for sim free N95 8GB, that's technically not the same as it being available on PAYG.

When it originally came out on PAYG it was nearer £500.

Mobiles are usually cheaper when they're released by the networks in PAYG packaging.
Thats because the demand for the phone has dropped over time.
The most expensive phone on O2 PAYG is the Sony-Ericsson K850i - £239.99, I'd be very surprised if the iPhone was any more than £299.99.
You think the 3G iPhone is only worth £60 more than a K850i?
The K850i is free on contract..the iphone will be at least £99 so for a fair comparison £240 + £99 = minimum of £339.
Its still all conjecture but I still think £399 is most likely.
On the plus side it will help support the resell price of all the V1 iphones we have.
 
If the 8GB iPhone cost the same as the 16GB iPod Touch then that would be £269 and 16GB (32GB iPod Touch) £329 which is the same as the iPhone was on sale for previously on contract. Which seems to be in line with other PAYG phones such as £240 for the K850

I like your reasoning and hope it's no more expensive than this.

When are they going to make a decision and let the cat out of the bag I wonder?

Perhaps they are assessing the level of interest and deciding just how much they can get away with, not just for the hardware but also for the call and data charges.
 
When it originally came out on PAYG it was nearer £500.


Thats because the demand for the phone has dropped over time.

The N95 8GB is not on 'PAYG', it is not officially available from the networks as a PAYG phone. If it was it would be cheaper than £380. There's nothing stopping you using it as such but it's not the same thing as, say, Orange selling it on prepay.

As gazfocus mentioned the 6300, here's another example, play.com:

Nokia 6300 sim free - £114.99
Nokia 6300 PAYG T-Mobile - £69.99

It's cheaper because they're subsidising the cost of the handset, just not to the same extent as a contract mobile.
 
I'd expect it to be no more than the iPhone was before. But it'll probably be a bit less expensive...
 
When are they going to make a decision and let the cat out of the bag I wonder?
It says on the o2 website:
Just register your interest opposite and we'll drop you a line in early July to tell you what you need to do to be one of the first to get your hands on the new iPhone 3G.
Thats from http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/paygo

So they should say prices about a week before it is out, unless o2 decide to release the PAYG a week later to encourage people to buy it on contract.
 
The N95 8GB is not on 'PAYG', it is not officially available from the networks as a PAYG phone. If it was it would be cheaper than £380.
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It's cheaper because they're subsidising the cost of the handset, just not to the same extent as a contract mobile.

You think O2 will subsidise the 3G PAYG iPhone when its only competition is the iPhone on contract?
Bearing in mind that O2 would prefer you to be on contract than PAYG what would be the motivation for subsidising the PAYG option?
 
If they try that crap here I'll get a low end Nokia.

I could get a MAC MINI for that price! :eek:

but the fact that its the iPhone they might charge that much here, as there is nothing like it! Also getting a pocket pc phone which is what they compared the iPhone v1 to they are around that price sim free and you cant get them on PAYG. Also that would encourage people to go on contract which is what they want.
 
but the fact that its the iPhone they might charge that much here, as there is nothing like it! Also getting a pocket pc phone which is what they compared the iPhone v1 to they are around that price sim free and you cant get them on PAYG. Also that would encourage people to go on contract which is what they want.

Then they can kiss goodbye to customers like me who are not swimming in money everyday. If I had the money I wouldnt buy a phone with it, iPhone or otherwise, it could be from 10 years in future and I wouldnt pay such a stupid price for it.

I would, however, invest in Apple stock, coz if people are stupid enough to buy a £400 phone because of the Apple on the back, I am gonna get rich.
 
I was reading elsewhere that the smart thing to do is sign up for one of the contracts (perhaps the £45 to get free 8GB/cheap 16GB) and then you can downgrade (possibly to the £30 one) after 9 months?

Certainly the carrier I'm with won't let you downgrade to a lower tariff on a contract. Upgrade, yes; downgrade, no.
 
i posted this comparison in another thread but here it is again....

SAME phone....SAME network...UK v ITALY...PAYG PRICES.

I assume it is because of the VAT/Taxes being different etc. just a guess.;)

Its should give you an indication to what the iphone price should be around...only time will tell.
 

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i posted this comparison in another thread but here it is again....

SAME phone....SAME network...UK v ITALY...PAYG PRICES.

I assume it is because of the VAT/Taxes being different etc. just a guess.;)

Its should give you an indication to what the iphone price should be around...only time will tell.

I just hope its the same case with the iPhone!
 
Certainly the carrier I'm with won't let you downgrade to a lower tariff on a contract. Upgrade, yes; downgrade, no.

My current 02 contract (not iPhone contract) lets me downgrade after 9 months. Dont no if this is the same for iPhone contracts though.... good to find out!
 
The italian price for the probably sim free iPhone sucks, I'm interested in the UK's PAYG price hoping I can find an unlocked 3G on ebay soon..
v1's price in the UK was quite similar to the one in the US,right?something like 25 dollars of difference?I don't know about the VAT..
still, right now it seems like if you will be buying a 3G in the US for 199 or 299 and decide one month later you don't want the contract you have to pay 200$ more,so you can actually have an iPhone w/ GPS payed 429-529$
what about the UK conditions? do you really thing the PAYG version will be locked, what if you buy one with a contract and pay the fine for "leaving" it a month later?do you have a locked and probably not guaranteed iPhone in your hands?for how much?
Thanks
Cheers
 
IMO the Pay & Go iPhone will be about the same price as the Italian one. Maybe even a little more with the currency change and stuff. I don't see the iPhone creeping into iPod touch price range. If this happened it would seem as though Apple would be shooting themselves in the foot. Why would you buy an iPod touch if you could get an iPhone for the same, or a little more, price. They need to keep a distinction between the two. Thats what I think anyway. Could be completely wrong. But it won't be cheap.
 
it's also possible IMO that Apple wants to sell more iPhones than iPod Touches at the moment, due to the whole hype and all..
i think the PAYG prices will be lower than the italian ones and we'll see discounts for the Touch line soon, 64Gb when it's cheaper and 32Gb iPhone eventually
 
it's also possible IMO that Apple wants to sell more iPhones than iPod Touches at the moment, due to the whole hype and all..

i think the PAYG prices will be lower than the italian ones and we'll see discounts for the Touch line soon, 64Gb when it's cheaper and 32Gb iPhone eventually

I would expect its O2 that sets the price for the iphone in its market, so why would they want to sell cheap PAYG iphones for a low profit margin when they get a minimum of £729 from a contract iphone?
 
I would expect its O2 that sets the price for the iphone in its market, so why would they want to sell cheap PAYG iphones for a low profit margin when they get a minimum of £729 from a contract iphone?

pardon my pedantry but you can now get a £30 contract so minimum iPhone total is £639.

Bit miserly on the mins/text for £30 though.....
 
pardon my pedantry but you can now get a £30 contract so minimum iPhone total is £639.

Bit miserly on the mins/text for £30 though.....

at £639you are paying for all your minutes, your texts, your data, the 'free' wifi hotspots all the services over 18 months. calculate the cost and you'll see that the cost of the iphone is around 40%...do your research, the iphone is a normal phone afterall and they are going to price it at similar spec payg phones, O2 is a business, they are not going to charge sky high prices for a payg because hardly any people will buy the phone and the payg sales will go *rocket falling to explosion* They can also get almost £1000 minimun on some contracts but the payg version of the phone is way way way less! :)
 
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