10.3.9 and Java Glitch

[Tuned MP5T]

Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_05-141.4)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2-38, mixed mode)
Robin-Tulsirams-Computer:~ TunedMP5T$

Does this mean I'm ok? 😕

 

[ShnikeJSB]

2005-002 Security Update worked for me

'01 TiBook 667, had the Java Segmentation problem once I updated to 10.3.9, installed the 2005-002 Security Update, and everything is back to normal. -JB

 

[wrldwzrd89]

It is the wierdest thing. I own a iMac G4 and new iBook G4. On both computer's, only when it feels like it in, in a java applet, the lower case t doesn't work. This all started after the update. Hit shift and t and the capital T works. STRANGE!!

That's strange, and bad news for you considering your username has 4 of those lowercase t's in it. I'm suspicious that you have some third-party software installed that ties into/uses Java - if my theory is right, this program should NOT be working correctly either since you updated.

 

[njdude]

Virtual PC 6.1 was affected

First time I've had a problem with anything coming through Software Update and I've installed everything since 10.1. The Security Update 2005-002 reinstall fixed it for me without reinstalling Java 1.4.2 Update 2.

Ditto, - The 10.3.9 update affected Virtual PC 6.1. It would not respond and I had to force quit the application. When I restarted the application, the desktop to Windows would appear, but nothing worked and the application had to be forced to quit. After installing SU 2005-002 it is now working properly. The Java did not require updating for me either.

 

[Wyvernspirit]

It is called common sense. There is no real reason to have your day to day user have admin rights. In fact, I think it is a real mistake that Apple promotes running as admin. But whatever, I have my Mom and my Grandma running as admin, just so I don't have to explain logging out and installing and then logging back in. They don't have problems, but it certainly is not the best idea in the world for Apple to do it that way.

-mark

Other then the "explaining to mom and Grandma" thing, what you say make sence for non technical people to have the computer set up in standard (non admin) user mode. It doesn't say why a tech person, as stated, should not run in admin mode, which is what I had questions on.

One reason I run in admin mode is so I don't have to deal with problems with file permissions. Everything has me as the owner not some other User. I do not have root enabled, and I would say running in root would be a bad idea, just don't see a problem with admin if you know what you are doing.

 

[dmarkman]

I'd guess that most if not all of the Java developers had the Java3D stuff installed. If they had that, it seems the problem doesn't occur. The 2005-002 security update just replaces Java components that the 10.3.9 update trashes if you've not got Java3D.

I've updated two machines. One had no problem at all but I'd installed Java3D and all the other Java updates along the way. The second did have problems and it hadn't the Java3D update as that didn't get delivered via Software Update.

so called "10.3.9 java glitch" has nothing to do with java in general
and java3d in particular
about 10 my coworkers successfully updated to 10.3.9 all of them don't have any java3d or JAI libraries installed. they just followed my recommendation to quit ALL applications/processes before update
I'd wish that Apple fix its updater so updater will ask user to quit all running application before update from other hand Tiger doesn't require prebinding
its libraries so I don't anticipate problem like "10.3.9 java glitch" on Tiger

 

[gregorypierce]

As an FYI Apple released at least 3 developer preview builds of Mac OS X 10.3.9 to developers starting as far back as the last week of March, including the very build that was released to the public. Interesting that no Java developers detected this issue since it would have likely affected them more directly then anyone else (they often have Java applications running for example).

Test my app on 10.3.9 or test my app on 10.4 (and the new java subsystem). Not to hard to figure out which route developers would likely choose 🙂

 

[fluidinclusion]

No Problems, but

No problems here after install. Checked Java -version in terminal too. Safari does seem a bit slower though. Probably just me or this site.

 

[YS2003]

The update was done without glich for Al15" and Al12". For 15", it was from 10.3.8 to 10.3.9 via software update. For 12", it was from 10.3.7 to 10.3.9 (combo) via software update. There was no need for installing 2005-02 security update and Java update.

For my Ti PB (running 10.3.8), Safari was not usable after 10.3.9 update. Even after installing the previous security update and Java update, the problem was not solved. So, I did clean-install OS and ran a combo update to 10.3.9 via software update. Everything works well.

All of my PB did not have any 3rd party plug in for Safari.

 

[avkills]

Other then the "explaining to mom and Grandma" thing, what you say make sence for non technical people to have the computer set up in standard (non admin) user mode. It doesn't say why a tech person, as stated, should not run in admin mode, which is what I had questions on.

That's the problem. Standard mode for Apple is running as admin. Oh well. It does not really matter I suppose for home systems anyway.

-mark

 

[Wyvernspirit]

That's the problem. Standard mode for Apple is running as admin. Oh well. It does not really matter I suppose for home systems anyway.

-mark

Sorry for any confusion, but when I said "standard mode" I ment a user with no admin privileges, but not hamstrung either.

 

[hulugu]

The update was done without glich for Al15" and Al12". For 15", it was from 10.3.8 to 10.3.9 via software update. For 12", it was from 10.3.7 to 10.3.9 (combo) via software update. There was no need for installing 2005-02 security update and Java update.

For my Ti PB (running 10.3.8), Safari was not usable after 10.3.9 update. Even after installing the previous security update and Java update, the problem was not solved. So, I did clean-install OS and ran a combo update to 10.3.9 via software update. Everything works well.

All of my PB did not have any 3rd party plug in for Safari.

When you updated did you have applications running in the background? Supposedly, if you were running a Java app during the install it would munge up Java. Just a theory.

 

[Blue Moon]

Our Troubles Are Over Dudes

In your software update is a Java Update for Mac OS X 10.3.9. (532KB)

And I quoteth:

"This update will correct issues affecting some Java users following the installation of Mac OS X v10.3.9 Software Update.

For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n301382."

 

[YS2003]

When you updated did you have applications running in the background? Supposedly, if you were running a Java app during the install it would munge up Java. Just a theory.

When I run updates, I unplug USB hub, firewire HD, and any other accessory from PB and only run software update. During updates, my PBs are plugged in for steady power supply.

 

[Billicus]

This is rediculous... Safari still unexpectedly quits when I terminate the application from the dock or by pressing OA - Q... What gives?

X(

 

[masterapple04]

hmmm...

Just as a side note, I was in an Apple Store today, and found that they had yet yet updated the store Macs. Either they just don't care because Tiger is so close, or Apple doesn't like their own update... 😎