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10.4.8 is out
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Just installed it. After 5 mins so far so good.
Things not fixed:
The resize cursor in the finder for resizing columns that went missing in 10.4.0 is still missing as of 10.4.8
Widget memory still bloats to about 3x normal after installation and reboot, Rebooting again (or logging out/in, or quitting the Dock) resolves it.
Probably others, as soon as I get around the update a little more.
Miscellaneous:
Finder remains at version 10.4.6, which explains the cursor issue noted above.
Oddities:
For the first time ever, after installing updates from 10.3.1 until now, the setup assistant appeared after installing the update and rebooting. Never happened before, but no big deal. Got a chance to see the little "hello, Tiger" movie and clicked through the rest. System settings remain unchanged.
Verdict (so far):
10.4 still suffers from general sloppiness and lack of attention to detail. All of the essential functions "just work" as expected, but there are still little fit and finish items (like the missing Finder resize cursor) that seem all but abandoned at this point. It has zero impact on usability, but it just mars an otherwise terrific OS.
Things not fixed:
The resize cursor in the finder for resizing columns that went missing in 10.4.0 is still missing as of 10.4.8
Widget memory still bloats to about 3x normal after installation and reboot, Rebooting again (or logging out/in, or quitting the Dock) resolves it.
Probably others, as soon as I get around the update a little more.
Miscellaneous:
Finder remains at version 10.4.6, which explains the cursor issue noted above.
Oddities:
For the first time ever, after installing updates from 10.3.1 until now, the setup assistant appeared after installing the update and rebooting. Never happened before, but no big deal. Got a chance to see the little "hello, Tiger" movie and clicked through the rest. System settings remain unchanged.
Verdict (so far):
10.4 still suffers from general sloppiness and lack of attention to detail. All of the essential functions "just work" as expected, but there are still little fit and finish items (like the missing Finder resize cursor) that seem all but abandoned at this point. It has zero impact on usability, but it just mars an otherwise terrific OS.
plinden said:
This got so bad at my university that I moved my file server over to Linux. I couldn't figure out why my machine would lock up with SMBD processes. Wish I would have known to just disable participating in the smb electrion process.
GDover said:
Even though cable isn't an asymetrical connection like DSL, they cap the uploads to about the same ratio of DSL (1.5Mbps/128kbps is standard for DSL). This keeps people from using this lines for servers and going nuts on filesharing. Most people never notice and could care less, and those that do have no option since DSL is even worse.
Issues ...
Someone mentioned earlier that Selective ACKs are now a feature. Went to the dslreports website to test and see if it really was true and found out that Java in my browser is now messed up.
Maybe I'll try the combo updater ...
Another weird thing ... have to type my admin name and pw twice for Disk Utility now ... now more
Someone mentioned earlier that Selective ACKs are now a feature. Went to the dslreports website to test and see if it really was true and found out that Java in my browser is now messed up.
Maybe I'll try the combo updater ...
Another weird thing ... have to type my admin name and pw twice for Disk Utility now ... now more
nomad01 said:Okay... but I'm using a Macbook.
I think it's for any Mac that supports Core Graphics, altho my 20" iMac G5 doesn't have it and never has (I'm still on 10.4.7 because of dial-up), but I just assumed it was because the display is widescreen. I thought it would probably show up for an external display?
Cursor
I was only able to screen shot before it crashed. I have now reinstalled 10.4.8 and it will not even go past the spinning disc before crashing.
Back to 10.4.7
Thanks for that, but 10.4.8 is no go for me on a 1ghz Powerbook.ingenious said:That looks like the Universal Access Zoom Cursor....
I was only able to screen shot before it crashed. I have now reinstalled 10.4.8 and it will not even go past the spinning disc before crashing.
Back to 10.4.7
QuarterSwede said:
Thanks for the tip. Checked it and my neighbors are on other channels. I have a cordless phone, but it is 5.8 ghz and did not interfere before the update.
Multimedia said:
Okay, I went ahead and repaired permissions, did a combo update install, repaired permissions again, and rebooted.
And now Mail works again! Thanks for your help!
GDover said:
Yes, I always test my uplink (since I work from home one day a week, it matters to me). I get anywhere from 320kbps to 360kbps.
I would love it if Comcast would double the upload speed - going from 3 to 6mbps downstream doesn't actually add much (and from 6 to 8 is currently meaningless), since a lot of servers seem to be rate limited. But my VPN would be so much snappier with a bit more upstream quickness.
Yikes! Just installed the update on my MBP and I'm having a few problems. Both are related to sleep. (Not mine, the lappy's.) When I shut the computer, the apple stays lit for at least 5-10 seconds before it actually turns off and sleeps. (I know it usually takes that long for the light to start pulsing, but the apple light always went off instantly. Also, when waking up from sleep, the screen stays black for a second, the desktop flashes, turns blue for a few seconds, and then finally reappears. Weird, eh?
Littleodie914 said:Yikes! Just installed the update on my MBP and I'm having a few problems. Both are related to sleep. (Not mine, the lappy's.) When I shut the computer, the apple stays lit for at least 5-10 seconds before it actually turns off and sleeps. (I know it usually takes that long for the light to start pulsing, but the apple light always went off instantly. Also, when waking up from sleep, the screen stays black for a second, the desktop flashes, turns blue for a few seconds, and then finally reappears. Weird, eh?
I have had that behavior already in 10.4.7
no problems to report here, this 10.4.8 update seems to have fixed a few problems i was having with my Pioneer drive ( i dunno why but im not questioning it). things have speed up finder is more responsive. the GUI moves better. all in all its a good point release. i hope they fix other stuff that is still broken in the final release of tiger. seems like every update has shown improvements in the GUI speed and finder speed. i have rebooted a few times so far to test the boot speed and the boot seems faster also. ive had my AIO on all day and not a crash or a hiccup yet.
Updated my MacBook to 10.4.8 yesterday. No problems so far. Infact everything seems a tad faster. iWork seems more responsive, as does the entire system. Boot-up seems the same (I havnt timed it though). I noticed that the free space now updates automatically after emptying trash (although I didnt wait for it do to so in 10.4.7-i just force quit-ed Finder and it updated).
thogs_cave said:
Given that the specs for the new intel XServes includes an SAS option that woud be a safe bet...
http://www.apple.com/xserve/specs.html
You just can't buy one yet. I suspect one of the reasons 10.4.8 was released was to incorporte support for the new servers. Guess there must be something in the kernel that has to change as the XServes run OS X Server. Given that SAS devices are shown in the profiler Apple obviously updated that at least to support new hardware.
WLAN problem
Hello all,
I found out something more about the WLAN problems. It doesn't have anything to do with radio interferences, but with security features.
My network uses WPA-PSK. The router (Zyxel) has an option "ReAuthentication Timer" in its settings. It was set to 3600 seconds (= 1 hour), that was
the default value. This sounded like the intervall in whitch I was kicked off the network.
I set it t 30 seconds and I was kicked off the network every 30 seconds. I set it to 10 seconds and was kicked every few seconds. I had to use a cable to reset the value to something else, because 10 seconds was not enaugh time to do it in the web interface.
I was never kicked off the net under 10.4.7 even when I used it for more than the 3600 seconds default time out. XP on the same machine is still able to keep connection even when the time out is set to 10 seconds. (But very sluggish....)
Sadly it is not possible to turn the time out off (at least not without disabling encryption at all), and the maximum value is 9999, that gives me nearly 3 hours of online time.
Christian
Hello all,
I found out something more about the WLAN problems. It doesn't have anything to do with radio interferences, but with security features.
My network uses WPA-PSK. The router (Zyxel) has an option "ReAuthentication Timer" in its settings. It was set to 3600 seconds (= 1 hour), that was
the default value. This sounded like the intervall in whitch I was kicked off the network.
I set it t 30 seconds and I was kicked off the network every 30 seconds. I set it to 10 seconds and was kicked every few seconds. I had to use a cable to reset the value to something else, because 10 seconds was not enaugh time to do it in the web interface.
I was never kicked off the net under 10.4.7 even when I used it for more than the 3600 seconds default time out. XP on the same machine is still able to keep connection even when the time out is set to 10 seconds. (But very sluggish....)
Sadly it is not possible to turn the time out off (at least not without disabling encryption at all), and the maximum value is 9999, that gives me nearly 3 hours of online time.
Christian
Wlan
I am not using WPA for now, just WEP. The disconnects are very random. I did check to see if the wireless channels were overlapping and this does not seem to be the case.
Sometimes I can get the signal to work for 30 minutes, sometimes it only lasts 30 seconds.
I'll look into this some more to verify. However, since I am going to install a new hard drive in the MB, I will be going back to whatever version in on the install CD (10.4.6 or 10.4.7?). I am going to hold off on the update if my wireless woes disappear after the clean install.
I am not using WPA for now, just WEP. The disconnects are very random. I did check to see if the wireless channels were overlapping and this does not seem to be the case.
Sometimes I can get the signal to work for 30 minutes, sometimes it only lasts 30 seconds.
I'll look into this some more to verify. However, since I am going to install a new hard drive in the MB, I will be going back to whatever version in on the install CD (10.4.6 or 10.4.7?). I am going to hold off on the update if my wireless woes disappear after the clean install.
This sounds really bad from colour profiles to wi-fi problems. I don't know what to make of this but I'm glad im staying on 10.4.7, I'd be really pissed if I was getting drop outs all the time from this update.
Sorry for the newby question, but I'm a newby. What's the difference between the combo updater and the incremental updater and why is the combo better? Also what does it mean to repair permissions?
My G4 Mac Mini now sleeps properly! I have a NexStar GX external USB hard drive that is supposed to turn off automatically when the computer turns off. It never did though, until after this update. It must be a part of the "3rd party USB support". Now that it turns off on its' own, the Mini stays asleep rather than waking up within seconds of going to sleep.
I've noticed no problems after the update on both my G4 Mini and my BlackBook. Happy so far, and off to test my bandwith to see if there has been any improvement.
I've noticed no problems after the update on both my G4 Mini and my BlackBook. Happy so far, and off to test my bandwith to see if there has been any improvement.