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10.8 GM - lag improvements?
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i guess the concensus is even with mountain lion, the RMBP still doesn't deliver the much smoother UI experience you get from way older macbooks. great
What consensus? Most who own it says it runs fine, most who say it doesn't don't even own a rmbp.
BTW - my 2010 MBP 17" is not faster
Well according to this thread, many owners are saying the lag is still present while other owners are saying "who cares if it has a little lag?"
Hell, I just read a persons posts about how their RMBP was absolutely flawless with no lag at all, and then all of a sudden changed his mind and apparently returned it because he couldn't stand the minor but noticeable lagging!. People lie to themselves when they need to.
I could care less if safari performance has improved. The only time I ever use it is to test websites in production.
i guess the concensus is even with mountain lion, the RMBP still doesn't deliver the much smoother UI experience you get from way older macbooks. great
really? mine runs great and smooth all the time... I noticed slight issues... barely.. that have been EXTREMELY blown out of proportion (and things I could reproduce on some of my older non-Retinas)... but since running 10.8 GM, my rMBP is just fantastic on everything. Is there sometimes some stickiness or "lag" when scrolling fast on a few web pages... yes... does it happen on my other 3 older style MBPs too... yes...
No UI animations such as swiping to dashboard are choppy at any retina settings, in both Lion and ML. (for now). Considering they made Safari so smooth I'm hoping the UI animations will get the same treatment soon.
how do I reproduce that? I an't get any choppiness with Mission Control, Dashboard, or anything like that with the ML GM. Tried the 1440x900 HiDPI and the 1920x1200 HiDPI res too.
Three finger swipe into your dashboard and look for tearing (edit or choppiness) as the spaces transition, its quite apparent to me under integrated or discrete.
edit posting a video to youtube momentarily
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i can kind of notice something if I look really hard using the Intel graphics... i normally have the nvidia on all the time since I'm plugged in, and maybe my eyes just aren't that great, but it runs fine to me.
http://youtu.be/GgZV3MODSNw (integrated)
http://youtu.be/9m8cfYahi-E (discrete, no tearing currently but not very smooth)
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Lag? Choppiness? If you think that video shows lag then I don't know what that word even means anymore.
This is clearly a case of you guys looking for a problem that isn't there from that video.
Show me some real lag and I'll accept it but that video shows nothing and I have 3 macs and 2 pcs in my house so I can recognise lag very well.
This is clearly a case of you guys looking for a problem that isn't there from that video.
Show me some real lag and I'll accept it but that video shows nothing and I have 3 macs and 2 pcs in my house so I can recognise lag very well.
Maybe it's is just me, or maybe it is the fact that youtube plays at like 30fps, but I'm not seeing it.
The Daft Punk was pleasant, though.
But that would be way too organized and useful
The video was taken with an iPhone so the quality isn't the greatest, but I can see it in the video and certainly in real life.
But I'm confident Apple will resolve it, for those of us able / willing to see it.
The rMBP has made me stop using expose, spaces and fullscreen apps. I also tried to disable animations of any kind whenever it was possible. Furthermore I have resorted to using the terminal as much as possible for file management and text editing. Anything else is just too bloated and laggy. Thats how bad it is.
I hope they can resolve this with the current hardware
I hope they can resolve this with the current hardware
Wow thats hardcore, I would prefer the UI animations were more smooth but it's not bothering me enough to use terminal for file management
I'm with you hoping for an update to smooth it out.
I don't see any lag here. I do see slight tearing but then again it is present on every mac when switching to dashboard.
Is it? I didn't notice it on my old MBP before I got rid of it, although I didn't look for it before starting to read macrumors forums. Going to check the iMac
edit: nope, my mid 2010 27" imac goes into dashboard with no tearing and a way smoother transition.
But that would be way too organized and useful
Apple does not need to hire alpha/beta testers to test their products because they know that their loyal early adopters will do the job XD
Joking aside, although Apple is probably taking seriously those problems, reproducible critical issues will get higher priority.
Well, this thread got horribly disrailed from my original post, as expected, but thought I'd let you guys know I've switched to using native 2880x1800 resolution - and zooming in pages/increasing font sizes where necessary. It's actually pretty sweet - loads of screen area, and most importantly, my rMBP actually feels fast - no UI lag etc.
How does switchresx actually work? Does it turn off the scaling process that goes on in the "background" in order to display at true native resi? That does seem like it would be less stressful on the resources, than the system having to generate say 3840 in order to be scaled to 1920.
When it comes to performance, both hardware and software play an important role. A good and performant hardware with a poor software implementation is useless, and vice versa.
Assuming that HW sizing is fine, the challenge for ML is to keep cpu and memory resources well balanced between applications' logic and UI...