Don't you realize? That's why people buy such an expensive laptop...to view Facebook.
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10.8 GM - lag improvements?
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Don't you realize? That's why people buy such an expensive laptop...to view Facebook.
I've never got the point of facebook and I guess I never will. Having said that, I am not sure why people spend all of their time scrolling up and down websites instead of just reading the content. When did scrolling through the entire website with one flick become the number one activity during one's computer use? Unless you're actually scrolling up and down long websites, you won't notice it.
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No, because there have been hundreds already reporting this, with videos. Anandtech have reviewed the issue quite extensively. Why would we need more? I guess you guys enjoy going around in circles over and over?
Yes, the UI dips to about 30 FPS at times on the rMBP, as opposed to 60 FPS on the classic MBP. Get over it. Some people don't mind it; some people do.
Some of us care about it and want to know if it's improved by the GM. Why don't you get over that?
The guy was going to the Apple store to check it out. He wasn't going to report back on any improvements offered by the GM since none of the Macs in the Apple stores were running Mountain Lion the last time I checked. So you wouldn't have found out what you care about. Instead, we would be repeating what we know already.
True, but you bit his head off when he likely didn't understand that distinction. My retort probably wasn't focused well, but I think the poor guy just wanted to help.
More like people don't want to look at an LCD screen running non-native resolution. Yes, I'm know about pixel doubling and how 1440x900 would be clearer than other resolutions. It still wouldn't be native clear.
Or because setting it to 1440x900 on a 2880x1800 native res panel would make everything blurry. smh
looks barely blurry... really not that bad unless you compare them side by side. The smaller the pixels are, the less blurry screens look, and the Retina has really tiny little pixels.
Am I right that there is no UI animation issue at the "best for retina" setting (1440x900) which would offer the same screen real estate as non retina display macs but way better clarity, right? Is the UI animation issue only present at scaling settings which provide more screen real estate?
Lol. The point is that if it can't handle something as simple as scrolling through a facebook page, what makes you think it will be futureproof? Web sites and programs are only getting more complex. This is a $2200 machine, so you'd hope it would last a while.
Not even going to continue to waste my time with people making statements like this.
Man, I hope Mountain Lion comes out soon. This scroll lag is getting very annoying.
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is it because his point is valid? my 2008 MBP unibody scrolls better than my rMBP
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is it because his point is valid? my 2008 MBP unibody scrolls better than my rMBP
He can simply install Firefox 14.0b10 and it will scroll faster than anyone! But not with retina graphics
My iPad 3 can smoothly scroll through Facebook at 2048x1536 with a CPU that is slower than a Atom and GPU that is slower than a ION.. basically it can't even beat a decent netbook from 2 years ago. What makes you think it can't be a software browser rendering issue?
Definitely has to be software!
Another funny thing...
If i have it set in "Best For Retina" (1440x900) mode, switching between Safari (in full screen) and the desktop i have some "lag", almost at the end of the transition!
If I have it in the "More Space (1680x1050) mode, it is 100% fluid!
All this with Intel graphic only!
I think this isn't very optimize and Apple will spend future ML updates fixing this
Another funny thing...
If i have it set in "Best For Retina" (1440x900) mode, switching between Safari (in full screen) and the desktop i have some "lag", almost at the end of the transition!
If I have it in the "More Space (1680x1050) mode, it is 100% fluid!
All this with Intel graphic only!
I think this isn't very optimize and Apple will spend future ML updates fixing this
it's not a software browser issue because a lot of people have noted ui lags and choppiness. It could be a software issue though in general. Problem is the ipad doesn't render twice the resolution and then halves it and in some res re-adjusts to fit the screen. There's a further problem in that ios is a very optimized os, it's a kernel above darwin, and it's where apple's dev. efforts are clearly focused. Sadly os x has been left behind.
Everyone in the market for a rmbp (I ve not pulled the trigger yet, but I am planning to, very soon) would like all this to be software related. But then another question arises. Will they be able even it's software related to fix their software enough? Or will this be forever a compromised first gen model and apple will do their usual os x trick of just throwing better hardware to the problem once new gfxs are out in v. 2?
Lion in macs, a few years old, has some choppiness in terms of ui rendering. That too is a software issue. The core 2 duos on which lion is ui dog on, dwarf the arms on the ipad. Yet the issue is there, it hasn't been fixed by software. Software is extremely hard to develop, debug and optimize. If apple aren't allocating enough resources, it simply won't be fixed. Even if they were allocating the appropriate resources to os x, that wouldn't be a guarantee that they 'd fix it.
Not entirely sure about the iPad3 being that smooth, some people (myself included) can see the page distort and wiggle when scrolling, especially in portrait mode. Akin to the "magic rubber pencil" trick, except it's pixels this time.
However, some of the YT videos I've seen of rMBP stutter (legit or not) are a lot worse by comparison.
However, some of the YT videos I've seen of rMBP stutter (legit or not) are a lot worse by comparison.
Do you own a rmbp? I do. And I only experience lag in the browser. The non best for retina scaled resolution run fine under the dGPU but not in the iGPU. That scaling you mentioned does not occur at the best for retina resolution and runs fine in both the iGPU and dGPU.
Did I say I didn't own a rmbp? I did.
Did I say the scaling doesn't happen in all resolutions? I did.
Did you miss all my other points and comments? You did.