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Honestly man, an xbox 1x will game better. It's able to play Warzone at 60fps and stay right at 4k for almost the entire time. And the ps5 and series x coming this fall will SMASH this and they're going to only be like 500ish bucks.

So if you have other needs for the 5700xt then absolutely you do you my friend. Just pointing out for that upgrade price, you can literally get an entire game console and controller AND get a better experience at a higher resolution AND you don't have to play with the PC community which cheats a lot. ;)

For me the console would also require a new 4K TV which would require spousal approval. Much more complicated than ticking another box on the Apple website. ;)
 
Honestly man, an xbox 1x will game better. It's able to play Warzone at 60fps and stay right at 4k for almost the entire time. And the ps5 and series x coming this fall will SMASH this and they're going to only be like 500ish bucks.

So if you have other needs for the 5700xt then absolutely you do you my friend. Just pointing out for that upgrade price, you can literally get an entire game console and controller AND get a better experience at a higher resolution AND you don't have to play with the PC community which cheats a lot. ;)

That's ok. I'm not into console gaming. I'm a Windows gamer at heart who also has to do a lot of work on his Mac.
 
Would anyone lucky enough to have either an i7 or i9 kindly please run Neatbench and post the results for me, I'm looking at replacing my old mac with either the i7 or i9 but want to see what performance gains the 5700xt will have over the other options. Thanks in advance.
 
Would anyone lucky enough to have either an i7 or i9 kindly please run Neatbench and post the results for me, I'm looking at replacing my old mac with either the i7 or i9 but want to see what performance gains the 5700xt will have over the other options. Thanks in advance.
There are plenty of benchmarks posted in and around here. Check the memory thread for some numbers.
 
For me the console would also require a new 4K TV which would require spousal approval. Much more complicated than ticking another box on the Apple website. ;)
"hunny, look at what I found in the dumpster at work! A brand new Vizio P series quantumn X with VRR at 120htz! What are the odds?"

Easy. Put some old looking stickers on the side and you're good.
 
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I would love that! Thank you!

I just got the machine, so I'll do a test tonight and I'll let you know.

Would anyone lucky enough to have either an i7 or i9 kindly please run Neatbench and post the results for me, I'm looking at replacing my old mac with either the i7 or i9 but want to see what performance gains the 5700xt will have over the other options. Thanks in advance.

I just got the i7 with the 5700 XT Pro - I'd be happy to run Neatbench. I'll post some scores later today.
 
Ok. Well, I needed a Mac and I need to game. This iMac can do both. It may not be real to you, but it sure as heck is real to me.

No, I am not going to be gaming at 5K. But at half that resolution most games exceed 60 fps. What more kind of real are you expecting?
I’m the same as you - I really like my 2017 iMac and I occasionally want to game on it, but I can’t commit to buying a whole separate system with separate monitor just for the sake of the 1-2 hours a day that I play games.

I ordered the i7 With 5700XT.

For anyone recommending an Xbox..... no, dude, controller suck for FPS games.
 
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I would love that! Thank you!

Apparently I promised more than I could deliver. My iMac arrived today but was DOA, so unfortunately I won't be able to help you with those benchmarks - At least not for a couple of weeks while I wait for a replacement.
 
For me the console would also require a new 4K TV which would require spousal approval. Much more complicated than ticking another box on the Apple website. ;)
Oh man I hope this is a joke. While I discuss my purchases with my spouse, it’s informational, not permission-seeking.
 
Apparently I promised more than I could deliver. My iMac arrived today but was DOA, so unfortunately I won't be able to help you with those benchmarks - At least not for a couple of weeks while I wait for a replacement.
What happened? It was DOA? I’ve honestly never heard of an iMac being dead out of the box. Sorry to hear that. Keep us informed when your new machine arrives.
 
Apparently I promised more than I could deliver. My iMac arrived today but was DOA, so unfortunately I won't be able to help you with those benchmarks - At least not for a couple of weeks while I wait for a replacement.

whats going on with it
 
What happened? It was DOA? I’ve honestly never heard of an iMac being dead out of the box. Sorry to hear that. Keep us informed when your new machine arrives.

Yeah, I haven't experienced that previously either. When turning it on the fan spins up a tiny bit like I would expect it to do normally, but the screen remains completely black. And after roughly 30 seconds it shuts down.
I've tried every single thing known to man and talked to an Apple technician as well, but nothing worked. So called them up and asked them to ship a new unit, which they immediately agreed to. I should receive a new one within 1-2 weeks.
 
Oh man I hope this is a joke. While I discuss my purchases with my spouse, it’s informational, not permission-seeking.

Although this is completely unrelated to the actual topic, keep in mind that his so-called "permission-seeking" comment could be regarding the common situation where spouses budget the household income together and make large purchasing decisions together.

Also, his emoji makes it pretty clear that he's being tongue-in-cheek.

But, cool marriage bro.
 
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Yeah, I haven't experienced that previously either. When turning it on the fan spins up a tiny bit like I would expect it to do normally, but the screen remains completely black. And after roughly 30 seconds it shuts down.
I've tried every single thing known to man and talked to an Apple technician as well, but nothing worked. So called them up and asked them to ship a new unit, which they immediately agreed to. I should receive a new one within 1-2 weeks.

quick question and very important one i learned the hard way.

make sure you remove the plastic film or it will do exactly what your saying yours does. if you did not remove it thats why.
 
128 GB Ram
128 GB of RAM is completely useless unless you're doing some specific RAM intensive application. I have 32 GB of RAM on my Mac mini and that's pretty much useless for my purposes except when running multiple VMs at once. If the iMac memory was sealed I would say maybe get a little more than you need for future proof but it's behind a little cover on the back and takes less than ten minutes to upgrade. Now if you just want a system to show off or money is no object then why not max everything out before you add it to cart. I didn't read through all the responses so apologies if this has already been covered.
 
quick question and very important one i learned the hard way.

make sure you remove the plastic film or it will do exactly what your saying yours does. if you did not remove it thats why.

All plastic film was removed. I've had loads of Mac's and never had this issue. I went all in on debugging so I had the multimeter to test if there was current in the powercord, tried resetting SMC, tried rebooting in recovery mode and even went as far as to see if the computer could be revived with Apple Configurator 2 from another computer. Nothing worked.
 
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128 GB of RAM is completely useless unless you're doing some specific RAM intensive application. I have 32 GB of RAM on my Mac mini and that's pretty much useless for my purposes except when running multiple VMs at once. If the iMac memory was sealed I would say maybe get a little more than you need for future proof but it's behind a little cover on the back and takes less than ten minutes to upgrade. Now if you just want a system to show off or money is no object then why not max everything out before you add it to cart. I didn't read through all the responses so apologies if this has already been covered.

I have 32GB in my current Mac and I often end up swapping 20-25 GB on top of that and thats just with Chrome and a few other apps opened. 32GB is really not a lot today, so for me the new iMac would be a minimum of 64GB, possibly more.
 
I have 32GB in my current Mac and I often end up swapping 20-25 GB on top of that and thats just with Chrome and a few other apps opened. 32GB is really not a lot today, so for me the new iMac would be a minimum of 64GB, possibly more.
You must be using memory intensive apps. I never go over 16 GB unless I'm using VMs. I never use swap. Of course I'm doing web browsing (Firefox/ Safari), several games, MS Word, Excel. The one and only time I had swap is when I tried to open a specific MIDI file in Garage Band.
 
Yeah, I haven't experienced that previously either. When turning it on the fan spins up a tiny bit like I would expect it to do normally, but the screen remains completely black. And after roughly 30 seconds it shuts down.
I've tried every single thing known to man and talked to an Apple technician as well, but nothing worked. So called them up and asked them to ship a new unit, which they immediately agreed to. I should receive a new one within 1-2 weeks.
Wow that's just really unfortunate. I guess when they are manufacturing millions and millions of models, something is bound to happen to someone. Keep us updated when your new one arrives.
 
128 GB of RAM is completely useless unless you're doing some specific RAM intensive application. I have 32 GB of RAM on my Mac mini and that's pretty much useless for my purposes except when running multiple VMs at once. If the iMac memory was sealed I would say maybe get a little more than you need for future proof but it's behind a little cover on the back and takes less than ten minutes to upgrade. Now if you just want a system to show off or money is no object then why not max everything out before you add it to cart. I didn't read through all the responses so apologies if this has already been covered.

Oh I agree its completely overkill, not denying that at all. I just planned on having the machine for quite a long time so I just wanted to have all channels be 32GB slots. It only costs about $500 dollars in total and only about $250 dollars more than the recommended max amount of 64 so I mean its not that big of a deal in the bigger picture But yes I do agree 128 is beyond overkill.
 
Although this is completely unrelated to the actual topic, keep in mind that his so-called "permission-seeking" comment could be regarding the common situation where spouses budget the household income together and make large purchasing decisions together.

Also, his emoji makes it pretty clear that he's being tongue-in-cheek.

But, cool marriage bro.
That’s tough if you consider $2.5K a large purchase. I take home more than that each paycheck.
 
Yeah, I haven't experienced that previously either. When turning it on the fan spins up a tiny bit like I would expect it to do normally, but the screen remains completely black. And after roughly 30 seconds it shuts down.
I've tried every single thing known to man and talked to an Apple technician as well, but nothing worked. So called them up and asked them to ship a new unit, which they immediately agreed to. I should receive a new one within 1-2 weeks.
Have you tried taking out and reseating the RAM? Rough handling can loosen them during transport and cause this.
 
Have you tried taking out and reseating the RAM? Rough handling can loosen them during transport and cause this.

Yup, took out all ram and rotated it to different slots. Tried starting it with only one module inserted as well.
 
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