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This is the next life changing device. Pretty excited, this is the kind of thing 1980 movies talked about being “the future”
 
Bards Tale, except I can reach my filthy peasant hand into the worn leather bag to grab heal potion. Virtual workspaces. Being able to watch 16 channels at once. Real 3d chess.

Snow Crash anyone? And although I'm not there yet, this will be phenomenal for disabled people (or handi-capable).

20 years from now, you'll head into your college 'Introductory Roman Republic' class, sit down and jack in and take the day's class while in Rome ca. 218bc. Being able to walk inside of a fully functioning colosseum. Cultural immersion.

And so on.

Tom
 
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I wonder if these could be used to replace a standard monitor? Could it replace a Mac or iPad? You could type on a table-top while the camera watches your fingers, or in iPad mode, you could use your fingers in the air. It could emulate a wall-sized monitor.

You could sit in a chair at a terminal loby waiting for a plane and have a 60" UHD monitor with macos
 
I wonder how long it'll be before other companies copy Apple's design? Maybe they are already working on copies of what we think it'll look like. Facebook must have a prototype going.
 
I’d be onboard if they can sort out using glasses in the thing. The Oculus didn’t do it well and having to purchase additional lenses to insert into it is too much of a pain, especially when your prescription can change over time And when someone else in the family wants to use it. Make it comfortable with glasses for use, please!
 
$2,999.99.

On the one hand $2999.99 is a lot of money for most people. OTOH, this isn't the gotcha people seem to think it is. IF Apple delivered all of the specs in this article for that price, I'm pretty sure they'd be selling as many of them as they chose to make.

2 M2 chips, 10 cameras, 2 4k displays. Under 200 grams which is lighter than an iPhone 14 Pro. Using the new light weight helium/hydrogen vapor battery no doubt.
This was my first thought. Those specs sound wild... and also frankly impossible.
The M2 throttles in a MBA chassis, and the A14/A15/A16 throttle in an iPhone chassis.

You're telling me they're somehow going to fit 2(!) M2 chips, 2 4K microOLED (cutting edge) displays, a boatload of cameras and sensors, new battery tech, and its all going to be in a chassis targeting 200g (and no more than 300g) with NO external processing element (extra box, iPhone, etc)!?

I definitely believe they can build a game changing AR headset, and that if they want it to be around 200g/less than 300g, then it will be but... something has to give. Price is obviously not going to be cheap, but I also have no idea how they would cool this thing. Cooling is important because performance is important in AR/VR if you don't want to have a bad time. Headset can't get too hot because you're wearing it... nor can it have a fan so... :confused:

If they're targeting enterprise where $2999.99 would be a bargain, and the price could actually start at $4999.99+, maybe they can work some magic but even then I don't see how they can overcome the physics of all that hardware in such a small space...

In other words, I'm sure they've got something great in the works but expect it to perhaps have some, but not all of these things...
 
I suppose it will not have half of the features. But it’s the only product I’m interested in for the last 2-3 years. Always hoping to finally see it in a keynote.
 
I do think AR is the future, but a 2030 future. I think the tech of today is just... not ready yet.

The good thing about it : I have absolutely no expectations whatsoever about this device from Apple. Which means they could surprise me.
Agree. Can't think of any practical consumer applications for VR/AR today. Whatever devices made today would be too cumbersome since the component tech like battery etc are still the same. And whatever services offered would still be bottlenecked with whatever current data transmission tech we have.

Then again, we have the building blocks, like the lidar sensor, the FaceID tech, etc. Thus I agree it's something to look forward to way in the future.
 
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All this sounds great, but I'm afraid it will be out of my price range, not because I don't have the money, but the $3,000 rumors are more than I want to spend. Will have to wait and see... 🤞
 
The 11th Cutting Edge Feature needs to be included.

11. It will have lots of bugs, people will complain on forums about the bugs, Apple will ignore your reports for months and tell you to reinstall ‘RealityOS’.
 
This is the next life changing device. Pretty excited, this is the kind of thing 1980 movies talked about being “the future”

Yeah man just like hoverboards and self tying shoes and time travelling cars and lawnmower man when he lost his mind.
 
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Is this like a use in your home type of thing, or are people actually going to walk the streets in a set of diving goggles?

Well you see my friend you will be walking down the street with these diving goggles and just when you are walking across the street a software bug happens and tells you no cars are coming and the next moment you are in hospital and the diving goggles display 10000 missed notifications and emails from your boss saying why the **** you don’t reply.
 
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I highly doubt it has two M2 chips. I don't see how it can be "lightweight" but run two M2 chips on a 5nm node and still have enough batteries to be lightweight and last more than an hour. It will be one package called R1 and in that SoC it will have a lower powered co-processor to help run all the sensors. It will be on TSMC 3nm process node to be more power efficient. It won't be the M2 on 5nm, that's for damn sure.

This better be an iPhone 2007 moment for me to be willing to spend $1999. I just don't see that happening. And even if it is, if it's $2999, I'm gonna have to wait for the iPhone 4 generation equivalent at a minimum to make it worthwhile: retina display, faster with more ram in their first chip (A4), better camera, HD video, faster WiFi, more battery life, and beautiful new industrial design.

We all know how many features are quickly added and speed quickly gained in those first few product generations. I don't wanna iPad 1 or Apple Watch 1 something this expensive and have it be so freaking slow and/or with little battery life after a couple years. Even $1999 is hard to swallow! Add on top of the fact that it looks to be launching into a recession and idk about this.
 
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Lol anyone reading "4K Micro OLED display per eye" and expecting that to ACTUALLY mean ≈4000x4000p resolution per eye is in for an absolutely RUDE freaking awakening!!! 🤣

(Even an M2 w/ eye-tracked foveated rendering would blow CHUNKS at THAT high of a resolution at >=90Hz!)

It'll be either 3840x2160p per eye if they go SUPER wide FOV (ala >=160° FOV, or the same res & config as many Pimax headsets, but ofc w/ the headset itself not needing to be quite as ridiculously wide bc of the vastly smaller Micro OLEDs).

OR

2160x2160p (aka just like the latest Pico headsets or the HP Reverb, but Micro OLED) if they are going for a standard FOV (≈90-130°) w/ a smaller headset form factor.

(With in both cases the term "4K" meaning like a "4K", ala 2160p TV, NOT ≈4000x4000p!)
 
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Is 200g possible, considering iPhone 14 pro is 208g, the VR headset is much bigger, with more powerful dual-M2 chip and bigger battery?
 
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