I'll have to use it before I can judge, but it looks like a pretty useful way to manage clutter on MacOS. I spend my day jumping between a whole lot of apps and anything that makes it easier is welcome to me.
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Tell me of a piece of software that starts with and ends with X.0, because I bet you can't. Every piece of software from every developer has updates for new features, bug fixes, etc.
Tell me you've used MacOS long enough to remember when it shipped with all the promised features instead of resorting to "later this year".
no it wasn’t.
The constant vulnerabilities being found allowing for jailbreaking and such cat and mouse game between iPhone OS 1.0 and iOS 6 is really the only evidence you need to know that it wasn’t.
The fact that several versions of early iOS could easily be cracked open via the web browser isn’t a sign of secure, stable code.
Obviously vulnerabilities still happened, but when’s the last time we’ve had a huge vulnerability like that on the latest version of iOS?
Hint: it’s been a long, long time.
For comparison sake, Apple released iOS 5.1.1 on May 4, 2012, and it was jailbroken by Memorial Day that year.
Guess when that hole was patched?
September. With 6.0
Some devices like the third generation iPod touch and first generation iPad… Never got that security fix.
So… no
Literally never.
10.0.0 shipped without several features, including a DVD player, cd burning support, and several important drivers for third-party peripherals.
Leopard shipped a year late.
Mountain lion promised iCloud support… Which did not ship in the initial release of it.
Apple has always delayed features from the initial release, people just like to forget it because it’s easy to once the features are out.
From the iPhone, push notifications was supposed to ship in OS 2.0… But didn’t until OS 3.1 over a year later.
Again, easy to forget in hindsight.
iOS 4 for the iPhone launched in June 2010… But not for the iPad until November 2010.
Again, easy to forget in hindsight.
From your handle, I’m wondering if the 6th and 7th words of your second paragraph are meant as a question addressed to a buddy (Ducking)
Why a dedicated classical music app? Why not just use iTunes/Music? I get classical music in iTunes. Will they remove classical music from the Apple Music App? I presume not. So when are they going to release the Jazz app? And the Metal app? It's all just music. There's nothing special or magical about classical music is there? 🤷♂️
I'd far rather no stage manager and decent external monitor support without black bars for my 2020 iPad pro, but it seems a flashy graphics app switcher that use up more screen space is a higher priority than decent use of the vast majority of external displays. 🤷♂️
Not much of a justification in that link. They got some classical experts to make curated playlists. Sure. Put them in Apple Music along with the "experts" who pick everything else. Or is this an admission that the curated playlists are very generic and pretty crap?
If it takes a special search to find classical stuff that isn't in the app, why can't I get those kind of search features for jazz? I may well want to search for a jazz standard by composer instead of artists, etc. So Primephonic is supposedly "optimized for classical, premium-quality audio". Shouldn't all Apple music be optimised for premium quality audio and being classical makes no difference to other dynamic forms of music (and various prog rock stuff is far more dynamic than a string quartet and more akin to an orchestra). So it makes no sense to put it in a separate app when I want to listen to all styles of music and not have to have 2 apps. Just make the Music app more customisable! Sure if I look in playlists there's not much classical, it's pretty limited and you get a lot of pop rubbish, but fix it so I can customise what playlists and styles I want up front. If not, lovers of classical may get a better experience but everyone who loves jazz, or world music, or hard rock/metal, etc will still be stuck with the usual limited layout and playlists, when it could have been a great opportunity to make it really work better for everyone to get a better layout and music discovery.
Making a second app for classical and improving the current music app aren't mutually exclusive. It's all speculation, we don't know what the app(s) will be like until Apple unveils. AM has classical music now and it's a subpar experience, in my opinion. I personally welcome improvement either way, whether it's a separate app or the same doesn't really matter to me.
As far as "justification", there's no need to justify what doesn't exist yet and hasn't been announced by Apple. A year ago they said separate app, several things can change in such a timeline. I linked the post from @Krizoitz because, among several other points, I agree with the last paragraph:
The kind of customization you're calling for is overkill for most users who listen to top 40 pop and no more. Why would Apple dedicate time and resources updating AM when 95% of people won't care? Until the product update is made and feedback is received, we won't know. Sure it's cool to provide a better experience across the board, but why bother when it will go unnoticed and under-utilized.
Uh thats the whole reason why a separate classical music focused app would exist. The features I’m talking about DO matter to those listeners and 95% of them WOULD care.
Off thread topic but as others are talking about it.... a separate app for classical makes no sense to me either.
However, I am reminded of the mess that iTunes ultimately became as they started to stuff more and more things into it.
The world is much better now with the separate music, TV, and podcasts app - so if classical is in some way significantly different (again I dont really see how) a separate app is definitely the way to go.
However, I am reminded of the mess that iTunes ultimately became as they started to stuff more and more things into it.
The world is much better now with the separate music, TV, and podcasts app - so if classical is in some way significantly different (again I dont really see how) a separate app is definitely the way to go.
RIGHT??? The only feature I will probably ever use of the list of new ones in iOS 16 is editing sent iMessages because of typos. All the rest are quite ho-hum to me. It's nice to have the battery percentage indicator but it's certainly trivial.
You're misunderstanding me, I agree with your entire post, this would be fantastic for classical. I meant that this type of customization for 95% of listeners of _all music_ would go unappreciated because these users throw on the top 40 or music they have saved; the folks who would listen to radio otherwise and don't value choice past channel/genre. OP was making the case for classical to be within AM and not a separate app, because these features would matter to everyone, and I disagree on that end.
Not a single person is buying a phone for that reason alone I am sure. Nor does anyone besides you think that.
Why you would assume that, I have no idea. Well I have an idea, but I'll keep it to myself.
Because when people scream and yell that “apple’s software team sucks now” and “Steve Jobs’s Apple wouldn’t let this fly” and “work from home is destroying Apple”, I think it’s important to be one of the people who know that none of that is true.
Apple has had plenty of rough launches, plenty of delayed features, plenty of things that don’t make the initial release, plenty of bugs that sit unfixed for months at a time.
None of this is new, none of this is exclusive to Tim’s Apple.
I can see the waiting for features, but at least have the ones released to live work
Can't you keep playlists separate by naming them something with a unique character like "~Classical" "~Baroque" "~Bach" so that they are all grouped together and away from "Kiss" and "Buttrock"?
