that to me is one of the better moves apple has made recently. after that they seemed to have focused full time on the iphone and now the ipad
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Time magazine is one of the most prominent tech periodicals out there.
What remains more puzzling, however, is that he states: "Why would Time magazine make such a statement if WP7 isn't a worthy competitor to the Iphone?"
Is it true then, that now, due to the economic downturn, magazines themselves, are making statements, and issuing tech reviews?
This is rather grim news for tech writers.
My comments were meant to go way farther back than just a few years ago. For example, for decades Apple had been spouting off on how PPC was better than x86 (even equating the Pentium to a turtle on the main page of Apple.com back in the day) and pretty much over night Apple's PR machine had to completely flip from 'x86 blows' to 'x86 is awesome'. I was around during the long, drawn out death of the Moto G4, the switch to IBM (1984, what now?) and the rather quick jump over to intel so I understand the move and why they did it. It was a pragmatic decision w/o regard for marketing war they'd been waging for years.
I'm just trying to point out to the Mac evangelists wearing the blinders that even Apple uses competitors products and even Apple is self-serving and will flip flop their official opinion depending on what is best for the company at any given time. That's neither good nor bad IMO it just is the way it is. I just want Apple to make great products and I'm completely agnostic to what brand parts are under the hood or what software is used to make spread sheets. To me it's just a tool that I'll keep using as long as I feel it's the most pragmatic tool for the job.
Lethal
Right - it would be hypocritical to consider anything from Time.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/830209/
https://www.macrumors.com/2006/07/20/nike-ipod-sport-kit-time-gadget-of-the-week/
https://www.macrumors.com/2006/06/08/macbook-is-times-gadget-of-the-week/
I read in this month's LOL WUT magazine that Windows Phone 7 Series is the shiznit. It says the OS will even be tongue controllable. Not yet chewy like cake, but I'm sure that will be in rev 2.
Best LOLWUT there is.
Don't be too cocky, look in your mirror at what's approaching....
It's all fun and games until June.
Will anyone care about WPS7 when it's finally released next year?
Hopefully, by following Apple they'll actually get it right this time:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=9449630#post9449630
If it's endorsed by LOL WUT, it must be true, and must be damned good.
Tongue controllable - awesome!
As you summarized
So in nutshell:
• No ability to install apps outside of the marketplace
• No removable storage
• No drag-and-drop support
• No copy-and-paste
• No Multitasking
• Nicer UI
• More controlled User Experience
All this, by 2011.
Truly remarkable - so much for catching up.
I'm surprised you didn't mention that Apple already has a solid foothold in the tongue and nose interface market.
And by "Nicer UI" you mean "18 finger swipes to accomplish anything?" But hey, it has razzle dazzle!
Can't wait to see how the WinBots spin the app store lockdown, lack of copy/paste, lack of multitasking, lack of removable storage - you know, the things they've been raging about the iPhone for 3 years now. AidenShaw is frantically updating his dossier right now with fax transmissions from Redmond HQ. MICROSOFT MVP ALERT - ANTI-IPHONE TALKING POINTS, WP7S EDITION.
Bring on iPhone OS 4.0. Speaking of which, isn't it about time they rename that to something more appropriate, like OS X Mobile?
LOL.
WUT???
Eh? Of course G4 Cube and the puck mouse were main stream releases, I remember using them with the imac that it came with in my music classes.
I love how any Apple failure is classified as "not main stream releases" or "hobby" as in Apple TV.
I am not defending MS for those grave ommisions, but you will probably remember that when iphone first came out all the apple fans labelled it as "innovation" when there were phones out there that could do all the stuff you have listed and it was the iphone that was catching up on features.
Let's remember that it's not the feature that counts. It's the user interface and ease of use. Consumers don't care about features. That's why Apple just released the iPad.
You mean "one handy little 2011 phone that catapults Microsoft ahead of Apple's early-2010 phone." What a tribute!
Apparently to enjoy Microsoft's awesomeness one must travel to the future - while hoping everyone non-Microsoft stays stuck in the past.
Speaking of sci-fi, I'd be curious to see this utopian Microsoft Rules Everything world you dream about every night. No...wait, no I wouldn't.
Anyone can throw together features. It's how you integrate them that counts. When Apple finally included copy and paste, it was hands-down the best copy/paste implementation I've seen. Now add in an app like Pastebot, and it's easy to see why the iPhone is so great.
That's why I admire MS for not rushing to throw all these features together and taking their time to actually integrate them in a nice and elegant way, just like Apple took their time.
Consumers have shown that just because it lacks copy paste, doesn't mean it's a bad platform.
If we're going waaaaay back, let's go back to 1978 when the LISA project was just announced...
I'm certain cherry picking comments that fit with your example is "good fun", but this gets tedious arguing the same thing over and over... I am so tired of this Windows/Mac/mines bigger than yours is endless nerd battle. It's tired! Arrrgh! lol
Lord, with all the arguments from Windows lovers you'd forget this is an Apple based fan site. I'm all down for a good discussion, but after a few years of this on MacRumors it begs the question, if someone dislikes Apple so vehemently and has an obvious agenda, why do they constantly return day after day, year after year to argue with individuals they know will not agree with them? It's boring.
/end rant
...and before any one jumps down my throat, this is a general comment from the last few days of posting on MacRumors...
Hehe....
That's good. I'm sure Bill Gates is just lovin' it.
That's like one of his employes playing a Mac + PC ad in Windows Media Player DURING WORK.
That's good. I'm sure Bill Gates is just lovin' it.
That's like one of his employes playing a Mac + PC ad in Windows Media Player DURING WORK.
Multiple Finger Swipes - more to do - the Windows Way®
He'll probably be sticking with his WinMo 6.5 through all of his pointless shilling, ranting, and backpedalling - exhibiting characteristic traits of a true Windows Luddite and rambling curmudgeon.
Absolutely, OS X Mobile - a name which seems somewhat more refined than the convoluted 'Windows Mobile Series Seven,' IMO.
Microsoft - Non-prolific Figment of the Future®
I have found that one handed navigation on my ipod touch to be a big problem. The way the banners are on top and bottom, I find it best to hold using one hand and touch using another.
MS is just taking it one step further and allowing swipes just like home screens in iphone. Are you saying the iphone home screens are the Windows way since they require so many swipes?
What's there to argue about? It's a fact that Apple has had ad campaigns in the past that have touted their superiority to IBM and to intel and all of that marketing sabre ratting got tossed out then window when Apple ended up partnering w/both companies. That's neither here nor there it's just fact. It's business.
I find the ePenis measuring tiresome as well but sometimes I just can't from chiming in like when people point at 10% of MS employees using iPhones as some sort of sign of Apple's inherent superiority even though Apple depends on MS for Office and has depended on MS in the past for things like IE and the mobile POS systems that were used in the Apple stores up until recently.
Lethal
Yeah, I'm just tired of having to defend my interest in Apple products to people that have come onto this site. It's definitely important to educate yourself at to the other options in the world, but as I don't use all Apple products and have an extensive IT background, I'm pretty well informed and would rather simply enjoy a nice discussion with someone than have to go on the defense countless times. It's gotten a bit tiresome as of late
.As for Intel and PowerPC, certainly Apple may have had valid points as at the time of such comments the PowerPC chip was faster and more efficient then the current Intel processors. Over the years Intel made improvements and as such Apple joined in when IBM dropped support and development of their PowerPC processors.
All this is rather moot though isn't it? How does what happened in the circumstantial past relate to anything presently, besides finding ways to disagree with each other over irrelevancies?
Right - it would be hypocritical to consider anything from Time.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/830209/
https://www.macrumors.com/2006/07/20/nike-ipod-sport-kit-time-gadget-of-the-week/
https://www.macrumors.com/2006/06/08/macbook-is-times-gadget-of-the-week/
Its only hypocritical if the person debating it uses the Time magazine examples. You can't call DMann hypocritical for something Arn posted.
LOL, Don't expect a response from him; his hypocrisy was illuminated.
Anyways, I don't quite understand why fans from either camp would bother getting upset about liking the oppositions' products. I prefer OS X but only use Office and I love Adobe products too.
You can enjoy using a product and not get sucked up in marketing. Being on this board can sometimes sound like SJ regurgitated.
IBM was the one who approached Apple about porting the Mac OS to run on their PowerPC (RS/6000.)
IBM offered to help Apple with Pink, its GUI for Apple's Jaguar project, if Apple agreed to adopt the PowerPC processor. Seems IBM needed Apple as much as Apple needed a new processor, and a deal was struck.
Puts a different spin on Apple "moving" to IBM, doesn't it?
As for Intel, Apple had no choice in the matter. IBM/Freescale was no longer able to meet Apple's needs, and AMD just wasn't up to the task in 2005. At the time AMD couldn't compete in notebook chips, for example. The only option was Intel.
So your IBM/Intel examples are particularly inappropriate.