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Nobody stated they can't buy whatever phones they like; in fact, that's the point of the story. 10% like phones from their biggest competitor. I too expect SonyEricsson employees to use Nokia phones; I'm guessing that would get a kick out of some of the regulars at SonyEricssonrumors.com ;)

I notice you're a 68040. I'm guessing you haven't contributed, since you'd likely have taken a title to let everybody know. I doubt you'd be around if Arn negated to advertise, thus moving to a subscription model. Have a think about that before you criticise stories that secure revenue. Or else contribute, and thus justify the height of your horse.

Wow - get on your high horse today did you?

Generally, I don't think maybe people would stay around their regular websites if they became subscription.

Subscriptions generally don't work on the internet.
 
At least Microsoft allow employees to connect to their work email. In my office iPhones are banned from the corporate network, you have to buy a blackberry otherwise.

That has got nothing to do with MS or Apple, but everything with your corporate IT standards. The iPhone is perfectly able to connect to an Exchange Server.
 
I also like the more realistic litmus test poll of potential buyers and the comments section reflect reality (of HuffPo). Step outside of the compound (or Wired.com, the vacation house) it's a different world and the iPad actually has an up-hill battle.
 
So what?

Microsoft employees can buy whatever phones they like.

I expect SonyEricsson employees use Nokia phones, and vice versa.

Slow news day - another filler story to get in the advertising $$$

So What? You have to have a great product if competitors employees feel the need to risk their job by owning it.

Not sure what universe you are living in, but where I am you don't want to be seen with the competitor's product unless your job description requires it. I suspect SonyEricsson employees that overtly use Nokia phones are not likely to be SE employees for long.

Also where I am advertisers foot the bill so consumers don't have to directly shell out $, so you might want to support the advertisers rather than bash the site owner for trying to acquire them to keep your costs down and keep the site up.

A few examples:

Fired.

Fired.

Fired.
 
So What? You have to have a great product if competitors employees feel the need to risk their job by owning it.

Not sure what universe you are living in, but where I am you don't want to be seen with the competitor's product unless your job description requires it. I suspect SonyEricsson employees that overtly use Nokia phones are not likely to be SE employees for long.

Also where I am advertisers foot the bill so consumers don't have to directly shell out $, so you might want to support the advertisers rather than bash the site owner for trying to acquire them to keep your costs down and keep the site up.

A few examples:

Fired.

Fired.

Fired.

there is a big difference between a MS employee who's name we never hear and face we never see using an iphone and a Coke delivery truck driver drinking a Pepsi on the job
 
there is a big difference between a MS employee who's name we never hear and face we never see using an iphone and a Coke delivery truck driver drinking a Pepsi on the job

Well, if you are going to split hairs then what about the anonymous Coke employee that was fired for winning a Pepsi contest? Or the anonymous Miller driver who was fired for drinking a Bud in street clothes off the job?

If I wanted to dig a little more I'd find the story of the Coke executive who was fired because he had a 2-Liter of Pepsi in his personal car in the Coke HQ garage.
 
Not the site and editors, but the commenters. Try saying anything pro-Apple or anti-Microsoft in the comments section and see what happens. No, seriously, give it a try.

Anyone who spends any time on Engadget at all knows exactly what kind of mosh pit for Apple haters the comments section has become.

Yeah, cause anytime anyone posts on macrumours or Appleinsider and says anything negative about apple, thier opinions are valued?!?! They are hammered as trolls etc etc, and yes i do read endaget, and most of the Apple posters come across as smug *****. Last I checked it was not iengadget, so expect most posters being PC users.
 
Apple is still in the process of switching over the mobile Point of Sale units in their stores from Windows Mobile devices to iPod Touch base devices.

they started that before the holidays. at this point they are likely done.

Sweet little rig too. My roommie works stock at a clothing store and he's already mentioned to the bosses how something light and one handed like that Touch rig would be so much easier than the clunker guns they use now for doing markdowns and quick counts etc. Lots of other places are likely getting the same idea. Apple could make bank just on the patent licensing and the touches even if they don't market the actual software or rig

And your argument is like saying I would think it was cool if Apple Store employees did the Electric Slide in-store. No, I would still think it was completely lame - and fortunately Apple would never do it (thus the point is moot).

A few days ago at my local Apple store some of the staff did start dancing. It was hip hop not the Electric Slide so it actually fit the music. Just a couple of guys. Apparently there was some kind of kids movie workshop going on and they needed some footage so they just yelled to these two guys and asked if they would dance for the kids.

What I thought was lame about the Microsoft Store (other than the choice of music) was that someone actually lifted right behind their backs and got taped doing it. and yet even after it was pointed out by at least 50 folks on youtube, they still have the video up. fail.

iWork sucks in comparison.

My shop has been using iwork for a while and found that in fact it does not suck. Now if you really need the whole Exchange server and the fancy macros that are Office Exclusive then that's a different game. But once we got use to using iwork it hasn't been an issue.

hahaha, my kind of person, good old KM ASS personality. :D

You'd love my roommate then. Total smart ass. He went down to the Mission Viejo Microsoft store cause he needed help installing Windows 7 on his laptop (not really he was just in a mood to take the piss on them). They were all "yeah we can help you with that, it's why we are here". Pulled out his Macbook pro. He said the guy's face went white. Only thing he did wrong was not have a hidden camera.


Have we forgotten that Microsoft has an Mac Business Unit and that they still are one of the most important third party software producers for the Mac?

perhaps in Germany that is true. but here in the States, Microsoft makes two viable products for the Mac and that is Office and Windows Media Player (and some would argue on the latter as being viable). IE for the Mac is a dead product and I'm not even sure Microsoft actually still updates it. And everything else they make has been pretty much squashed by other products.

Didn't they give out iPhones to all staff a few years ago?

Yep. My cuz was working at a retail shop in NYC at the time. It was just folks that had been there a year or more but yes, they did. However that was not repeated due to the new activation requirement. They also don't get an employee discount on the handset because of the subsidy.

Steven said a lot of folks used other phones and it was never an issue. Their policy prohibited the use of any personal tech (phones included) on the floor since they were on the clock and should be working not texting etc. But during even paid breaks they were welcome to do whatever. No one really cared that it was a blackberry etc and not an iphone. Nor did he get any grief for whipping out his Dell Laptop and working on homework during his lunch.

Maybe it's different on Middle Earth, but here in the Bay Area you
can't go into a Starbucks without seeing them.

those white buds are not posing.
the coffee is so expensive that they can't afford to buy new 'phones. The Apple ones are already a day's supply of lattes. Imagine what a good pair of even Sony's would cost them. the lack of caffeine horror. ahhhhhh.
 
they started that before the holidays. at this point they are likely done.
In the other thread a member mentioned still seeing a WinMo device recently in an Apple store so there still might be some stragglers here and there. If they aren't completely done by now though I'm sure they will be soon.

I haven't seen the Touch POS systems in person yet, but it doesn't strike me as very ergonomic unit to use if you hold it like you would hold a normal Touch. I guess if what you were mainly scanning was horizontal and below you it wouldn't be so bad, but having to things that are vertically oriented seems like a PITA. I used to work at Blockbuster and periodically we'd have to inventory the entire store and for scanning thousands movies, in our case, sitting on shelves the gun form factor is better than having to use something designed to be cradled in the palm of your hand, IMO. But then someone could just make a gun form factor unit and have the Touch click into the top of it.


Lethal
 
The irony is that Ballmer himself took a dump all over the iPhone in 2007 and now it's penetrating his organization, after having obliterated a decade of Microsoft mobile development.

THAT is why the story is interesting.
 
The irony is that Ballmer himself took a dump all over the iPhone in 2007 and now it's penetrating his organization, after having obliterated a decade of Microsoft mobile development.

THAT is why the story is interesting.

So was it equally as interesting when Apple moved to IBM, and later intel, CPUs after years of dumping on those companies?


Lethal
 
The irony is that Ballmer himself took a dump all over the iPhone in 2007 and now it's penetrating his organization, after having obliterated a decade of Microsoft mobile development.

THAT is why the story is interesting.

what was he supposed to say? it's better than WinMo and will kick it's ass?
 
...after having obliterated a decade of Microsoft mobile development....

Don't be too cocky, look in your mirror at what's approaching.... ;)

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1966464,00.html

While many of us were preoccupied with cursing Windows Vista, Microsoft was busy developing a lineup of stellar non-Windows products, including the wildly popular Xbox game consoles and the Bing search engine, which is already averaging more than 3 billion queries a month. But the most underappreciated product in Microsoft's vast portfolio, the Zune digital media player, is about to roll all these products into one handy little phone that catapults Microsoft ahead of Apple, Google, Palm and BlackBerry's maker, RIM.

What sets Microsoft apart? For starters, every WP7 device, regardless of manufacturer, will have a dedicated search button that gives you one-click access to Bing — no hopping around required. WP7 will also let users play an assortment of Xbox Live games on their phones.

Both of these add-ons are certainly nice, but the real game changer is Microsoft's solution to a fundamental flaw in most mobile platforms. Instead of having to toggle back and forth between separate apps so you can check Facebook or send a tweet, the WP7 team figured out how to aggregate all your social-networking content in a People hub on your Start screen.
 
So was it equally as interesting when Apple moved to IBM, and later intel, CPUs after years of dumping on those companies?


Lethal

In your example, Apple had no choice in moving to Intel. IBM announced their plans in NOT supporting desktop/consumer grade processors, and has instead focused on server grade systems. Apple was well aware of IBM's intended plans, as well as the speed limitations on the then available PowerPC processor, and had already written OS X for Intel based systems. This allowed Apple the quick transition to Intel systems in 2006. Apple "dumped" on IBM when they were using IBM's processor, the PowerPC processor, for a long time. Apple pointed out the limitations of the PowerPC with regard to speed and energy consumption. Apple also "dumped" on Intel as at the time Intel didn't have Dual and Quad Core Processors. Once Intel developed and released the Dual and Quad core processors as a response to many [then accurate] claims that Intel hasn't improved on speed and power efficiency, Apple was more than happy to join Intel.
 
Don't be too cocky, look in your mirror at what's approaching.... ;)

That's a lot of supposition, assuming that WP7 will perform better than the iPhone (or any other mobile device) is still assuming. Regardless of whether one device is better than the other, the issue here is market share (a word used quite often by Windows supporters). Any one can pull an article off the internet to support their claims and bias, heck I can certainly find articles that said Windows Mobile X will be the game changer, and yet, it has yet to make a significant impact as the iPhone (or iPod or iMac). In fact, based on the market share track record, Apple has had a hit with new devices ever since Steve Jobs got back on board in 1997. The iMac, the iPod, the iPhone, etc. I'd be more surprised if an article came out that stated the iPad will be a flop, as Apple has had a pretty darn good track record for more than a decade (with the exception of the G4 Cube and Puck mouse, but those weren't main stream releases).
 
Don't be too cocky, look in your mirror at what's approaching.... ;)

Rear view mirror, perhaps?

We were similarly warned about the game changing features of the Zune HD.

It has approached, and......

I suppose, for you, things seem more exciting on an anticipatory level.

There's always that. :)
 
That's a lot of supposition, assuming that WP7 will perform better than the iPhone (or any other mobile device) is still assuming.

Not assuming - but quoting where Time magazine says that WP7 is
"one handy little phone that catapults Microsoft ahead of Apple".

Why would Time magazine make such a statement if WP7 isn't a
worthy competitor to the Iphone?
 
Not assuming - but quoting where Time magazine says that WP7 is
"one handy little phone that catapults Microsoft ahead of Apple".

Why would Time magazine make such a statement if WP7 isn't a
worthy competitor to the Iphone?

People still read time? Its about as dated and boring as readers digest!

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Were taking tech reviews from time? Thats as bad as taking reviews form PCWorld.
 
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