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Those with a foresight will immediately recognise the benefits single cable docking brings. Perhaps apple just need to release one, package it free for those who dun :D

The only pity is: we can't simply bring it near, let it snap into place like our beloved MagSafe
 
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"Anyway I'm not sure why you're debating this with me - I have not the slightest interest in the new Macbook, for reasons I stated before. In fact I only posted in this thread in the context of the Air's display not being updated."

You and the many others are bashing something without understanding the market and power of change, even something as subtle as the C port. However, this isn't about "need" at all. The facts are people never "needed" computers at all and yet today many are wearing them on their wrist.

Many of you bash, complain and spread hate on the latest MB model and yet the very media where it is being done on wasn't needed or even thought of just a decade or two ago.

The debate is mine or your personal preferences or "needs" aren't driving any of these changes. There will be a better MB after this 12" and that is a fact. But for today/this year this is the latest one. Either enjoy it or not, each of us have a choice.
 
I dont get why people think USB-C isnt going to be the standard?

Of course it will be. It will be very fast. The guys who made the USB spec put this out and its going to be the route of USB in the future. The cool things USB can do now, it can only do with the C type plug as far as I know like power/video etc.

Every manufacturer is going to use it. Its only a matter of time in the next 1-2 years. At CES the gaming motherboard guys are slowly testing the ground there with flopping 1 port on a motherboard just to look what happens with it because I think they wherent even ready to make it full 3.1 spec (Is what I remember, not sure at the moment)

Manufacturers may be scared and costumers are too because the next couple years will be some adapter years again but come on is everyone in the computer field now a teen?

Anyone remember no Serial ports and using usb to serial?
PS/2 to USB?

Now we are there again but with many more people relying on stuff but people just have to press through it, it isnt that hard. Buying some Type-C hubs, maybe C to A adapters, C to B cables and maybe type C flash drives thats not bad.
 
I didn't miss the point, I just disagree with it. It's solving a problem I don't have and creating more steps for common setup scenarios in a conference room, to charge a phone etc.

As for USB-C being a huge, huge hit, that's just speculation.


There is no speculation that USB-C will be huge. It's the new standard USB format and there is literally no realistic alternative.

Again - ANY MacBook currently or recently on the market has not had a VGA port which means that you would have to carry an adapter with them no matter which one you choose.

The far more common scenario is having to plug in a power cord, your monitor, and maybe a keyboard and mouse and hard drive. Something that business users do every day - maybe multiple times every day. USB-C whittles that down to one connection for you - it simplifies things rather than makes it more complex.
 
There is no speculation that USB-C will be huge. It's the new standard USB format and there is literally no realistic alternative.
USB-C is unlikely to replace Type-A USB, if only because of cost reasons. Cables, connectors and on-device controllers will remain more expensive (since USB-C requires more leads in the cable and a chip in the connector for orientation detection and handshake). The existing ecosystem of cheap USB accessories like thumb drives etc. will not be replaced by USB-C versions anytime soon. I applaud Apple for pioneering new standards, but they are far too quick to leave existing ones behind. This seriously impacts usability. What rational reason can there be not to include another USB port into the Macbook, except for cost savings for Apple on an already expensive device?
Again - ANY MacBook currently or recently on the market has not had a VGA port which means that you would have to carry an adapter with them no matter which one you choose.
True, and it is still a big hassle. I can't count how many times I wanted to spontaneously connect my work MBP to a projector to present something and couldn't because I didn't have the pigtail dongle with me.
 
The port and price situations make me a bit uncomfortable, but I have a computer. It's my wife's computer that might need replacing soon.

Probably still going to get her a Haswell rMBP.
 
I love this new MacBook Air. You have to realize this laptop was not designed for the MacBook Pro user. I see you're a developer, I used to be one as well. The MacBook Air is not - not - a developer's laptop. I do not see any signs it should or is suppose to be. This laptop is a light and portal laptop - that's it.

I completely agree with your post, but I also think that the new 12" MB is perfectly capable tool for at least some kinds of software development. For example, it could work very well for a web front-end (and maybe even backend) developer, and I believe that it will run Xcode reasonably well for light projects. Or things like scientific programming etc.
 
"I believe that it will run Xcode reasonably well for light projects. "

Why would it not run Xcode well for all projects?

I've been running Xcode on 11" airs for over five years. Except for compile time and the iOS sim being slower on my Airs verse the desktop it does everything very well.
 
People who are Pro users are upset over how it lacks ports and raw power.

Thing that people don't seem to understand is that it's not meant for pro users...probably why this forum is filled with negativity....

But I get ur point, and in 1-2 years they'll redesign the Pro and you'll finaly be happy!!!
 
Anyone slightly concerned with the fact they have removed MagSafe?, always thought this was a fairly good and underrated feature.
 
I think this is a glimpse in the future. They've done it before - with the MBA, with the ditching of optical drives, then hard drives... even with the iPhone and ditching the keyboard.

Each time, it's a big compromise, and people are (rightfully) upset, because the rest of the industry isn't ready and Apple doesn't care (I'm not talking about competitors, but peripherals and accessories). They force it, taking the risk to upset their user base.

And it (usually) ends up working. For Apple as a company, and for the whole electronics industry. After a few years, the landscape has changed and most have followed their footsteps.

Sometimes it doesn't work (Thunderbolt is still very much an Apple thing and will die an Apple thing). But most of the times, it does, even if it's painful at first.

That's how they are leading.

In a few weeks, we'll see the first USB-C accessories. In a few months, a lot of them. In a few years, USB-C will be the main technology. It's past time we moved beyond the classic USB. It's unfortunate it takes one company to have the balls to do it alone.

So yeah, the first couple of years, the rMB will feel like an alien, and people who actually need peripherals will have to pass on it, or suffer. I still think it'll ultimately be a good thing.

This is a really good way to think about it. I'm not a huge fan of the new laptop but the points you make really put it in perspective. I'm glad Apple is leading things even if I don't like the direction all the time.
 
New 12MB is exactly what I've been waiting for

My first Mac was the 12” PowerBook (which Apple replaced with a 13” MacBook after the 3rd service repair, ast they had stopped making the 12” PowerBook), and finally in 2011, a 13” MBA.

My MBA requires a battery service (can’t get it done in Kenya, so waiting until I go to the US), many of the keys are scratched beyond recognition. (A, S, T, and Space Bar), the hard drive is almost full, the fans were blowing hard until I reset PRAM a week ago.

The MBA is my only computer, and the only things I ever plug into it are the charger, and on occasion a USB stick and the SD card from my camera. I’m not a power user, and mainly use it for e-mail, Excel, photos (managing, not editing) & music. I have no other peripherals, and even if I needed to use someone else’s, I’d just use my adaptor!

The new MB is perfect for me, as I have always missed the form factor and footprint of the 12in PowerBook, and found the 11in MBA too small. I definitely want a retina screen, and love the portability… so the 13in MBP just wouldn’t work. I plan on getting the 1.2 512GB - which will hold literally all of my personal files, pictures and music.

The lack of ports is not a concern - I’ll just buy the multi-adaptor that connects to USB C + USB + HDMI, although I think I have connected my computer to an HDMI capable 3 times in 4 years. I’ve dropped my computer a few times, so will miss MagSafe, but this is NOT a deal breaker, especially as the longer battery life means that I won’t have to charge it when I am out and about.
 
I've switched to an 11' MBA around 4 years ago from a sony vaio 11 inch full HD notebook. Never looked back. And then i realised i never use the USB ports except to charge my iOS appliances. But just for charging i can use a normal charger which i carry around anyway.

And yes, i use my MBA for business. Files are kept on a private cloud, connection is made via a VPN tunnel so pretty much every wireless connection works as security is in the VPN link and not in the wireless connection, although we try to keep those as safe as possible as well, not using passwords but rather radius two factor authentication instead. The CPU power needed for the normal work isn't all that high either, but portability is a key factor when you're 200 days a year on the road.

So the new macbook will be perfect for me i guess. And even if it isn't, apple product resale values are great and i just buy the next version or a new MBA instead.
 
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"Except for compile time"

I didn't say it was unexceptionable or well, I meant to say it was slower.

I run some pretty big Xcode projects on 11" MBA without a problem.
 
Leaving it plugged in is not good for the battery.
That was true 5 years ago, but not true today. The laptop does intelligent management of the battery, and will not overcharge it when you leave it plugged in all the time.

Apple does not recommend what you are stating.

There was a time when we needed our laptops to be plugged in while we were using them, and occasionally the magsafe feature would save an unfortunate accident... but Apple is betting that with 9-10 hours of battery life, you don't need to work with it plugged in.

We don't have a magsafe lightning connectors for our iPads and no one is complaining about that.
Your usage case is not everyone's usage case. I spend about half the time of my computer use with the thing plugged in, and the magsafe feature is VERY important to me.

Magsafe on an iPad would be awesome! I am going to start complaining...
 
That was true 5 years ago, but not true today. The laptop does intelligent management of the battery, and will not overcharge it when you leave it plugged in all the time.

Apple does not recommend what you are stating.

This isn't a matter of overcharging. It's a matter of what state is the best for the battery to be stored in. The chemistry of the batteries Apple are using are exactly the same as those used in many different applications. It's not immediately detrimental to the battery, but if you read the technical documentation for these kind of batteries (not the stuff you get from the retailers intended to be read by the end-users) you'll see that nobody would recommend storing the batteries at full charge for a long period of time.
 
Hello,

I've been a die-hard Mac user for years but I've never been so annoyed and frustrated at Apple as I am right now all because of a stupid USB-C port on the new Macbook. Out of the box the new Macbook is useless. The Macbook needs adapters for just about everything. It defeats the purpose of having a super portable and mobile laptop when you have to carry all those extra adapters crap around. Very counter-productive. I work with and use external devices all day for audio and video and for backing up my projects. The new Macbook is not for me.
 
Apple could have crammed a zero-bezel 13" in this.. and thats why it's disappointing to me.. And the unfortunates is now this design is set in stone for at least 3-4 years before it changes so no hopes of a bezel-less 13" screen.
 
The future of Apple will be two-tiered. Regular and professional.

MacBook
MacBook Pro

iPad
iPad Pro?

iMac
Mac Pro
 
"Out of the box the new Macbook is useless."

Ok it's just a paperweight, right totally useless!


Will you get a life!

Name all the plug-ins you will have to carry to make this a "useful" computer.

Go buy a rMBP.
 
Hello,

I've been a die-hard Mac user for years but I've never been so annoyed and frustrated at Apple as I am right now all because of a stupid USB-C port on the new Macbook. Out of the box the new Macbook is useless. The Macbook needs adapters for just about everything. It defeats the purpose of having a super portable and mobile laptop when you have to carry all those extra adapters crap around. Very counter-productive. I work with and use external devices all day for audio and video and for backing up my projects. The new Macbook is not for me.

Apple's vision is that we're going to do this all wirelessly within a year, including most likely charging. This particular machine is a proof of concept, a transitional step. If anyone in Cupertino thinks this is a mature product - which I totally doubt - they will probably be looking for a job within the year.
 
[In response to post stating "I prefer to work with my laptop plugged in as often as possible"] Leaving it plugged in is not good for the battery. The best state for the battery is for it to be somewhere in the 20-90% range..

This isn't a matter of overcharging. It's a matter of what state is the best for the battery to be stored in....if you read the technical documentation for these kind of batteries....nobody would recommend storing the batteries at full charge for a long period of time
Keeping the MBA plugged in over night (or during laptop use) is not "storing" the battery. The manufacturer's guidelines for storage (charged 40%), is referring to storage for months (up to 2 years).

I like how you moved the goalposts with your two posts, your first stating it wasn't good for your battery to leave it plugged in while using, and the second to infer that I was wrong because you were actually talking about long term storage, not daily use.
 
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Keeping the MBA plugged in over night (or during laptop use) is not "storing" the battery. The manufacturer's guidelines for storage (charged 40%), is referring to storage for months (up to 2 years).

I like how you moved the goalposts with your two posts, your first stating it wasn't good for your battery to leave it plugged in while using, and the second to infer that I was wrong because you were actually talking about long term storage, not daily use.

So using your laptop primarily as plugged in (in the name of minimizing cycles on the battery) won't add up to months and years of time in that state? The point remains that keeping it charged in to avoid cycling the battery is no better for it than cycling it.
 
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