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12" Macbook - Get Over It!

This is more a fasion product than a practical one.
We will see a lot of women with this because with colours customizations it is an even more unisex laptop than the macbook air is
And will be getting better and better in the next years with more battery life
So in coffee shops mpre macbooks than ipads
 
For someone who is travelling a lot and need a laptop this is certainly not a fashion product, it is a very good item. Ports are pretty useless anyway with reliable and fast wireless connections, either tethered to a phone or directly via WLAN.

I'm looking forward to exchange my 11' MBA for the new macbook. More than 200 days a year travelling and the weight difference becomes important.
 
Serban said:
This is more a fasion product than a practical one.
We will see a lot of women with this because with colours customizations it is an even more unisex laptop than the macbook air is
And will be getting better and better in the next years with more battery life
So in coffee shops mpre macbooks than ipads
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Why would you paint such a broad brush? Not everyone is out there designing the next Mars Lander on Solidworks or rendering the next Pixar movie. There are lots of "professionals" - novelists, lawyers, journalists who would have no use for a mighty processor and GPU.
 
mtneer said:
Why would you paint such a broad brush? Not everyone is out there designing the next Mars Lander on Solidworks or rendering the next Pixar movie. There are lots of "professionals" - novelists, lawyers, journalists who would have no use for a mighty processor and GPU.
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i was not referring to the users..but still in your comment you were on track with me, lawyers, novelists will like a fashionable macbook than other brand like dell or something else
 
mtneer said:
Why would you paint such a broad brush? Not everyone is out there designing the next Mars Lander on Solidworks or rendering the next Pixar movie. There are lots of "professionals" - novelists, lawyers, journalists who would have no use for a mighty processor and GPU.
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And there are a lot of us (like me) who can, as a trade off, live with a few tasks taking a little longer while having a fantastically portable machine as our main computer.
 
sleek, light with aluminium unibody with sharp edges it is a fashion description of an product especially in gold
For those who dont know,a fashion object can be portable. So why you argue with me?
 
Serban said:
i was not referring to the users..but still in your comment you were on track with me, lawyers, novelists will like a fashionable macbook than other brand like dell or something else
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My comment had nothing to do with fashion. The same lawyers and journalists have been using MBA 11's with those huge bezels. The Dell XPS 13" is a pretty machine to look at. It all comes down to two things: what each person values (power, battery, lightness) and how much money they have. When the two meet - boom, there is a laptop sold!
 
yes and they prefer a fashionable laptop than other thats why in high lawyers companies you see mac and not dell hp or something
 
Quite honestly, it is not about fashion, it is much more about weight. At least for those users that will use that machine professionally. And as nice as the Dell XPS 13 is, it weighs a lot more than the Macbook. It doesn't hurt if it looks good, but so do quite a few other notebooks from other manufacturers. It is certainly a huge plus that it runs on MacOS, not on Windows or even ChromeOS, although Windows can be installed of course if one wishes to use both worlds.
 
AdonisSMU said:
My lawyer had the suite of Mac products when I had to see him awhile back... I was quite envious of his Apple Collection.
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In most parts of the world, this is unusual, at least for lawyers in mid-sized to large law firms.

Much of the software used by these sorts of firms is not well supported under OS X. Firms that support Macs often have to use VM's for that reason (plus security).

idevices are a different story. Most lawyers in the US at this sort of firm use iPhones. Europe and Asia different, where Blackberries still have decent penetration.

Your lawyer may be an exception (as am I), but this is the general case.

Greg
 
I've worked in very large law firms for more than 30 years, and worked with countless large, medium and small firms in the course of an average of 2500 billable hours a year. Macs are an institutional nonentity in Big Law and, as far as I've been able to observe, most other parts of American law practice.

I'm sure there are smaller firms that are Mac shops, but as a percentage it's probably on the right hand side of the decimal point, likely with leading zeros. Dell, IBM/Lenovo, HP and a few others have traditionally owned this market and still do. Lawyers like me who bring a Mac to work do so on an unsupported, BYOD basis, and even then there are numerous apps that have to be run on a Windows machine because there are no Mac counterparts.

Even iPhones are a relatively recent occurrence. Until Blackberry committed corporate and financial suicide, firm management (and clients) wanted lawyers to be using Blackberries because they were believed to be more secure.
 
newellj said:
I've worked in very large law firms for more than 30 years, and worked with countless large, medium and small firms in the course of an average of 2500 billable hours a year. Macs are an institutional nonentity in Big Law and, as far as I've been able to observe, most other parts of American law practice.
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It sounds like you and I lead broadly parallel lives.

I currently have a mid-2011, i7 MBA, and I was eagerly awaiting a retina MBA (been waiting for > a year to upgrade to such). I travel ~100K miles a year, and even when I'm local, spend much of my time out of the office in meetings. I am price insensitive. I don't care about paying >$2K for a device that fits my needs - light and fast. Basically, I'm the original prototypical MBA customer.

The problem is that I have to have a robust performance machine to support the VM's that we have to use to support the firm's systems on OS X. A 4GB allocation doesn't cut it for a Windows VM when you're running Outlook in that VM with a 10GB mailbox. Indexing that takes *weeks* under 4GB. That was why I was hoping for an i7 MBA with retina and 8-16GB.

I recognize that I'm not *entitled* to a particular piece of hardware out of Apple, but for those of you telling us to get over our disappointment over the Macbook, it's because there isn't a machine that meets our needs. A rMBA would have met our needs, thus the disappointment.

Greg
 
In the UK, there has been a steady trend in recent years of barristers at the criminal bar switching to Mac.

In 2008 Macbooks were a tiny minority. Since then, the iPhone and ipad halo effects (together with the quality of apple's laptops) have changed that position. Now they are 50% of the computers seen at court.
 
capathy21 said:
Im afraid that's probably not going to happen. They aren't going to have an "Air" that's heavier and thicker than the MacBook. This new MB will eventually replace the Air. It's very obvious, by Apple not updating the Air to retina or force touch trackpad it sends the clear message that the Air will be going the way of the cMBP.
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They wouldn't replace it with one model, one screen size. They can get rid of the Air and release a 13" Macbook with multiple ports.

Or they can get rid of the Air and the new Macbook. Nobody knows. If this new Macbook sells very horribly, they will not get rid of the air. Nothing is set in stone.

IMO they should just get rid of the Air and the new Macbook. The Pros are already thin and light enough.
 
IMO they should just get rid of the Air and the new Macbook. The Pros are already thin and light enough.
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Don't think that is going to happen. There is enough demand for very lightweight notebooks like the rMB. And mobility is a major factor for those that have to carry their notebooks a lot, while price usually isn't.

I have used 11' MBAs exactly for their weight, i couldn't care less about webcams, those have to be blocked anyway and i don't use ports as everything is done wireless anyway. The rMB is the perfect replacement, better screen in nearly the same formfactor, just even thinner and weighing less is a godsend.

The Pros are nice machines, but heavy as hell and that makes them unusable for me, except as desktop replacement at outstations.
 
shenan1982 said:
Like the title says... GET OVER IT!

If you don't like it don't buy it. If neither of the ultra books work for you, but a pro, if that doesn't work, then sorry.

Based on early response, Apple hit it out of the park with this product. You can't have an ultrabook with a retina screen and maintain the $899 price point Apple has come in with for the Air.

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Obviously not official, but there are several surveys on here, asking people what they think. In one survey, 71% of MacRumors users have a favorable or very favorable outlook on the Macbook. In another, 67% of respondents have said they are excited and looking forward to its release.

That's a prime example of how Apple hit it out of the park with this release. The average MacRumors users is more critical, and more tech savvy than the average Mac consumer... so to get those numbers from MacRumors is fantastic, and indicate the widespread non-MR users are going to be even more elated with this release.

I personally am more excited about this release than ANY Mac computer release in history, so again, if you don't like it, "Get over it!" ... because MOST people do! You can whine here, but it just makes you look foolish. There's a mac for most people in Apple's line now. You seem to want everything out of every model, and that's not the way it works. It would have made more sense to call the new Macbook the Macbook Air, and rename the old to Macbook, because it's now become the runner up in thinness, and now seems to come with a primary objective of being the most price-sensitive laptop while sacrificing the latest and greatest retina screen, track pad, keyboard, etc. Sorry if it's confusing to you.
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The macbook air unacceptable resolution for 2015 needs fixing.
 
Troneas said:
The macbook air unacceptable resolution for 2015 needs fixing.
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I don't think there is a need for an MBA. I think Apple is phasing MB in and phasing MBA out. We will need to be patient. There is no need for an MBA when you have a 12" MB that's thinner and lighter with a better display.
 
flyinmac said:
I agree with you mtneer.

We already have a site for that. Apple discussions... If you want a place where only praise of Apple is permitted, go there.

Apple censors those discussions very heavily. If you have a defect that Apple is still covering up, they'll delete your post even if all you've done is nicely ask for help to resolve the problem.

If anyone expresses an opinion that doesn't favor Apple, it's deleted.

Those who want only positive statements that match their point of view can head over to Apple Discussions and enjoy the sterile discussions in that dictatorship.

When MacRumors becomes Apple Discussions, it'll be time to pull the plug.

There's a reason MacRumors remains as the last high traffic Apple based forums. It's diversity. Take away the diversity and MacRumors will die the death of the other forums.

If people can't handle diverse opinions, and understand that we learn from diversity and understanding and thinking about why other people's opinions differ, then it's time for said closed minded people to go back into their shell.

If you come to a place that discusses people's perspectives, you have no one but yourself to blame and complain about if you are so soft that your feelings get hurt. If you can't handle it, go somewhere else. If you need to worship Apple in a sterile environment, this isn't the place.

If you can't handle someone having a different view than the Apple Gods bestowed on you, go to the Apple Discussions page.

If you come here, understand that everyone has an opinion. And your opinion is no more valid than theirs. It is their rights that are infringed when you try to shut them up. Your right is to accept their valid opinion, or go somewhere else. You can express your opinion. But you have no right to try and silence their opinion.
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I wish the forums were filled more with your kind. Thank you, and keep spreading the message.
 
TheGdog said:
"Thinner and lighter does not replacing having necessary ports, I would rather have more ports and better battery life than some super thin computer.
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Then buy a Macbook Pro or an iMac.

I like having a computer with lots of ports - my iMac

And I like have a computer which is super thin and light - My MBA11 which will be replaced by this new Macbook.
 
Serban said:
This is more a fasion product than a practical one.
We will see a lot of women with this because with colours customizations it is an even more unisex laptop than the macbook air is
And will be getting better and better in the next years with more battery life
So in coffee shops mpre macbooks than ipads
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Wow... what a joke. First off, I'm a scientist and do most of my (admittedly not very intensive) data analysis on my mac mini. But I also do a lot of grant writing and a lot of traveling. I want the rMB for grant writing on the go, to be able to show data slides to people while i'm traveling, and for basic internet usage. I could get a macbook air, and I'm decided between the two. I'm leaning more towards the rMB because of it's light weight design and better screen and since I don't really need the extra processing power of the MBA.

Secondly, you should really know what a word means before you use it. Unisex means suitable for BOTH sexes.
 
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