And that's not even talking about the video, where they went as far as filming a whole keynote with only iPhones, fooling almost everyone!
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Other 12PM to 16PM..no, it’s not, 17 is the one
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13 Pro user here. The longest I’ve kept a phone. After reading this thread I think I’m now in the “wait for 17” camp.
More memory (this should really have been done in the 16 series for AI) , better camera array, new options (slim) and no doubt a lot more.
When I look at what the 16 series will give me, it doesn’t reconcile with spending >1K.
Am also seriously considering whether it’s even worth staying in the ecosystem too. New pixels and galaxy phones look good as well.
Might throw some money at a new watch though if they bring out anything which would keep me in the ecosystem. Since the 7 series (what I have)… literally nothing of interest.
More memory (this should really have been done in the 16 series for AI) , better camera array, new options (slim) and no doubt a lot more.
When I look at what the 16 series will give me, it doesn’t reconcile with spending >1K.
Am also seriously considering whether it’s even worth staying in the ecosystem too. New pixels and galaxy phones look good as well.
Might throw some money at a new watch though if they bring out anything which would keep me in the ecosystem. Since the 7 series (what I have)… literally nothing of interest.
Having the 12 pro, I'm tempted to wait for the release of the 16 but then likely look for a good price/deal in the UK on a 15 pro in order to get on the AppleI bandwagon.
yea, i stand by that quote all day long...maybe our standards for pics are different unless filtered and edited etc..that many use to make something decesnt but for that money it should be way better...I mean nokia back in the day even back to N95 etc took better pics than iphones...so yea that would be the absoulte last reason to upgrade my phone
im most definitely in that camp now but what i really want is a foldable with specs of the 17 or 18, after using one I like them..in fact if i didnt hate switching from apple I would get the Samsung new one but dont want that operating system ..so i stick with apple
Got a 14 pro max and maybe going opposite direction.
Trying out a 13 mini next week.
prolly won't get rid of my 14Pm regardless but I'm not sure I feel like spending 1000+ on what according to rumors so far seems like a very iterative refresh of 15 pro/pro max which minus USB-C and different materials which is a polarizing thing.
we'll see!
iPhone 17 may not even be all that exciting lol
Trying out a 13 mini next week.
prolly won't get rid of my 14Pm regardless but I'm not sure I feel like spending 1000+ on what according to rumors so far seems like a very iterative refresh of 15 pro/pro max which minus USB-C and different materials which is a polarizing thing.
we'll see!
iPhone 17 may not even be all that exciting lol
Sorry but you are still very wrong. It is straightforward to get good captures of static subjects:
• Take an iPhone 15 Pro, go to the camera app and push the top right selection to RAW.
Now the hard part, the basic good-photography guidelines just like with every film camera forever:
• Steady the camera; use a tripod if necessary.
• Make sure there is adequate light.
• Release the shutter without moving the camera.
Do that and you will get good pix of static subjects from modern iPhone Pro cameras, including to your apparently high standards. Note there is no "filtered and edited etc." step required. Any editing is optional.
A very few captures will come up weird and require reshooting, but only very few if the basic good-photography guidelines above are followed. Photogs who violate the basic good-photography guidelines above will get poor captures. They may look "overprocessed" as the app tries to computationally fix the poor photographic technique of the photog.
The UI of smartphones is terrible, so moving subjects should be avoided by amateurs. Instead shoot video while still following the basic good-photography guidelines above. Low light image captures should similarly be avoided by amateurs expecting good results.
P.S.I have tens of thousands of competent iPhone Pro image captures taken simply following the above guidelines. No special apps or elaborate filtering/editing, except that I usually crop most images for composition purposes.
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I have a galaxy fold and my iPhone 15. I think you might be impressed by the last couple of gens of folds. My iPhone is fine, it’s primary. But using my fold feels like I’m on a starship.I hope neverFolding phones are a gimmick. The “benefits” of a folding phone, such as a little bit larger screen, do not enhance the user experience enough to warrant the additional bulk, cost and potential durability issues.
No one even cares about the camera anymore since it’s been a bust from day 1 and Apple knew it would be but was selling something else and succeeded
I strongly disagree. One of the very main reason I will upgrade this year is for the camera.
Are you saying a Nokia N95 takes better pics than the original iPhone, or all iPhones? One may be true, the other is outlandish.
iPhones have been taking excellent photos for many years now.
I’m saying smart money never upgrades only because of the iPhones camera..they just still haven’t gotten the out of the box blueprint for great pics….and for sure definition of excellent is being used loosely…I don’t even look at specs of camera when thinking of upgrading, let alone upgrade because if it primarily.
Yea. I assume it has kept up “with the times”. I still have to edit regularly because lighting is handled weirdly, etc. Also 99% of my photos I look at on a 5 inch screen? So how much better is it practically going to get? I don’t see an interesting difference between my 15, my 14 Pro, or any of my relatives and friends 11, 12, etc. Much less a difference I would prioritize paying for. Not saying they aren’t making improvements, just saying they haven’t hit my radar as a consumer or even a technologist.
Now if you are a camera geek and mess with settings and 3P apps then sure, very possible that the difference every couple of years in iPhone camera tech is interesting to you. But that reflects very little of the population.
My 11 takes good photos. Well, good enough, as they're mainly holiday/life snaps to share with friends and family.
It's not the best in low light, but as I used to have a "proper" camera (a canon SLR then dSLR) I try to remain aware of the limitations, and keep the phone as still as possible for example.
It's not the best in low light, but as I used to have a "proper" camera (a canon SLR then dSLR) I try to remain aware of the limitations, and keep the phone as still as possible for example.
there is certainly nothing wrong with the 15 pro cameras. the cameras overall are very versatile and well balanced. video is still the best out there. HDR is much improved as well.
vivo and oppo for me are well ahead of everybody in photography though.
vivo and oppo for me are well ahead of everybody in photography though.
I’m saying smart money never upgrades only because of the iPhones camera..they just still haven’t gotten the out of the box blueprint for great pics….and for sure definition of excellent is being used loosely…I don’t even look at specs of camera when thinking of upgrading, let alone upgrade because if it primarily.
Nailed it
There's always "the next year's iPhone is going to be better." I don't understand why are people not waiting for the event and decide then instead of speculating 5 weeks in advance. Let's live in the present because worrying about the future changes nothing. My advice is to wait for the event, watch it, decide after the event if it's worth the money and then buy it or wait for the next iPhone that will be released in 2025.
I don’t think anyone is “worrying” so much as we all have a little fun nerding out over these topics on a site called macRUMORS.
I get the new iPhone every year - it’s not even a question for me. But I still love sharing ideas and POV and yes, even disagreeing, on what’s coming in 5 weeks, 5 months, 5 years. Most people around me IRL don’t give much of a hoot about the next iPhone, so I come to macRUMORS to get my nerd on!
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I’ve never used these functions lol
Had every iteration of the iPhone since 7 and this might be the first year I skip. 16 pro looks the exact same again.
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While many analysts are calling for an iPhone 16 supercycle this year, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman says "wait until next year."
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