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I'm not sure I understand your point. The MBP has a dedicated GPU....... and the 8400M that is being used in that new XPS is actually less powerful than even the X1600 in the current MBP. The next MBP will probably have something like the ATI X2600.

I don't have any numbers in front of me, but I'm pretty sure that the 8400m is quite a bit more powerful than the x1600. Isn't there like a two year time difference between when they were released? Anyhow, the Nvidia's 8xxxm line should be comparable to ATI's X2xxx (or whatever the new mobile GPUs are) line
 
So.... who cares.
It doesn't run MacOSX.
It doesn't run MacClassic.
Not interested.

Intel macs don't run Classic too.

Who cares about OSX anyway. OSX doesn't run 99% of the world's applications.

It is because of people like you that we real users are still paying good money for mediocre computers, like a flagship laptop with a X1600 "Pro" in it.

LoL
 


Engadget reveals some early marketing material for a new Dell notebook which carries a familiar and appealing set of specs:

- 13.3-inch screen, configurable with LED backlight
- Core 2 Duo processor (up to 2.4GHz)
- Santa Rosa chipset (965PM/GM)
- Slot-loading dual-layer DVD±RW drive!
- Optional NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS / 128MB
- Ethernet, 802.11a, a/g, or n options, Bluetooth option
- Dimensions with LED 12.5 x 9.4 x 0.87 - 1.33-inches (318 x 238 x 22.1 - 33.8mm)
- Weight starts at 4 pounds

The new Dell "ultraportable" carries an internal design that many have been hoping for from a new Apple MacBook Pro. Indeed, there have been rumors that Apple would be incorporating the Santa Rosa chipset and LED backlit displays into their own "ultraportable" design.

Apple is expected to release new MacBook Pros in the morning (Tues, June 5th), but whether or not they will represent more than just a minor bump remains unknown.

MBP MR Admin? Uh, not unless the MB 13.3in screen would be used in a rumored MBP ultrathin/lite?

Umm, perhaps the Admin's are as sleep at the wheel (on cruse control?).

I posted the rumor about the replacement Dell M1210 on MR hardware MB/MBP, backlit LED, slot-loading optical drive, Santa Rosa C2D replacement...oh, I dunno, more than a few days ago...narry an ounce of interest, and now a Dell rumor that has what exactly to do with an imminent Apple release, is pg 1 "news"....shakes head, wondering who is the real butthead here on MR, lol? That's just as good a pg. 1 rumor, as far as a possible PBG4 12in replacement as any, so why isn't it pg 1 news, instead of this 13.3in Dell??? I'd rather read about the MBP ultralite/ultrathin, not Dell's much better than design spec'd MacBook 13.3in LCD sized laptop

Dell plans radically designed 13-inch XPS notebook
http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/06/04/dell.xps.m1330.leak/
"The 13.3-inch M1330 will phase out the smaller but thicker M1210 while also bringing several of the latest notebook technologies that have been absent even in the company's flagship M1710 and M1210 systems. The design represents a major change towards minimalist style: the M1330 should be less than one inch thick and will turn to a slot-loading DVD-RW drive instead of Dell's historical tray drive while still cutting weight to 4 pounds."
 
So you are comparing the weights of laptops with different screen sizes.

I'm comparing the existence of laptops at various screen sizes (screen size being one of the few contributors to laptop weight that can't really be worked around). The fact that the heavier laptops have more features does not change the fact that they are heavier. Similarly, the fact that the lighter laptops with fewer features are lighter does not change the fact that they have fewer features.

Dell is down to one laptop at 3 lbs. Most of the competition has laptops at well under that. Is Dell exiting the ultralight market? Neglecting it?
 
MBP MR Admin? Uh, not unless the MB 13.3in screen would be used in a rumored MBP ultrathin/lite?

Umm, perhaps the Admin's are as sleep at the wheel (on cruse control?).

"The new Dell "ultraportable" carries an internal design that many have been hoping for from a new Apple MacBook Pro."

And if you feel you have page1-worthy info, submit it :)

(btw, you also felt that the original June 5th MBP rumor was not page 1 worthy)

arn
 
I agree. The Mac is still the backbone of their business, even if their gadgets outsell it. Gadgets come and go. Mac users are fanatic about their OS.

I agree but a small part of me was very afraid during the seconds Steve Jobs took to say what part of Apple Inc. was a hobby!
 
Uh, well not to act like a Dell supporter because I really am not, but we have had a dozen Dell Laptops here over the past 5 years (different users) and have only once had to have anything repaired. Add in our 40+ desktops and the number jumps to a staggering 2 people. Tech support was nothing short of amazing (honestly) and they COME TO YOU to fix it. The NEXT day! Seriously. I love my PB (and hopefully soon my MBP) but honestly Apple's support is no where near Dell's when it comes to business users - sending my laptop (and really my only work computer) to them for 2 weeks or even 2 days just does not cut it.
Most of my Apple calls have been overnight repairs. I just live in a good location with a lot of Apple technicians for stuff that's under warranty.

Do you have any sense of aesthetics? This Dell laptop is typical of many PC laptop out there. Hastily put together by people who could care less for aesthetics, and only wants to make a quick buck.

Okay, I want to back track and think you'll are probably young and naive. All is well, I suppose.
I buy a computer for the aesthetics, right. Time to slap some blue LED case lights on it!

In that case the pdf specs and the marketing specs don't agree. Score!
Exactly!

This slope also prevents accidentaly pressing buttons or the touchpad. I happen to like it.
I didn't know that fact...
 
This 13.3" looks nice. A dedicated graphics card in such a small form factor, I think Dell is trying to steal the spotlight away from apple.
Assuming that the price is right, this might pull me away from a macbook.
 
Looking at the specs, it's more like an MBP than a MacBook. Processors up to max from Intel, 4GB RAM, 32GB SS-HDD or up to 250 GB platters, dedicated video card(128MB?? WTF) etc. The ONLY spec that resembles a MacBook is the screen. Isn't XPS Dell's high-end marquee?

Hope it's true - if that's what Dell's got, imagine the next round of MBPs.

Z
 
Looking at the specs, it's more like an MBP than a MacBook. Processors up to max from Intel, 4GB RAM, 32GB SS-HDD or up to 250 GB platters, dedicated video card(128MB?? WTF) etc. The ONLY spec that resembles a MacBook is the screen. Isn't XPS Dell's high-end marquee?

Hope it's true - if that's what Dell's got, imagine the next round of MBPs.

Z
It's only like a MacBook Pro if you customize it like that. At stock you might not need more then the video card upgrade from the GMA X3100.
 
Looking at the specs, it's more like an MBP than a MacBook. Processors up to max from Intel, 4GB RAM, 32GB SS-HDD or up to 250 GB platters, dedicated video card(128MB?? WTF) etc. The ONLY spec that resembles a MacBook is the screen. Isn't XPS Dell's high-end marquee?

Hope it's true - if that's what Dell's got, imagine the next round of MBPs.

Z

Yes, that is what the XPS line. The XPSM1210 has nothing in common with any consumer laptops; it is distinct from Dell's own Insprion line even.

It is possible to get an XPSM1210 for a lower price, but that's with mostly low-end components, at which point it offers no real advantage over something like a MacBook.

This new XPS seems much more like a high-end machine, which is most closely comparable to Sony's SZ line. Note that Sony's current premium SZ with LED-backlit screen and a dedicated GPU is about $2350. I would be amazed if this new XPS was very far below that price range. Even the current XPSM1210 configured with the dedicated GPU is not too far from that price, and that's without the LED-backlit screen.
 
This 13.3" looks nice. A dedicated graphics card in such a small form factor, I think Dell is trying to steal the spotlight away from apple.
Assuming that the price is right, this might pull me away from a macbook.

There is no way that this machine is going to be anywhere close to the MacBook in terms of price. The early rumors are that it will be very expensive, well above $2000 (which makes sense, given the LED-backlit screen, 8400M GPU, etc.).

I don't see how this steals the spotlight away from Apple any more than the current XPSM1210 did (or didn't). It's just the natural progression of the smaller XPS line.

What Dell is targeting with this new XPS though isn't Apple, but Sony, as this new XPS is much more comparable now to Sony's premium SZ line (one of the only current laptops available with a 13.3" LED-backlit screen and a dedicated GPU). The next SZ update will most likely feature the GeForce 8400M as well.

-Zadillo
 
ohh...

I remember screens that small... they were black and white too.

"When is the screen big enough for a number pad?"
 
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