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13.3", LED Backlit, Santa Rosa Laptop... from Dell

Let's hope the impending MBP update won't look foolish compared to this offering from Dell. Yes, it is Windows and it is a Dell, but still, from a technical perspective it is fairly appealing and I don't see any reason why Apple shouldn't be able to have a very similar offering for the MBP as well. If the MBPs only receive a speed bump Apple is not going to look so good....
 
iBunny said:
I see 13.3 Inch Ultra Portable MBP's as well as updated 15 Inch models tomorrow. Both with LED Backlit screens, Santa Rosa etc...

Apple needs to stay competitive with current hardware. Its understandable what they did with the MacBook, but the MacBook Pros do not need to still be using old technology.

Tomorrow will be a good day :D
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If MBP's bump up tomorrow, what's the likely lineup to be intro'd at WWDC?

A new shell for the iMac?

iWork, iLife and lots of Panther?

There must be more or Apple would have held back the :apple:TV refresh.
 
~Shard~ said:
Let's hope the impending MBP update won't look foolish compared to this offering from Dell. Yes, it is Windows and it is a Dell, but still, from a technical perspective it is fairly appealing and I don't see any reason why Apple shouldn't be able to have a very similar offering for the MBP as well. If the MBPs only receive a speed bump Apple is not going to look so good....
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The big difference is when Apple announces something, it is usually available straight away. This Dell "thing" doesn't even have a price yet.
 
007bond4321 said:
That's how I understood it - 0.87 inches thick on the front edge and 1.33 on the back edge. A bit deceiving, I think. Nevertheless, nice specs!
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A lot of manufacturers are using the sloping design to appear thinner under the keyboard.

faisal said:
Hrm. 4.37, says Dell's site (but: you're right, I stand corrected).

The 420 seems to be the only ultralight option at this point, at 3 lbs. On the other hand, it might be more accurate to claim that Dell's trying to shave some weight off the mid-range, rather than make more powerful (albeit heavier) light laptops.
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I checked the PDF specifications on the D630.

tk421 said:
Hls811 expressed a vaild opinion, one that many share. This is MacRumors, after all.
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Apple sells x86 hardware just like the majority of the market.
 
~Shard~ said:
Let's hope the impending MBP update won't look foolish compared to this offering from Dell. Yes, it is Windows and it is a Dell, but still, from a technical perspective it is fairly appealing and I don't see any reason why Apple shouldn't be able to have a very similar offering for the MBP as well. If the MBPs only receive a speed bump Apple is not going to look so good....
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I think if Apple is going to make the effort, they might as well upgrade the entire board, including the processor.

Apple is going to keep up no problem - that's why they switched to Intel! :)

Now, for those MacBook updates!
 
i would be INCREDIBLY surprised if all we see from tomorrow or next week's MBP update is a minor speed bump. historically speaking, apple bumps the MBP first, and the macbook sometime afterwards. it would make no sense for them to do it vice-versa this time around. i think it's safe to assume the MBPs will have santa rosa sometime within the next 10 days (but possibly shipping a tad later)
 
Way too big and heavy to be a true ultraportable. Still, at about 1" thick and 4 lb, something from Dell doesn't resemble a brick is welcome. Look out, MBP, this is some serious competition!
 
Dell's support for Business users is far superior

GanleyBurger said:
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My wife has a Dell Inspiron 6000 whatever. Crap-o-la!!!

Plastic case design. If it fell it would be lake dropping a Lego spaceship. Cuh-rashhhhhhhh!!!!

All I can say is if you want to spend over 2 hours on the phone with 3 different tech people based in India for a stupid $15 replacement part, then go ahead my friend and buy a Dell.

AppleCare alone is worth whatever a Mac costs.:) :) :)
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Uh, well not to act like a Dell supporter because I really am not, but we have had a dozen Dell Laptops here over the past 5 years (different users) and have only once had to have anything repaired. Add in our 40+ desktops and the number jumps to a staggering 2 people. Tech support was nothing short of amazing (honestly) and they COME TO YOU to fix it. The NEXT day! Seriously. I love my PB (and hopefully soon my MBP) but honestly Apple's support is no where near Dell's when it comes to business users - sending my laptop (and really my only work computer) to them for 2 weeks or even 2 days just does not cut it.
 
Shintocam said:
Uh, well not to act like a Dell supporter because I really am not, but we have had a dozen Dell Laptops here over the past 5 years (different users) and have only once had to have anything repaired. Add in our 40+ desktops and the number jumps to a staggering 2 people. Tech support was nothing short of amazing (honestly) and they COME TO YOU to fix it. The NEXT day! Seriously. I love my PB (and hopefully soon my MBP) but honestly Apple's support is no where near Dell's when it comes to business users - sending my laptop (and really my only work computer) to them for 2 weeks or even 2 days just does not cut it.
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Yes, they come to you .. if you want to pay for that option. AppleCare is still pretty damn decent. A lot of the time you can take your Mac to any number of service centers and have it repaired within a day or so. Does Dell do it a bit better? Maybe ... but they also have a lot of machines out there to worry about. Besides, in my experience, Apples rarely have hardware issues. The last time I had a problem was a failed Hard Drive ... on a Performa 638! Any software issues have been easily rectified over the phone.
 
Shintocam said:
Uh, well not to act like a Dell supporter because I really am not, but we have had a dozen Dell Laptops here over the past 5 years (different users) and have only once had to have anything repaired. Add in our 40+ desktops and the number jumps to a staggering 2 people. Tech support was nothing short of amazing (honestly) and they COME TO YOU to fix it. The NEXT day! Seriously. I love my PB (and hopefully soon my MBP) but honestly Apple's support is no where near Dell's when it comes to business users - sending my laptop (and really my only work computer) to them for 2 weeks or even 2 days just does not cut it.
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I heard that Dell Canada's Tech Support is awesome.
 
Maccus Aurelius said:
I once thought that, until Dell decided to give me the run around within the warranty period when my old inspiron was on the fritz, trying to convince me that it was a software issue that they can fix via remote access. Of course, just a couple of days after the warranty expired, it was determined that the HDD was the culprit, and of course Dell CS, knowing full well that my issue was occurring well within the warranty period, sent me a replacement HDD, but then tried to charge me for it. Took me quite a while to get that matter resolved. Apple, however, has been far kinder to me when my macbook was having hardware woes (RSD), and I had my problem resolved over the weekend, no fuss no muss. I'd take Applecare over whatever Dell has to offer anyday.
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It all depends on the level of warranty you buy. I learned this over the last 2 years of running Dell calls. Anyone who has gold technical support that I think adds something like $60-$70 to the cost will get you to North American technicians. Why does this matter? I've found that North American techs will pretty much do anything to get your system working again.

As for Apple Care vs. Dell. Sorry I don't buy it. When I was having issues with my MBP randomly waking up from sleep in my bag I took it in to the Mall of America Apple store. Its the biggest in MN. They basicly told me they couldn't do squat for me unless I could show that it was happening. It took three days of hanging around the Apple store near the genius bar. Finally the thing decided to wake up even after I reinstalled OS X, something they asked me to do. As far as I'm concerned from the tech standpoint both Dell and Apple are the same as long as you get North American techs for Dell. But from a repair standpoint..Dell blows Apple out of the water.
 
flopticalcube said:
The big difference is when Apple announces something, it is usually available straight away. This Dell "thing" doesn't even have a price yet.
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Going backwards with their announcements (and as far as my memory permits):

iTunes plus... available straight away?
iPhone... available straight away?
AppleTV ... available straight away?
MacPro... available straight away?
G5 PowerMacs... available straight away?
17" Powerbook... available straight away?
12" Powerbook... available straight away?
 
CrackedButter said:
Going backwards with their announcements (and as far as my memory permits):

iTunes plus... available straight away?
iPhone... available straight away?
AppleTV ... available straight away?
MacPro... available straight away?
G5 PowerMacs... available straight away?
17" Powerbook... available straight away?
12" Powerbook... available straight away?
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So they're now staying more in line with the rest of the PC market :D
 
~Shard~ said:
Yeah, just like the AppleTV and the iPhone! Oh, wait.... :p :cool:
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The recent stuff does seem to be a bit late. I did use the "usually" caveat, in my defence. :rolleyes:

The recent MacBook, The C2D MacBook, The CD MacBook
The C2D MacBook Pro, The CD MacBook Pro
The C2D iMac, The CD iMac
The Speed Bump Intel mini
The Intel mini
THe Octo-core Mac Pro

all recent, all released with availability dates or straight away.
 
This is when the hardware:software issue that Steve (Jobs) mentioned at D5 really keeps you from even considering this Dell.
 
localoid said:
Personally, lack of OS X is the deal killer.
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Werd. The Dell's specs are nice, but no OSX makes it useless for me, not to mention the case design SUCKS. Granted, you could Hackintosh one if you like, but I'd rather just buy one off the rack :D
 
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