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Well unless your flight has onboard Internet to connect to Battlenet and authenticate...
Not to mention the better and cheaper Torchlight 2 game runs just fine on an old HD3000 at 1920x1200 resolution, let alone a HD4000 which is 50% faster.
 
Only HD4000?!

If this thing only has a HD4000, I'll be highly disappointed :(

I'm working outside of my country and was hoping for this 13" rMBP to be my main work machine coupled to a 27" TB Apple display ... Replacing my very old MBP.

If so, will have to go another route ... probably a 15" rMBP .. But in this case, apple will loose me as a 27" customer ...

I still doubt this thing can drive a retina only with a HD4000, from what I've seen in the 15" rMBP ...
 
The Air uses a totally different chip.

The current MacBook Air models run the Ivy Bridge chipset (which includes the Intel HD Graphics 4000 IGP).

This same chipset and IGP would be used with the 13" rMBP since Haswell/HD 5000 is not shipping and I don't see Apple rolling back to Sandy Bridge.

The question remains whether or not Apple will add a discrete GPU in addition to the HD 4000 IGP.
 
The current MacBook Air models run the Ivy Bridge chipset (which includes the Intel HD Graphics 4000 IGP).

This same chipset and IGP would be used with the 13" rMBP since Haswell/HD 5000 is not shipping and I don't see Apple rolling back to Sandy Bridge.

The question remains whether or not Apple will add a discrete GPU in addition to the HD 4000 IGP.
Just to be clear, the IGP is on-die with the processor. It will probably just use whatever low wattage UM Intel 7 Series PCH is available.

A few hundred MHz is the only significant difference between the entry HD 4000 and one on the fastest quad core.
 
Just to be clear, the IGP is on-die with the processor. It will probably just use whatever low wattage UM Intel 7 Series PCH is available.

A few hundred MHz is the only significant difference between the entry HD 4000 and one on the fastest quad core.

That gap is going to get much bigger with Haswell. Intel's reporting 100% speed improvement from HD4000 to full-voltage haswell, whilst low voltage parts are going to make due with only a 30% improvement due to power limitations.

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So it's another computer with the battery glued in with industrial strength glue that ONLY Apple can change, well they'll charge you a fortune because they will just change the entire bottom case.

Why should the average forum poster here care? They seem to be upgrading annually. (like me lol)
 
I am probably one of the few that is OK with an integrated GPU. I have been using and abusing my BlackBook for 4+ years and it has been fine. I hope to do some 3D CAD, and I expect the HD4000 to be adequate for amateur-level SolidWorks thru Bootcamp (on an external, non-retina monitor). That being said, I WOULD pay a little extra to have one.

What I am NOT OK with is Apple charging me the same Retina premium that they charge for the 15" Retina. For those saying that there is no premium because it's spec'd up from the 15" cMBP... I say :p and BS to that - Apple charges $400 for the 256GB SSD upgrade and $900 for 512GB, when the market says more like $160 and $410 respectively (Crucial).

I'll probably be buying a 13" MBP within the next two weeks. I would really really like to buy a retina, but not if Apple charges a $500+ premium (over the $1500 version) for the retina design alone and no extra GPU. I can easily install my own SSD into the 13" cMBP for cheap, and it'll only get cheaper. And a 13" retina monitor is nice and all, but it's still only 13", not 15".
 
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Does anyone know if it's possible they'll do what they did with the mid 2010 13"? i.e. a seperate GPU but not totally discrete
 
Does anyone know if it's possible they'll do what they did with the mid 2010 13"? i.e. a seperate GPU but not totally discrete
No, Intel wants a monopoly on your logic boards leaving the motherboard manufacturers with little to differentiate their products.

AMD has their own quagmire of issues with their own products lines and company. nVidia gave up trying to get a DMI license and went to ARM to diversify.
 
No discrete GPU

Pass.

Better yet fire your VP of Hardware Engineering if you think a >$1500 laptop with integrated graphics is cool. I don't care how sharp the text is.
 
No, Intel wants a monopoly on your logic boards leaving the motherboard manufacturers with little to differentiate their products.

AMD has their own quagmire of issues with their own products lines and company. nVidia gave up trying to get a DMI license and went to ARM to diversify.

Yup a GT640M integrated into the chipset would be the perfect discrete setup for the rMBP 13, but NOOO, greedy Intel killed all 3rd party chipsets with the end of the core 2 duo's.
 
finally more rumours about macs.

13" rMBP rumour is gaining a lot of momentum , still no awesome capture of the finished product.

Double down in effect:confused:
 
"Not happening", "Steve would never", "Bad Photoshop job", "it would cannibalize sales" and "I hate Samsung". And on a final note, "double down on security".
 
Well, yeah. You are fine until you do something involving fancy 3D. The desktop and video playback easy.

Pretty much this. Think about the new iPad for a moment - does that screen lag with its A5X? Not really.

HD4000 is far more powerful than that, and 2560x1600 isn't that much higher resolution than the new iPad...
 
I would say Broadwell actually. Haswell seems very incremental to me. Broadwell is supposedly all new architecture.

Haswell is the new architecture. Broadwell will be a process-shrink of the Haswell architecture.

Sandy Bridge (tick), Ivy Bridge (tock), Haswell (tick), Broadwell (tock).

tick = brand new architecture
tock = same architecture, smaller process, incremental refinements
 
So how much is thing gonna be? It better be under $2k.

I'm guessing $1599 for a 13" rMBP with 256GB SSD and 8GB memory, with the base 2.5GHz i5 chip.

If you take the base 15" MBP, and add an SSD, the price comes to $100 more expensive than the base rMBP.

So, I did the same thing with the 13"-- upgraded the base model to 256GB SSD and subtracted $100.

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I still doubt this thing can drive a retina only with a HD4000, from what I've seen in the 15" rMBP ...

15" has 25% more pixels to push than the 13" retina display. So it'll run a bit better on the 13".

Even a lowly HD3000 can handle a 27" thunderbolt display which has 80% of the pixels of the 13" retina.
 
Uhhhh??

The Air uses a totally different chip. And then there's battery size.

Try again.

:rolleyes:

And what does the battery have to do with whether or not the HD4000 can drive a Retina Display? Also, the 13" MacBook Pro has a dual-core Ivy Bridge i5 or i7 with the HD4000. It lacks a discrete GPU. It isn't a "totally different chip" at all. The main difference is processor speed.

Try again. :rolleyes:
 
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